PREDICT JORDAN LOVE'S NEXT CONTRACT

[MadScientist]

Saying a negotiation like this is going to be tough is like saying the sky is blue. The only ways it wouldn't be tough is if they both have the same numbers and length in mind (they don't), or if the Packers just give Love whatever he wants (they won't, at least without a fight). Yes the Packers should be able to work any one contract under the cap, but it will impact other decisions down the road.

[texaspackerbacker]

To a very limited extent, you are right, but "tough negotiations" are generally the result of either a notoriously troublesome player or a dissatisfied player who really doesn't want to be on a team unless he can hold them up for way too much money? Do either of those seriously sound like Love? They sure don't to me. Reading crap from know-nothing media assholes about what Love thinks is just a matter of non-Packer people trying to stir up trouble. That has happened a ton of times before.

[Teamcheez1]

Love has played one season in the NFL.
He had a good stretch over the last 9 games.
IMO, this hasn’t earned him a contract that makes him at, or close to, the highest paid QB in the league.

Where do you rank him in regards to the other QB’s in the league?
Is he asking for top 5 money, because he’s not there yet.

[Joemailman]

Love has played one season in the NFL.
He had a good stretch over the last 9 games.
IMO, this hasn’t earned him a contract that makes him at, or close to, the highest paid QB in the league.

Where do you rank him in regards to the other QB’s in the league?
Is he asking for top 5 money, because he’s not there yet.

Rodgers signed a contract extension after playing 7 games of the 2008 season.

Green Bay - Flush with almost a $20 million surplus beneath the National Football League salary cap, the Green Bay Packers used up a sizable chunk of it Friday by signing quarterback Aaron Rodgers to a five-year extension through the 2014 season.

Citing a league source, the NFL Network reported that the contract was worth $65 million over six years, with $20 million guaranteed.

"It's certainly a market deal compared to other franchise quarterbacks," said David Dunn, Rodgers' agent for the last few months. "The Packers came at us aggressively for this to be a deal that is commensurate with his peers in the league. Because Aaron likes it so much there, it became an easy decision for him."

Club negotiator Russ Ball first contacted Dunn early in the bye week about 12 days ago. Agreement was reached Friday morning and Rodgers signed it after practice.

"It's surreal and it's humbling," Rodgers said, referring to his sudden change in wealth. "I mean, I'm in shock. I did not expect this at all."

https://www.acmepackingcompany.com/2...gers-new-contr

"Now that Aaron Rodgers‘ contract numbers have come in — a five-year extension that gives him six more years for $65 million, including $40.5 million in first three years of the contract — they can be compared.

And Rodgers’ contract now makes him, remarkably, the fourth highest paid quarterback in the game, behind only Peyton Manning, Carson Palmer and Ben Roethlisberger."

[pittstang5]

The longer the Packers wait, the more money Love is gonna get. And when he gets paid, we'll all be surprised by what he gets until the next QB gets more. It is what it will be. Player salaries are always going up.

[Joemailman]

Some Packer fans will get sticker shock when Love gets his extension, and within a couple of years it will look like a bargain.

[Bretsky]

Some Packer fans will get sticker shock when Love gets his extension, and within a couple of years it will look like a bargain.

You really think in 3 years 60MIL per year will be a bargain ?

What did Mahommes and Josh Allen sign for again ?

Has Jordan Love shown himself to be worth more that Joe Burrow or Lamar Jackson based on his accomplishments ?

I could see this one taking a while to get down

[bobblehead]

IF we EXTEND Love now and give him a sideloaded signing bonus it's reasonable to get some type of discount.

Jordan Love hasn't hit the motherf@ck of all signing bonuses yet.

Give him a huge signing bonus, and get a slight slight discount on the annual. Doesn't that sound reasonable? Where is Mahommes now annually ? Josh Allen ?

I don't wanna give the dude 60MIL after seeing him look crappy for half the year and really dam good the second half. I have faith he's going to be really dam good but I don't know if he's going to be a super star yet

Scheftner reported GB is very far apart with Love. Gute announced a couple months ago that we should not expect to get this deal done that soon. IT's reasonable to think this might be a tough negotiation.

