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  • #31
    The Cowboys have not made an NFC Championship game in 30 years.
    That is Jerry Jones the GM and owner.

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    • #32
      What was their total wins and losses over that time? Yes THAT is Jerry Jones, the GM and owner.
      What could be more GOOD and NORMAL and AMERICAN than Packer Football?

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      • #33
        251-217. Not quite 54%. Just a little over 500 ball.
        But Rodgers leads the league in frumpy expressions and negative body language on the sideline, which makes him, like Josh Allen, a unique double threat.

        -Tim Harmston

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        • #34
          Another site has 263-221.
          But Rodgers leads the league in frumpy expressions and negative body language on the sideline, which makes him, like Josh Allen, a unique double threat.

          -Tim Harmston

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          • #35
            I wonder if that 1-15 first season is included.

            When Googled it, I found 312 wins and 252 losses, with three Super Bowl wins - for those of ya'all who care about Super Bowl wins.
            What could be more GOOD and NORMAL and AMERICAN than Packer Football?

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            • #36
              Originally posted by texaspackerbacker View Post
              I wonder if that 1-15 first season is included.

              When Googled it, I found 312 wins and 252 losses, with three Super Bowl wins - for those of ya'all who care about Super Bowl wins.
              I don't think people are saying he was never a good GM. But it's been a long time. Every team in the NFC has been to the NFC Title Game more recently than the Cowboys. They have 5 playoff wins in 29 years. The Packers have as many postseason wins at AT&T Stadium as the Cowboys do. If he weren't the owner, no way in hell he'd still be the General Manager.
              I can't run no more
              With that lawless crowd
              While the killers in high places
              Say their prayers out loud
              But they've summoned, they've summoned up
              A thundercloud
              They're going to hear from me - Leonard Cohen

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              • #37
                Originally posted by run pMc View Post
                Gary and a 1st... and then you have to sign him to a long term contract.
                I would expect some of Gary's bonus money would accelerate onto the cap as well.

                I would not give up much in picks for the pleasure of signing a player to their second (and likely highest priced) contract. You're almost certainly overpaying.

                Parsons is a good player, but he didn't exactly have a big impact against GB in the playoffs when the game mattered. I'm not sure if he's prime-Nick Bosa or *.J. Watt.

                I'd pass unless you could get him for a relatively low price.
                Besides, Jerrah is eventually going to pay the man. He's done this with Dak, CeeDee, et al. It's his senile way of doing things. It gets more press because it's the Cowpokes and Jerrah does nothing but fan the flames.

                Also - no to Hendrickson. That dude is 30 and at that age you'll get maybe 1-2 good years out of him and that's it. He's trying to renegotiate an extension he already got that he feels he's outperformed.

                Giving up a R1 pick is a cheap cost controlled contract for 4-5 years. That has a lot of value when you have a $50M QB eating up a chunk of your cap, and a bunch of players hitting FA at the end of the season.
                There's the GM's thinking regarding such a trade. I'm in agreement - why give up a round one pick with the control you have in order to sign a guy not named Reggie White to a monster, monster contract?

                As Nancy Reagan would've said, just say no.
                "The Devine era is actually worse than you remember if you go back and look at it."

                KYPack

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                • #38
                  Originally posted by Fritz View Post
                  There's the GM's thinking regarding such a trade. I'm in agreement - why give up a round one pick with the control you have in order to sign a guy not named Reggie White to a monster, monster contract?

                  As Nancy Reagan would've said, just say no.

                  I'm not saying do it..or not.....but in terms of the Reggie White reference

                  Isn't Parson's the best defensive player in the NFL ?
                  TERD Buckley over Troy Vincent, Robert Ferguson over Chris Chambers, Kevn King instead of TJ Watt, and now, RICH GANNON, over JIMMY JIMMY JIMMY LEONARD. Thank you FLOWER

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                  • #39
                    Originally posted by Bretsky View Post
                    I'm not saying do it..or not.....but in terms of the Reggie White reference

                    Isn't Parson's the best defensive player in the NFL ?
                    He's probably the best pass rusher. I don't really know how good he is against the run. Probably pretty good. But there are 2 big differences between this and the Reggie White situation. One is that the Packers didn't have to give anything up to get Reggie. They just had to pay him. The other is that the Packers at that time had had 1 playoff appearance in 20 years. By getting White they were trying to change how people outside Green Bay viewed the organization. It worked. This team doesn't really need to do that.
                    I can't run no more
                    With that lawless crowd
                    While the killers in high places
                    Say their prayers out loud
                    But they've summoned, they've summoned up
                    A thundercloud
                    They're going to hear from me - Leonard Cohen

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                    • #40
                      I think that's up for debate.

                      But remember you're getting him at this moment when he may have just had his best two or three seasons - you're paying a guy in the future for what he's done in the past. And is a non-QB worth that money? With the vagaries of health in the NFL, I'm going to say no.
                      "The Devine era is actually worse than you remember if you go back and look at it."

                      KYPack

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                      • #41
                        Originally posted by texaspackerbacker View Post
                        Today's game demonstrated that the Packers are loaded with pass rush talent already. A Parsons trade certainly doesn't need to be made. As I said, he's good but not that super enough to justify what is being talked about. And as somebody else said, he would always be one injury away from such a trade being a colossal waste.

                        This sorta reminds me of all the idiotic media generated crap about Giannis and the Bucks - minus the remarkable loyalty of Giannis, of course.

                        The bottom line, though, of this Parsons thing is that despite the stupid disrespect Jerry Jones gets from some know nothings in here, he's done as good a GM job over the years as any non-owner GM, and he's highly likely to find a way to retain Parsons.
                        He's been stellar. Look at all his playoff success. And he made a brilliant coaching hire in fat Mike. I mean, how has this guy not won a GM of the year award??
                        The only time success comes before work is in the dictionary -- Vince Lombardi

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                        • #42
                          Originally posted by ThunderDan View Post
                          Another site has 263-221.
                          Thats a one season difference, so probably they are including a year on the front end where the team was 12-4 before the full Jerruh experience set in.
                          The only time success comes before work is in the dictionary -- Vince Lombardi

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                          • #43
                            Originally posted by Bretsky View Post
                            I'm not saying do it..or not.....but in terms of the Reggie White reference

                            Isn't Parson's the best defensive player in the NFL ?
                            Not even the best EDGE. Trey Hendrickson, Max Crosby, TJ Watt, Myles Garrett, Aiden Hutchinson, Nick Bosa. I can't say he is definitely better than any of those but I can say Garrett is the best defender in the NFL.
                            The only time success comes before work is in the dictionary -- Vince Lombardi

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                            • #44
                              He is the second best in the NFL behind Garrett.

                              He if LVN can hit what he is supposed to be and Gary can have a rebound year then he is not needed but damn I would trade soo much to get him.
                              Swede: My expertise in this area is extensive. The essential difference between a "battleship" and an "aircraft carrier" is that an aircraft carrier requires five direct hits to sink, but it takes only four direct hits to sink a battleship.

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                              • #45
                                Originally posted by Tony Oday View Post
                                He is the second best in the NFL behind Garrett.

                                He if LVN can hit what he is supposed to be and Gary can have a rebound year then he is not needed but damn I would trade soo much to get him.
                                Another issue with him is that he is a "bend the edge" guy. Those are the guys that allow what we saw Willis do Saturday. If you go wide and the tackle doesn't 100% whiff mobile QBs leak out for big runs. I'm just not as high on him as I am others. I'd take Crosby ahead of Parsons in a minute.
                                The only time success comes before work is in the dictionary -- Vince Lombardi

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