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  • #46
    Damn. I was hoping da Bears would pin their hopes and their salary cap on Fields. Now I can only hope they pick a QB overall #1 who turns out to be the next Ryan Leaf, and Fields goes on to a solid career in Atlanta.

    In my estimation, MVS will be lucky to land a minimum-wage deal somewhere. He drops more balls than an unpaid hooker.
    "The Devine era is actually worse than you remember if you go back and look at it."

    KYPack

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    • #47
      Originally posted by Fritz View Post
      Damn. I was hoping da Bears would pin their hopes and their salary cap on Fields. Now I can only hope they pick a QB overall #1 who turns out to be the next Ryan Leaf, and Fields goes on to a solid career in Atlanta.

      In my estimation, MVS will be lucky to land a minimum-wage deal somewhere. He drops more balls than an unpaid hooker.
      MVS will do better than minimum. He has speed few have to stretch the field. Packers missed him very much in the 2021 playoff game vs. 49ers. And he has a knack for coming through in big games. And he's never had more than 7 drops in a season. He had 3 last year.
      I can't run no more
      With that lawless crowd
      While the killers in high places
      Say their prayers out loud
      But they've summoned, they've summoned up
      A thundercloud
      They're going to hear from me - Leonard Cohen

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      • #48
        Since I have no statistics or evidence to back up my position - just my feelings - then I must revert to this:

        Ah, fuck that guy.
        "The Devine era is actually worse than you remember if you go back and look at it."

        KYPack

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        • #49
          Originally posted by Fritz View Post
          Since I have no statistics or evidence to back up my position - just my feelings - then I must revert to this:

          Ah, fuck that guy.
          My guess is the drops probably seem more numerous than they really are because when MVS does drop one, it usually would have been a big play. Most of his routes are run well downfield. Also, MVS was never very good at coming down with 50/50 balls, which some might regard as drops.
          I can't run no more
          With that lawless crowd
          While the killers in high places
          Say their prayers out loud
          But they've summoned, they've summoned up
          A thundercloud
          They're going to hear from me - Leonard Cohen

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          • #50
            Originally posted by Joemailman View Post
            MVS will do better than minimum. He has speed few have to stretch the field. Packers missed him very much in the 2021 playoff game vs. 49ers. And he has a knack for coming through in big games. And he's never had more than 7 drops in a season. He had 3 last year.
            3 on 21 receptions...

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            • #51
              Jason B. Hirschhorn
              @by_JBH

              The Broncos have announced that they will release quarterback Russell Wilson at the start of the new league year.

              Andrew Brandt
              @AndrewBrandt

              Broncos officially releasing Russell Wilson.
              They were as all-in on him, between trade assets given up and contract, as any team was all-in on any player.
              Now they're all-out.
              $39M left over in cash.
              $85M left over in Cap.
              Will go down as one of worst contracts in NFL history.
              Last edited by Joemailman; 03-04-2024, 03:38 PM.
              I can't run no more
              With that lawless crowd
              While the killers in high places
              Say their prayers out loud
              But they've summoned, they've summoned up
              A thundercloud
              They're going to hear from me - Leonard Cohen

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              • #52
                Originally posted by Joemailman View Post
                Jason B. Hirschhorn
                @by_JBH

                The Broncos have announced that they will release quarterback Russell Wilson at the start of the new league year.

                Andrew Brandt
                @AndrewBrandt

                Broncos officially releasing Russell Wilson.
                They were as all-in on him, between trade assets given up and contract, as any team was all-in on any player.
                Now they're all-out.
                $39M left over in cash.
                $85M left over in Cap.
                Will go down as one of worst contracts in NFL history.
                Yeah, moving on from Wilson was being telegraphed a few weeks back, but the numbers are pretty staggering.
                I'd counter by saying the Bakhtiari contract is one of the worst in history as well. No fault of Bakhtiari, the guy wants to play, but 13 games in 3 seasons since signing a $92M contract is pretty bad.

                Back to Russell - some QB needy team will kick the tires on him, but I think his superstar days are long past. Denver's holding a big bag of excrement on their cap. Seahawks looking smart there.

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                • #53
                  Clueless fans who think they’re smarter than a burger flipper with a worthless bachelor’s in accounting, as well as having passed the fucking Wisconsin CPAs, see $85M in “dead money” and they think, cap hell!

                  There ain’t any fuck as a cap hell anymore. Asses of Denver (not to be confused with the Asses of Indianapolis), don’t owe Wilson 85M. They’re gonna spread the hit over two years. Wilson’s cap hit this year will be 35.4M, minus chump change from another team - the 35.4M figure would be exactly the same figure if Wilson was still an Ass. 49.6M next year when the cap’s gonna inflate even more. Cap hell, my ass!
                  Last edited by Guest; 03-05-2024, 01:43 AM. Reason: Flipping burgers.

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                  • #54
                    Originally posted by Anti-Polar Bear View Post
                    Clueless fans who think they’re smarter than a burger flipper with a worthless bachelor’s in accounting, as well as having passed the fucking Wisconsin CPAs, see $85M in “dead money” and they think, cap hell!