We have a lot of very talented guys to sign to contract in the next few years. Saving money hear could be the difference in signing, or losing a #2 WR

Mostly this. Why give Love an absolute max deal (which is what he wants and probably won't settle for less). Make him prove it wasn't a fluke. Show me the downside other than him being a bit pissy about it. If he goes out and wins the MVP guess what....he is going to get the deal he is asking for right now. It might be "more" by then, but so will the cap be. Only the guys in serious MVP conversation each year deserve that stupid deal as they are the only guys who can carry a team. Love showed he can do that for 8-10 games. I want to see it after the league has a year of tape on him.

So let me propose a poll. Is it more likely that Love's value will be higher or lower after this season. Since he is coming off an epic run with 18-1 TD-INT ratio and destroying the cowboys in the playoffs I doubt he can possibly be BETTER than he was. And lets be honest. He wants Burrow Money. He isn't asking for 48M while GB is offering 40M. He is asking for 60. And they should tell him "do it for a full season and playoffs and you can have it". Because odds are heavy that he can't do that again....really heavy since very few ever have. If he does....pay him then.

[bobblehead]

The longer the Packers wait, the more money Love is gonna get. And when he gets paid, we'll all be surprised by what he gets until the next QB gets more. It is what it will be. Player salaries are always going up.

Disagree. Right now I promise Love's agent wants Burrow money. He wants the biggest deal ever for a QB because that is what every deal is. Even Goff, who failed right after his last big deal got a monster deal.
Look at this list:

Joe Burrow
Bengals
28 $275,000,000 $55,000,000 $219,010,000 $146,510,000 2030 Void
Jared Goff
Lions
30 $212,000,000 $53,000,000 $170,611,832 $113,611,832 2029 Void
Justin Herbert
Chargers
26 $262,500,000 $52,500,000 $193,738,375 $133,738,375 2030 UFA
Lamar Jackson
Ravens
27 $260,000,000 $52,000,000 $185,000,000 $135,000,000 2028 Void
Jalen Hurts
Eagles
26 $255,000,000 $51,000,000 $179,304,000 $110,000,000 2029 Void
Kyler Murray
Cardinals
27 $230,500,000 $46,100,000 $160,000,000 $103,300,000 2029 UFA
Deshaun Watson
Browns
29 $230,000,000 $46,000,000 $230,000,000 $230,000,000 2027 Void
Kirk Cousins
Falcons
36 $180,000,000 $45,000,000 $100,000,000 $90,000,000 2028 UFA
Patrick Mahomes
Chiefs
29 $450,000,000 $45,000,000 $141,000,000 $63,081,905 2032 Void


Sorry for formatting. Almost every one of those guys became the biggest deal ever when he signed. When Love signs it will be the largest contract in history. Might as well make sure he is worth it first.

[Bretsky]

Disagree. Right now I promise Love's agent wants Burrow money. He wants the biggest deal ever for a QB because that is what every deal is. Even Goff, who failed right after his last big deal got a monster deal.
Look at this list:

Joe Burrow
Bengals
28 $275,000,000 $55,000,000 $219,010,000 $146,510,000 2030 Void
Jared Goff
Lions
30 $212,000,000 $53,000,000 $170,611,832 $113,611,832 2029 Void
Justin Herbert
Chargers
26 $262,500,000 $52,500,000 $193,738,375 $133,738,375 2030 UFA
Lamar Jackson
Ravens
27 $260,000,000 $52,000,000 $185,000,000 $135,000,000 2028 Void
Jalen Hurts
Eagles
26 $255,000,000 $51,000,000 $179,304,000 $110,000,000 2029 Void
Kyler Murray
Cardinals
27 $230,500,000 $46,100,000 $160,000,000 $103,300,000 2029 UFA
Deshaun Watson
Browns
29 $230,000,000 $46,000,000 $230,000,000 $230,000,000 2027 Void
Kirk Cousins
Falcons
36 $180,000,000 $45,000,000 $100,000,000 $90,000,000 2028 UFA
Patrick Mahomes
Chiefs
29 $450,000,000 $45,000,000 $141,000,000 $63,081,905 2032 Void


Sorry for formatting. Almost every one of those guys became the biggest deal ever when he signed. When Love signs it will be the largest contract in history. Might as well make sure he is worth it first.

