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It's possible we'll be doing the same, pinning our hope to some extent on Jacobs' health. He's just more likely to stay healthy - hopefully. I wanted a fairly equal RB in the 2nd or 3rd round to rotate with Jones. Now I want the same thing to rotate with Jacobs. Braelon Allen would be my choice, but I suppose there are a few others who would fit the bill too.What could be more GOOD and NORMAL and AMERICAN than Packer Football?
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Originally posted by texaspackerbacker View PostIt's possible we'll be doing the same, pinning our hope to some extent on Jacobs' health. He's just more likely to stay healthy - hopefully. I wanted a fairly equal RB in the 2nd or 3rd round to rotate with Jones. Now I want the same thing to rotate with Jacobs. Braelon Allen would be my choice, but I suppose there are a few others who would fit the bill too.
You used to have Jones Back !
Benedict TexasPackerBacker. Disappointed in you
TERD Buckley over Troy Vincent, Robert Ferguson over Chris Chambers, Kevn King instead of TJ Watt, and now, RICH GANNON, over JIMMY JIMMY JIMMY LEONARD. Thank you FLOWER
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If he was still here, I still would. It sounds like he dug in his heels and refused to take a pay cut which would have amounted to about the same he is getting from the enemy, so fuck him, he chose to leave and chose to sign with the enemy. Furthermore, it seems like a strong chance the new guy will be as good or better for quite a few more years. So probably, good signing and net good all the way around.What could be more GOOD and NORMAL and AMERICAN than Packer Football?
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No...clearly 32 GMs do not. Basically most everyone understands that Jacobs is the better player. AJO was a fan favorite and one of my personal faves, but he isn't a bell cow. Jacobs is.Originally posted by call_me_ishmael View PostStats often don't tell the whole story. I believe AJO is the superior player and so does everyone else.The only time success comes before work is in the dictionary -- Vince Lombardi
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Let me put it this way. Would MiLF have given Jacobs carries 12-20 in the 3rd quarter of the 49ers game? If the answer is yes, than I want Jacobs. However if I had been MiLF Jones would have gotten the ball until he begged me to come out of the game.The only time success comes before work is in the dictionary -- Vince Lombardi
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Dillion split carries about 50-50 the past several years. Forgetting injury risk, Jones presents a higher risk that they don't find a solid backup because he requires someone to split the workload. From that angle, perhaps they figured they needed to bring another veteran running back if Jones signed with the Packers and factored that into the amount of his offer.
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Originally posted by texaspackerbacker View PostIf he was still here, I still would. It sounds like he dug in his heels and refused to take a pay cut which would have amounted to about the same he is getting from the enemy, so fuck him, he chose to leave and chose to sign with the enemy. Furthermore, it seems like a strong chance the new guy will be as good or better for quite a few more years. So probably, good signing and net good all the way around.
Dug in his heels? First off, he had a contract. Secondly, he was unwilling to take a slightly over 50% hair cut off his base (after he took a pay reduction last year). Gutebag asking him to go from a base of roughly 11MIL to 5.5 MIL is pretty out there. Can hardly blame him for saying no to that.TERD Buckley over Troy Vincent, Robert Ferguson over Chris Chambers, Kevn King instead of TJ Watt, and now, RICH GANNON, over JIMMY JIMMY JIMMY LEONARD. Thank you FLOWER
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Yes, you stated the facts correctly. The question is, was Gutekunst justified in asking him to take the cut, and should Jones have been open to doing so? I'd say yes based on age and injury status. A lot of big contracts are intended from the start to either be restructured or decreased or just terminated when the big money years come around.Originally posted by Bretsky View PostDug in his heels? First off, he had a contract. Secondly, he was unwilling to take a slightly over 50% hair cut off his base (after he took a pay reduction last year). Gutebag asking him to go from a base of roughly 11MIL to 5.5 MIL is pretty out there. Can hardly blame him for saying no to that.What could be more GOOD and NORMAL and AMERICAN than Packer Football?
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Jones has cost me more leagues than any back I can think of. I'm not sure he ever won me one.Originally posted by MadtownPacker View PostI think I would feel the same. I didn’t like always pinning hopes on Jones’ health. As a FF guy did you trust him in there for you every week?The only time success comes before work is in the dictionary -- Vince Lombardi
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We don't know for sure what was asked or offered, just rumors. The only thing we know is that if Jones was willing to take the $7 million he signed for, most of us would have liked to keep him.Originally posted by Bretsky View PostDug in his heels? First off, he had a contract. Secondly, he was unwilling to take a slightly over 50% hair cut off his base (after he took a pay reduction last year). Gutebag asking him to go from a base of roughly 11MIL to 5.5 MIL is pretty out there. Can hardly blame him for saying no to that.The only time success comes before work is in the dictionary -- Vince Lombardi
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One of your better posts. You should keep them all simple like this. Gutes always has a right to ASK a player to take a cut. A player under contract always has a right to say no. End of story.Originally posted by texaspackerbacker View PostYes, you stated the facts correctly. The question is, was Gutekunst justified in asking him to take the cut, and should Jones have been open to doing so? I'd say yes based on age and injury status. A lot of big contracts are intended from the start to either be restructured or decreased or just terminated when the big money years come around.The only time success comes before work is in the dictionary -- Vince Lombardi
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We all probably have these fantasy narratives in our heads. Mine was that they'd restructure Jones, he'd take a bit of a pay cut, and they'd draft a couple of promising understudies in April. Then Aaron Yoda Jones teaches the younguns how to play football like a professional, and how to act like a professional. Meanwhile, Jones stays surprisingly healthy, and with The Flower parsing his carries carefully, he has a great year and carries the team to a surprising SB win next year while the youngsters show great promise.
Then, just before the SB, Drew Barrymore calls me up, because Mad contacted her and told her about my crush, and she asks me if I want to fly out to Cali to watch the SB with her. We have wild sex before the game, watch the Packers win the SB, which inspires Drew to say to me "Do whatever you want?" and -
Okay, I'll stop there.
I just hope Jacobs is damn good."The Devine era is actually worse than you remember if you go back and look at it."
KYPack
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