                    There ain’t any fuck as a cap hell anymore. Asses of Denver (not to be confused with the Asses of Indianapolis), don’t owe Wilson 85M. They’re gonna spread the hit over two years. Wilson’s cap hit this year will be 35.4M, minus chump change from another team - the 35.4M figure would be exactly the same figure if Wilson was still an Ass. 49.6M next year when the cap’s gonna inflate even more. Cap hell, my ass!
                    Your posts indicate the type of guy who's up to his neck in credit card debt, but because the minimum payment is "only" $350 a month, thinks it's just fine because he can probably come up with $350 each month, so it's not so bad.
                    "The Devine era is actually worse than you remember if you go back and look at it."

                    KYPack

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                    • #55
                      Originally posted by Fritz View Post
                      Your posts indicate the type of guy who's up to his neck in credit card debt, but because the minimum payment is "only" $350 a month, thinks it's just fine because he can probably come up with $350 each month, so it's not so bad.
                      Bingo!

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                      • #56
                        Originally posted by Fritz View Post
                        Your posts indicate the type of guy who's up to his neck in credit card debt, but because the minimum payment is "only" $350 a month, thinks it's just fine because he can probably come up with $350 each month, so it's not so bad.
                        Terrible analogy. Unlike credit card instruments, “dead money” does not incur interest and it is neither a debt nor a cash flow. Dead money is merely an accounting item that denotes the premature termination of a contract with respect to the guaranteed portion of said contract.

                        Absence of contract restructuring, Wilson’s cap hits for the next two seasons, assuming he remained an Ass, would have been 35.4M and 55.4M, respectively. The Asses will actually receive cap relief next season for cutting Wilson this year. Not to mention, the recent termination allows the Waltons, owners of the Asses, to save money (and live better) - Wilson is owe 30-something frogskins this year, but the Waltons save $37M next year!

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                        • #57
                          Originally posted by Anti-Polar Bear View Post
                          Terrible analogy. Unlike credit card instruments, “dead money” does not incur interest and it is neither a debt nor a cash flow. Dead money is merely an accounting item that denotes the premature termination of a contract with respect to the guaranteed portion of said contract.

                          Absence of contract restructuring, Wilson’s cap hits for the next two seasons, assuming he remained an Ass, would have been 35.4M and 55.4M, respectively. The Asses will actually receive cap relief next season for cutting Wilson this year. Not to mention, the recent termination allows the Waltons, owners of the Asses, to save money (and live better) - Wilson is owe 30-something frogskins this year, but the Waltons save $37M next year!
                          Thank you for confirming my post.
                          "The Devine era is actually worse than you remember if you go back and look at it."

                          KYPack

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                          • #58
                            Originally posted by Anti-Polar Bear View Post
                            Terrible analogy. Unlike credit card instruments, “dead money” does not incur interest and it is neither a debt nor a cash flow. Dead money is merely an accounting item that denotes the premature termination of a contract with respect to the guaranteed portion of said contract.

                            Absence of contract restructuring, Wilson’s cap hits for the next two seasons, assuming he remained an Ass, would have been 35.4M and 55.4M, respectively. The Asses will actually receive cap relief next season for cutting Wilson this year. Not to mention, the recent termination allows the Waltons, owners of the Asses, to save money (and live better) - Wilson is owe 30-something frogskins this year, but the Waltons save $37M next year!
                            And this is a terrible understanding, too. Yes, the Waltons will save $37M in not having to pay next year's salaray, but that does NOT mean prior payments in bonuses and this year's $39M "frogskins" doesn't impact their overall salary cap availability. It most DEFINITELY impacts what other free agent transactions they will be able to do.

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                            • #59
                              Which players received the franchise tag?
                              Tee Higgins, Cincinnati Bengals WR
                              L'Jarius Sneed, Kansas City Chiefs CB
                              Brian Burns, Carolina Panthers EDGE
                              Justin Madubuike, Baltimore Ravens DT
                              Antoine Winfield, Tampa Bay Buccaneers S
                              Josh Allen, Jacksonville Jaguars EDGE
                              Jaylon Johnson, Chicago Bears CB
                              Michael Pittman, Indianapolis Colts WR

                              Which players received the transition tag?
                              Kyle Dugger, New England Patriots S
                              I believe in God, family, Baylor University, and the Green Bay Packers.

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                              • #60
                                Originally posted by SudsMcBucky View Post
                                And this is a terrible understanding, too. Yes, the Waltons will save $37M in not having to pay next year's salaray, but that does NOT mean prior payments in bonuses and this year's $39M "frogskins" doesn't impact their overall salary cap availability. It most DEFINITELY impacts what other free agent transactions they will be able to do.
                                Have you passed the CPAs? If not, then - check out this awesome analogy - you’re basically telling a brain surgeon that she ain’t know shit about brain surgery. Leave the cap to experts such as myself.

                                Sure, there are opportunity costs. But Wilson’s cap hit is 35.4M this year whether or not he’s on the team. It ain’t that difficult to cook the cap if the Asses need that 35.4 so baldy to sign, say, Mike Evens.

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