AGREE

Jordan Love does not deserve to be the highest paid QB in the NFL yet

But does every QB need to reset the market ? That is what Gary Ellerson the media head says. He said GB should just give him what he wants and it'll be cheap in 3 years To me that is stupid talk. Pay him based on performance and at his point he needs more time to excel to get the money he's asking for.

AND if we're giving him an extension, his first lifechanging deal with F'ck you type money and a signing bonus, it's reasonable for him to take less. He'll get his first signing bonus of over 150,000 milllion dollars.

IS he willing to gamble on himself and risk a major Nick Collins like injury next year (I know it rarely happens but it can) and never get that.

It's OK for Green Bay to "NOT" extend him if he's asking for the world and let him play out next year and see how good he is after coaches make adjustments on him.

I'll bring up TWO examples on how star players treated things when they wanted to stay in GB and were going into their contract year.

NICK COLLINS: he was holding out and it was a DAM good thing he did. He got paid, and soon after he injured his neck and it ended his career. He WAY overplayed his past contract. He was a great guy. He doesn't hold out, he doesn't get his lifechanging deal and he's worse off today.

DEVANTED ADAMS did the opposite of Nick Collins, "And" guys lke TJ Watt. He wanted to stay in GB but just kept playing. Thankfully he never got hurt, but he felt chapped with GB made no effort til after his contract expired. He got his CHING; so financially it worked out for him.
BUT lots of players are not doing what Adams did and just plying it out.

So JORDAN LOVE, most likely his agent is playing some poker. He's trying to ge the best of both world. Get the extension now, maximize what is best for JL, which is fine. But I don't want Gutebag to give in. He is under contract this year for cheap money, and theoretically GB could franchise him two years in a row. That's where we have some power.

So the reasonable things to do it sign him for less money, and guarantee more than you want.

And put yourself in a better position to resign Elgin Jenkins, Zach Tom, and hopefully 3 of the 4 top WR's we have down the road

[bobblehead]

Love's agent would never accept this, but this is what I would offer if I were GB. I would offer a one year extension for $40M fully guaranteed. Thats the 2025 season. I'd give him the Joe Flacco promise. You play 2024 in a way that justifies that 40M and we will give you the biggest deal ever as soon as we are allowed in the 2026 offseason. Love is set for life regardless of what happens. Packers are protected if he pulls a Wentz, Goff, Flacco, Murry, Watson or pick your guy who got paid and then didn't live up to it.

If he runs back a top 5 type season in 2024 here you give him the Burrow deal the first day the league rules allow. Plus you got the added bonus of one more year at a "discount" of $40M.

When his agent says "hell no" you let him play on his deal. Then you tag him if he balls out. Then you extend him with the biggest deal in history. Same result for the packers either way, but Love doesn't get "set for life" if he suffers a career ender during this next year.

[RashanGary]

Love was the best QB in the NFL the second half of the season. Just pay him. Make him top 3. 5 years.

[sharpe1027]

The problem with a one year extension is you get a big hit soon. Most of the contracts have smaller hits early and then increase over time.

[Patler]

Love's agent would never accept this, but this is what I would offer if I were GB. I would offer a one year extension for $40M fully guaranteed. Thats the 2025 season. I'd give him the Joe Flacco promise. You play 2024 in a way that justifies that 40M and we will give you the biggest deal ever as soon as we are allowed in the 2026 offseason. Love is set for life regardless of what happens. Packers are protected if he pulls a Wentz, Goff, Flacco, Murry, Watson or pick your guy who got paid and then didn't live up to it.

That guarantee isn't worth much. Absent his untimely demise or incarceration, under what circumstance would he not be on the team in 2025? It would take more than one bad season for them to give up on their investment after his overall performance last year.

[bobblehead]

Love was the best QB in the NFL the second half of the season. Just pay him. Make him top 3. 5 years.

Carson Wentz was the best QB in the NFL for about an 11 game stretch his first year. Justin Herbert walked on water just 18 months ago. Jared Goff blew chunks bad enough to be traded. DeShaun Watson was "michael jordan of football".

Forgive me if I'd like to see a little more before locking him up for a couple hundred million. He threw a LOT of bad across the field passes that worked during that stretch. Then he threw one against a good D like SF.