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  • Originally posted by Joemailman View Post
    You seem to equate being willing to try something new with " to not know what direction it’s heading". This is a very different defense than what they had when they passed on Brian Banks. Heck, it's a different defense than what they had when they drafted Van Ness. Maybe they now see more value in a speed rusher than they did in the past. Haven't been to a Super Bowl in 15 years. Is a new approach such a bad thing?
    Is Gute hearing his clock ticking away?

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    • Originally posted by MadtownPacker View Post
      Is Gute hearing his clock ticking away?
      He should. Ed Policy said he is not considering extending either Gutekunst or LaFleur at this time: that will wait until after this season. Both are in their next to last season, a common time for extensions to be negotiated, before they get to their contract years. Sounds like "prove it" seasons for both.

      The new sheriff in town might want to hire his own deputies.

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      • It’s already been rumored that Policy is not afraid to move on from Gute and MLF if they don’t produce.
        That would include unhitching his wagon from Love.

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        • Parsons' contract is more like a 3 year deal...then we'll talk about it.

          I can't run no more
          With that lawless crowd
          While the killers in high places
          Say their prayers out loud
          But they've summoned, they've summoned up
          A thundercloud
          They're going to hear from me - Leonard Cohen

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          • Originally posted by Patler View Post
            He should. Ed Policy said he is not considering extending either Gutekunst or LaFleur at this time: that will wait until after this season. Both are in their next to last season, a common time for extensions to be negotiated, before they get to their contract years. Sounds like "prove it" seasons for both.

            The new sheriff in town might want to hire his own deputies.
            How far does the team have to go? The NFCC would be my expectation. Too much big talk after thecowboy playoff stomping and near loss to SF has dug a deep hole of expectations for both. This trade practically screams it out.

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            • Originally posted by Teamcheez1 View Post
              It’s already been rumored that Policy is not afraid to move on from Gute and MLF if they don’t produce.
              That would include unhitching his wagon from Love.
              Yeah, would definitely be the beginning of the end for Love in GB. He would have to be successful with a new staff, and he hasn’t earned the grace period Favre or Rodgers winning it all.

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              • Originally posted by Joemailman View Post
                Parsons' contract is more like a 3 year deal...then we'll talk about it.

                Damn, that means Tank was right with his cooking the cap talk. There is a way to do these things if someone is willing to put reputation and job on the line to get it done.

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                • Originally posted by MadtownPacker View Post
                  Damn, that means Tank was right with his cooking the cap talk. There is a way to do these things if someone is willing to put reputation and job on the line to get it done.
                  It's true up to a point. But if you overdo it, you end up like the Saints.
                  I can't run no more
                  With that lawless crowd
                  While the killers in high places
                  Say their prayers out loud
                  But they've summoned, they've summoned up
                  A thundercloud
                  They're going to hear from me - Leonard Cohen

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                  • This is one of the stupidest trades I’ve ever seen. Parsons is on a HOF trajectory and is in his prime through the entire 4 year contract.

                    Some comparable careers of 6’3” 245 pass rushers are:

                    Von Miller
                    Derrick Thomas
                    Lawrence Taylor (not quite as heavy, but smaller eras)

                    Clay Matthews (not quite as good)

                    The drop off happens at 30 for all of the above.


                    This is one of the most one sided trades I’ve ever seen. Mack was not as good as Parsons.
                    Formerly known as JustinHarrell.

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                    • Originally posted by RashanGary View Post
                      This is one of the stupidest trades I’ve ever seen. Parsons is on a HOF trajectory and is in his prime through the entire 4 year contract.

                      Some comparable careers of 6’3” 245 pass rushers are:

                      Von Miller
                      Derrick Thomas
                      Lawrence Taylor (not quite as heavy, but smaller eras)

                      Clay Matthews (not quite as good)

                      The drop off happens at 30 for all of the above.


                      This is one of the most one sided trades I’ve ever seen. Mack was not as good as Parsons.
                      Welcome back, Harrell. (And you, too, Cumby.)

                      Great trade for the Packers. Odds are against the Packers finding a player of Parsons’ kung fu with the two picks they gave up. Clark is overrated and overpaid. Hustling Jack Heflin can do what Clark does for a lot less frogskins.

                      Prime Claymaker was good. Had the same cat-like chase after QBs that Parsons has. Problem with the Claymaker is, every time he chased after a QB, he was a hammy pull waiting to happen. Knock on woods, but Parsons doesn’t have a history of hammy pulls.
                      I don’t want a battle from beginning to end
                      I don’t want a cycle of recycled revenge

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                      • Originally posted by MadtownPacker View Post
                        Damn, that means Tank was right with his cooking the cap talk. There is a way to do these things if someone is willing to put reputation and job on the line to get it done.
                        Of course APB was right. He was echoing me hahahaha. And yeah, it can be overdone, but that takes a bunch of bad luck/bad circumstances. As I've said a couple of times now, Parsons damn well better not get hurt. A serious injury could seriously fuck up everything. Actually, though, that would probably take several serious injuries and the need to replace the injured. As important as Edge Rusher and in particular Parsons is, replacing a high paid QB would do more to mess up the cap cooking.
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                        • This is huge. Probably lose several players as cap causalities over the next three years or so. That might be the window of opportunity.

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                          • Originally posted by Joemailman View Post
                            Parsons' contract is more like a 3 year deal...then we'll talk about it.

                            Thanks for this. It looks pretty kind to our cap for 2025 (this current season), 2026, and 2027, then the cap and dead money values flip-flop in 2028. That's pretty okay for the short-term.

                            Is there a mechanism for converting bonuses to salary, so we could take more of the signing-bonus hit in an upcoming season that we have cap space, or does it only work in the opposite direction (converting salary to signing bonus to space out the cap hit)?
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                            • Originally posted by Teamcheez1 View Post
                              It’s already been rumored that Policy is not afraid to move on from Gute and MLF if they don’t produce.
                              That would include unhitching his wagon from Love.
                              Originally posted by MadtownPacker View Post
                              Yeah, would definitely be the beginning of the end for Love in GB. He would have to be successful with a new staff, and he hasn’t earned the grace period Favre or Rodgers winning it all.
                              ....and Gute has traded away draft value that would be needed to get Love's replacement. The Packers could become like so many other teams, searching years for the next "guy".

                              If this trade doesn't work out like they hope, it could hurt their outlook for years.

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                              • Originally posted by sharpe1027 View Post
                                This is huge. Probably lose several players as cap causalities over the next three years or so. That might be the window of opportunity.
                                No no no, nobody of consequence. If anything like that happened at all, it wouldn't be until the fourth year of the contract, and either restructuring him or cutting him if he deteriorates would be strongly likely then.
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