PREDICT JORDAN LOVE'S NEXT CONTRACT

[MadtownPacker]

What are you saying Nah to? That his confidence is high or how he is excited about everything because life is a dream right now?

This is Lombardi Ave.

[Fritz]

What are you saying Nah to? That his confidence is high or how he is excited about everything because life is a dream right now?

This is Lombardi Ave.

You’re trying to attribute his excitement to factors other than the looming contract. I’m saying his smiles were about the possibility that his contract is j-u-s-t about done.

[run pMc]

Shareholders meeting is first day of training camp, wouldn't be shocked if the deal is done right around that time so Murphy can announce it.

Even meh starting QBs get paid a LOT of money - Baker Mayfield, Daniel Jones, etc. You need a QB to win, I wonder if there's some pendulum in swing or if this is just an ever increasing hill climb. Unless they change the passing game rules, I think it's the latter. At some point QB contracts are going to be very tough for teams to manage... a "stars and scrubs" situation.

As it is, paying Jordan $55M a year is easily doable if you have a lot of other cheap contracts and don't overcook your cap.

[texaspackerbacker]

Good Post, run pMc. I gave my projection on the first page of this thread and haven't posted about it since then. Yes, $55 million a year is very doable, and with the great current cap situation, the Packers wouldn't even need to overcook things.

[sharpe1027]

The biggest problem isn't paying Love $55M per year to play QB for the Packers. It's paying him $40M+ per year if he's not playing for the Packers, either through injury or sucking.

Not that they have much of a choice. You still do the deal and hope you got it right

[bobblehead]

I heard the deal is already done, but the delay is because the Packers can't find enough dump trucks to rent for the trip from Lambeau to Love's house.

[MadtownPacker]

You’re trying to attribute his excitement to factors other than the looming contract. I’m saying his smiles were about the possibility that his contract is j-u-s-t about done.

No more than you are attributing them to his contract.

It’s hard for you people to understand since you tend to be … less emotional. In my world you celebrate all successes big or small (accordingly). Shit, you see what we do for a kids bday party .

I once knew how it felt for everything to be coming up roses and yeah I did smile a lot then. It was a wonderful time that I will look back on always. But considering the stuff that happened when he was a teen, today will likely be a somber one.

[MadtownPacker]

Shareholders meeting is first day of training camp, wouldn't be shocked if the deal is done right around that time so Murphy can announce it.

Even meh starting QBs get paid a LOT of money - Baker Mayfield, Daniel Jones, etc. You need a QB to win, I wonder if there's some pendulum in swing or if this is just an ever increasing hill climb. Unless they change the passing game rules, I think it's the latter. At some point QB contracts are going to be very tough for teams to manage... a "stars and scrubs" situation.

As it is, paying Jordan $55M a year is easily doable if you have a lot of other cheap contracts and don't overcook your cap.

Thats the spirit!! If Pack don’t pay Love they are going to have to pay someone else. Why would anyone even consider not locking him down for bit.

[Fritz]

The biggest problem isn't paying Love $55M per year to play QB for the Packers. It's paying him $40M+ per year if he's not playing for the Packers, either through injury or sucking.

Not that they have much of a choice. You still do the deal and hope you got it right

That may be the biggest problem, but the other problem is that, like many teams paying big $$$ to a QB, you really do end up in a "star and scrubs" situation, or at least a "star and newbies." Right now it's all cool because Guter has drafted well the last couple drafts, maybe a few if this year's works out, so you have all these seemingly talented guys on the upswing and on cheap contracts. Once you give your QB such a large hunk of the salary cap, then you have to keep drafting great, over and over, so you have a new set of talented, good players around that QB because you can't afford to pay anyone else. So it's all good but only IF Gute-head can constantly draft well, every year, because once the contracts for the receivers start coming up, and the tight ends Musgrave and Kraft, and the young offensive linemen like Zach Tom, you won't be able to keep many of those guys at all.

[texaspackerbacker]

That, of course, is why the cap keeps going up and up and up, and by the time you reach the 4th and 5th years of contracts, what seemed outlandish doesn't seem like that much - unless, of course, the guy flops or gets hurt too much. Everybody faces that situation, and the ones doing what it takes to keep great QBs generally come out ahead.

[MadScientist]

That, of course, is why the cap keeps going up and up and up, and by the time you reach the 4th and 5th years of contracts, what seemed outlandish doesn't seem like that much - unless, of course, the guy flops or gets hurt too much. Everybody faces that situation, and the ones doing what it takes to keep great QBs generally come out ahead.

But by the time the final years are reached, there's a need to extend the top QB's again, so the affordable range is rarely reached. The other problem is that teams keep paying average to above average QB's top of the market prices (Lawrence, Geoff, etc.) so that contracts for actual top QB's are pushed even higher.

[bobblehead]

In the past the Pack would be in a decent position. With the cap issues clearing up, and a lot of young guys on first contracts they could front load a Love contract to hit big in 2025 and 2026 while we have cap space then have smaller years after. The problem in the NFL with the way things are set up goes like this. Love (Antonio Brown) plays the front loaded years, gets to 2026 and decides its disrespectful for him to only have a base salary of $20 million so he holds out for a new deal. Its impossible for a team to front load a contract now without the risk of a player banking the fat years then retiring or holding out.

What they need to do is play some of the games that give bonuses that won't be met that count against the cap, but then are rebated for future years. The NFL should build in some sort of team chosen amortization where we could count 50% of the signing bonus to THIS years salary so the accounting matched up with reality more....or it wouldn't match up because the base on the first 3 years is small, but then on the backend when the base is 50 million you wouldn't have to match 20% of the bonus to that season.

[texaspackerbacker]

But by the time the final years are reached, there's a need to extend the top QB's again, so the affordable range is rarely reached. The other problem is that teams keep paying average to above average QB's top of the market prices (Lawrence, Geoff, etc.) so that contracts for actual top QB's are pushed even higher.

True - and I say again, that's why the cap keeps going up and up and up and up. If a QB proves to be not worth it, you dump him - like Cousins for example. If he is worth it, you find a way to defeat/manipulate/work with the cap to keep a good enough supporting cast. Several of these recent big contract QBs really seem to be mistakes by their teams - not because the concept is bad, but because they guy they chose to pay seems to be a good bet to not be worth it.

[Joemailman]

It at least appears there won't be a $60 million QB on the books before the Packers work out an agreement with Love.


It appears that the Cowboys, who are the only team set to spend less cash on their roster than the 2024 Packers as it stands today, are going to let Prescott play out the season, which is risky considering his no-tag and no-trade clauses. The Dolphins, though, have had contract talks with Tagovailoa, even if they seem to be leading to a road to nowhere.

ESPN’s Jeff Darlington reported on Tuesday that the Dolphins “are not offering the contract that is market value,” adding, “Based on my conversations, they are not in the Jared Goff and Trevor Lawrence ballpark.” Those two contracts are significant, as Goff brought in $53 million per year on his extension this offseason while Lawrence hit Joe Burrow’s $55 million per season number, which ties them as the highest-paid players in the history of the sport.

So if there were worries that the Packers needed to ink Love before Prescott or Tagovailoa reach extensions with their respective teams, it doesn’t seem like there’s much of a race going on. Green Bay seems the closest to an extension with their quarterback. The team has stated previously that they’re hoping to get a deal done with Love before the start of training camp late in July.

[Bretsky]

REAL QUESTION; Did Gutebag make a huge error not just jumping on the extension early May before these other deals hit.

Guessing a 4 year at 205 could have been nailed down as the first one