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  • Coaches On The Hot Seat

    Robert Saleh of the Jets already incinerated.

    Mike McCarthy - Dallas: Cowboys 3-3 after losing 47-9 to Detroit at home. McCarthy is in the last year of his contract. In 2010 Jerry Jones fired Wade Phillips during the season following a 45-7 loss to McCarthy's Packers.

    Doug Pederson - Jaguars. Jaguars are 1-5. Pederson in his 4th year, has made the playoffs once. Has a highly paid, underachieving QB. Since winning SB with Eagles in 2017, Pederson is 41-47-1.

    Dennis Allen - New Orleans Saints - 2-4 after todays loss. In his 3rd season. Has not made playoffs despite being in NFL's weakest division. 18-22 overall.

    Kevin Stefanski - Cleveland. 1-5 so far this year. In his 5th year, has made playoffs twice, without a playoff win. Stuck with a bad, overpaid QB, but team has been a major disappointment this year.

    Brian Daboll - NY Giants - Currently 2-3. 17-21-1 in 2+ years. Since Tom Coughlin retired, Giants have not stuck with coaches very long.
    I can't run no more
    With that lawless crowd
    While the killers in high places
    Say their prayers out loud
    But they've summoned, they've summoned up
    A thundercloud
    They're going to hear from me - Leonard Cohen

  • #2
    Agree on these.

    I think Pederson could be next. He loses to NE next week, he might not make it back from London with the team.

    McCarthy will get more rope, that division needs to sort out a bit. They are still in striking distance of WAS and PHI. If they fade in November and they look destined to miss the playoffs he's gone.

    Stefanski might be trying to get himself fired to get out of coaching Watson. That team looks like they hate their QB. He was good before the shoulder surgery, maybe he's washed now. That's going to go down as one of the all time worsts - 3 R1 picks and a fully guaranteed quarter of a billion dollar contract. They actually have cap space to eat it, but won't unless the fans revolt. Ownership is going to force the team to play him, so who knows. Stefanski is (usually) a pretty smart offensive guy, he'll land on his feet.

    Daboll is another one - smart offensive guy saddled with a meh at QB. Their OL is improved this year at the expense of losing Saquon and McKinney (thanks guys!). I think he has some rope because only the delusional really expect them to make a lot of noise, but canning him would not shock me.

    I'll throw a very unlikely name out there - if they crap the bed, watch out Sean McDermott. I don't think he's all that and a bag of chips as a coach and that roster has been SB level talented for years.

    I'd also throw Antonio Pierce on the list. The Raiders are a bad team.

    AZ's Jonathon Gannon was feeling the heat before beating SF, he could start feeling it again.

    Sirianni's seat was warming up too, but I think he'll be ok unless they implode like last year.

    If Tepper fires the CAR coach he'll be paying something like 3-4 head coaches at the same time.

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    • #3
      So, about 1/3 of the HCs are in danger of being fired? Sounds about right!

      About 1/3 make the playoffs, and the remaining are moving towards the playoffs or being fired next year.

      Then, in a couple of years the fired ones are recycled to another team.
      Last edited by Patler; 10-14-2024, 03:26 PM.

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      • #4
        Originally posted by run pMc View Post
        Agree on these.

        I think Pederson could be next. He loses to NE next week, he might not make it back from London with the team.

        McCarthy will get more rope, that division needs to sort out a bit. They are still in striking distance of WAS and PHI. If they fade in November and they look destined to miss the playoffs he's gone.

        Stefanski might be trying to get himself fired to get out of coaching Watson. That team looks like they hate their QB. He was good before the shoulder surgery, maybe he's washed now. That's going to go down as one of the all time worsts - 3 R1 picks and a fully guaranteed quarter of a billion dollar contract. They actually have cap space to eat it, but won't unless the fans revolt. Ownership is going to force the team to play him, so who knows. Stefanski is (usually) a pretty smart offensive guy, he'll land on his feet.

        Daboll is another one - smart offensive guy saddled with a meh at QB. Their OL is improved this year at the expense of losing Saquon and McKinney (thanks guys!). I think he has some rope because only the delusional really expect them to make a lot of noise, but canning him would not shock me.

        I'll throw a very unlikely name out there - if they crap the bed, watch out Sean McDermott. I don't think he's all that and a bag of chips as a coach and that roster has been SB level talented for years.

        I'd also throw Antonio Pierce on the list. The Raiders are a bad team.

        AZ's Jonathon Gannon was feeling the heat before beating SF, he could start feeling it again.

        Sirianni's seat was warming up too, but I think he'll be ok unless they implode like last year.

        If Tepper fires the CAR coach he'll be paying something like 3-4 head coaches at the same time.
        i think Sirianni could be in trouble - jawing with fans now.

        I think McDermott is on the warm seat only if he sits down right after Josh Allen leaves the stall.

        It'd be crazy weird if Jerruh fired MM after the Detroit beat-down. What a stupid idea to pay Dak Prescott stupid money. How's it been going the last few years, Jerruh? You sure are putting your stamp on the organization, aren't ya?
        "The Devine era is actually worse than you remember if you go back and look at it."

        KYPack

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        • #5
          Originally posted by Joemailman View Post
          Robert Saleh of the Jets already incinerated.

          Mike McCarthy - Dallas: Cowboys 3-3 after losing 47-9 to Detroit at home. McCarthy is in the last year of his contract. In 2010 Jerry Jones fired Wade Phillips during the season following a 45-7 loss to McCarthy's Packers.

          Doug Pederson - Jaguars. Jaguars are 1-5. Pederson in his 4th year, has made the playoffs once. Has a highly paid, underachieving QB. Since winning SB with Eagles in 2017, Pederson is 41-47-1.

          Dennis Allen - New Orleans Saints - 2-4 after todays loss. In his 3rd season. Has not made playoffs despite being in NFL's weakest division. 18-22 overall.

          Kevin Stefanski - Cleveland. 1-5 so far this year. In his 5th year, has made playoffs twice, without a playoff win. Stuck with a bad, overpaid QB, but team has been a major disappointment this year.

          Brian Daboll - NY Giants - Currently 2-3. 17-21-1 in 2+ years. Since Tom Coughlin retired, Giants have not stuck with coaches very long.
          I think Daboll gets one more year, the others are gone. I was told it was disrespectful to fire fat mike mid season for reasons. I think Jerruh is close to doing it anyway, and I don't blame him. His real mistake was hiring the moron.
          The only time success comes before work is in the dictionary -- Vince Lombardi

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          • #6
            Agree on McDermott, but he will survive. Zac Taylor needs to go as well.
            The only time success comes before work is in the dictionary -- Vince Lombardi

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            • #7
              Originally posted by bobblehead View Post
              I think Daboll gets one more year, the others are gone. I was told it was disrespectful to fire fat mike mid season for reasons. I think Jerruh is close to doing it anyway, and I don't blame him. His real mistake was hiring the moron.
              But it's easier to get rid of your coach than the way, way, way overpaid QB that Jerruh way, way, way overpaid. I think that was his biggest mistake.
              "The Devine era is actually worse than you remember if you go back and look at it."

              KYPack

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              • #8
                One note on Cleveland. They are struggling with a defensive coordinator who used to be a Detroilet coach who wasn't entirely terrible. For some reason, a defense of startling talents cannot play disciplined ball. I guess it's just "cowabunga" to the QB and no one cares if lanes are left open, if LBs scrape to cover a hole, if safeties help. Do people communicate at all? Maybe they just don't care given what's on the other side of the ball. Their offense is just awful. the O-line is incompetent, and they are depleted at skill positions. The QB is awful, but it's hard to tell how much is his fault. Trained in a wild, freewheeling style, asked to be a drop back QB with about 0.5 seconds to hold the ball. Well, good night. Firing the coach isn't gonna help anyone, but it might feel good for a while, like scratching a poison oak rash.

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                • #9
                  Funny thing is, Jim Schwartz was considered a HC prospect last offseason because the CLE defense was very good last year.
                  They have regressed, but that's actually not uncommon for defenses -- they are subject to randomness like turnovers and strength of schedule. I do agree they aren't playing as well - they seem less disciplined.

                  And even though I think their QB is a trash person, I also think he's not very good at football this year. Stefanski's scheme isn't fitting him either which is weird. Just a bad vibe all the way around with that team.

                  That franchise isn't snakebitten, it's haunted.

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                  • #10
                    As PB Max always said, it's the factory of sadness.

                    As I understand it, Watson is so Fubared that they're giving him the easiest possible offense to execute - like high school stuff - because he can't process shit for some reason any more.

                    It's poison out there in Cleveland. Kinda like the Jest in New York. Or, at this point, the Cowboys in Dallas. Jerruh has poisoned that well, with his ridiculous signing of Prescott and his choice of HC, who will soon be fired, I imagine.

                    Wait . . . then they can hire Jim Schvantz in Dallas!
                    "The Devine era is actually worse than you remember if you go back and look at it."

                    KYPack

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                    • #11
                      You're saying, "May the Schwartz be with them"?
                      What could be more GOOD and NORMAL and AMERICAN than Packer Football?

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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by RandsRevenge View Post
                        One note on Cleveland. They are struggling with a defensive coordinator who used to be a Detroilet coach who wasn't entirely terrible. For some reason, a defense of startling talents cannot play disciplined ball. I guess it's just "cowabunga" to the QB and no one cares if lanes are left open, if LBs scrape to cover a hole, if safeties help. Do people communicate at all? Maybe they just don't care given what's on the other side of the ball. Their offense is just awful. the O-line is incompetent, and they are depleted at skill positions. The QB is awful, but it's hard to tell how much is his fault. Trained in a wild, freewheeling style, asked to be a drop back QB with about 0.5 seconds to hold the ball. Well, good night. Firing the coach isn't gonna help anyone, but it might feel good for a while, like scratching a poison oak rash.
                        Professor Rand?

                        Madtown knows shit about the 69ers. Tex, the Cowfuckers. Fritz, the Pussies of Detroit. The Kentucky, the Pussycats of Kentucky, err, Cincinnati.

                        I seem to recall Prof Rand knowing shit about Dog Farts (Browns).

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                        • #13
                          I'd welcom him back. Their is reasen to think it mihgt be him.

                          This is a test.
                          What could be more GOOD and NORMAL and AMERICAN than Packer Football?

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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by Anti-Polar Bear View Post
                            Professor Rand?

                            Madtown knows shit about the 69ers. Tex, the Cowfuckers. Fritz, the Pussies of Detroit. The Kentucky, the Pussycats of Kentucky, err, Cincinnati.

                            I seem to recall Prof Rand knowing shit about Dog Farts (Browns).
                            Tank knows about fake accounts!

                            It’s mostly him with just the right amount of dramatic flare with the revenge part .

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                            • #15
                              Originally posted by texaspackerbacker View Post
                              I'd welcom him back. Their is reasen to think it mihgt be him.

                              This is a test.
                              That’s some nice bait you put out there..

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