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    Jordan Love - 16-22, 188 yards, 2 TD, 128.6 passer rating.

    Josh Jacobs - 8 yards rushing in 1st half, 58 yards and 1 TD in 2nd half.

    Romeo Doubs - 68 yards receiving.

    Defense held Lions to 46 yards rushing.

    Defense held Lions to 5.8 yards per reception and had 4 sacks.

    Edgerrin Cooper 12 total tackles.

    Quay Walker 9 tackles and 2 TFL's.

    Daniel Whelan 54.7 average and 2 punts inside 20.

    Discuss.
    I can't run no more
    With that lawless crowd
    While the killers in high places
    Say their prayers out loud
    But they've summoned, they've summoned up
    A thundercloud
    They're going to hear from me - Leonard Cohen

  • #2
    Full game effort. Feels like it has been a long time since we have seen that kind of effort.
    But Rodgers leads the league in frumpy expressions and negative body language on the sideline, which makes him, like Josh Allen, a unique double threat.

    -Tim Harmston

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    • #3
      Team played with a fire in their belly that I don't remember seeing for a long time.

      This defense might be very special.

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      • #4
        Other than three straight runs to 3-and-out followed by two near picks and a Tom injury, the offense wasn't bad but still not quite there.

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        • #5
          Defense was playoff ready. Offense was playoff choking ready. Not a big deal since it’s only week 1.

          The QB pressure was an awesome sight to see. This is going to be a fun season if the defense can bring this kind of mentality every game.

          Love needs to go a little league practice and learn how to slide before he hurts himself.

          Refs still working for the casinos trying to give out garbage time points.

          I’m sorry for saying it might be over Romeo. I’m still your biggest fan on here.

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          • #6
            I'll take a backup Romeo fan club position. He's a Reno boy after all. Never know. If he can't find the right offer on the open market he could find himself back next year, but it looks bleak for him and Watson.
            The only time success comes before work is in the dictionary -- Vince Lombardi

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            • #7
              The execution and playcalling on 3rd down was pathetic.
              We converted 3 first downs in the 1st qtr.
              1 in the 2nd qtr.
              None the rest of the game.

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              • #8
                Originally posted by MadtownPacker View Post
                Love needs to go a little league practice and learn how to slide before he hurts himself.
                LOL, as the kids say. Even my wife thought he had a seizure and was dead. But she has less faith in Love than I do. Nice first half with a couple misses. Went incognito second half. He’s still ghey.
                "You're all very smart, and I'm very dumb." - Partial

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                • #9
                  Detroit played better on defense in the second half working to stop the pass. Our defense was lights out.

                  I’ve got to remember that this is the first game and the first couple of games can be anomalies.

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                  • #10
                    Gee, run defense played better without Cletidus.

                    A wise man once said that Clark is overrated (and overpaid).
                    I don’t want a battle from beginning to end
                    I don’t want a cycle of recycled revenge

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                    • #11
                      True, APB, but I don't think that is as much a knock on Clark as it was because of the quality that replaced him and of course the excellent D Coordinator we have now.
                      What could be more GOOD and NORMAL and AMERICAN than Packer Football?

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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by texaspackerbacker View Post
                        True, APB, but I don't think that is as much a knock on Clark as it was because of the quality that replaced him and of course the excellent D Coordinator we have now.
                        The Packers weren’t even a good run defensive team with Clark. Opponents ran up and down the guts all day where Clark roamed like knife through butter.
                        I don’t want a battle from beginning to end
                        I don’t want a cycle of recycled revenge

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                        • #13
                          Best, worst PFF grades:

                          Top 5 offense
                          QB Jordan Love: 76.3
                          WR Dontayvion Wicks: 74.8
                          WR Romeo Doubs: 74.8
                          OL Jordan Morgan: 73.5
                          OL Sean Rhyan: 73.3

                          Love was elite from clean pockets, completing 14 of 17 passes for 170 yards and two scores, and he finished with four big-time throws. Wicks caught both of his targets for 30 yards, including one contested catch, and he averaged 3.33 yards per route run. Doubs went 1-for-2 on contested catches and had a 48-yard catch and also a 20-yarder. Morgan allowed one hurry and was solid as both a run blocker and pass protector while playing 15 snaps at right guard and five at left guard. Rhyan didn't allow a pressure over 14 pass-blocking snaps, earning a team-best 84.2 pass-blocking grade.

                          Top 5 defense

                          S Evan Williams: 90.5
                          DL Devonte Wyatt: 78.7
                          LB Edgerrin Cooper: 77.6
                          CB Carrington Valentine: 72.6
                          DL Lukas Van Ness: 68.7

                          Williams earned the team's first "elite" grade of the season after intercepting a pass in the red zone and giving up just one catch for five yards on three targets into his coverage. Wyatt had four pressures, including a sack and a QB hit, and he earned the team's top run defense grade. Cooper missed three tackles but still delivered a team-high eight stops, or a tackle creating an offensive failure, and he also had a pressure. Valentine played every snap and gave up just one catch for 13 yards. Van Ness had four pressures, including a sack, and he produced three stops against the run in a disruptive all-around performance.

                          Bottom 5 offense

                          LG Aaron Banks: 44.0
                          TE Luke Musgrave: 51.2
                          WR Malik Heath: 54.8
                          OL Darian Kinnard: 57.2
                          RB Josh Jacobs: 59.2

                          Banks earned the lowest run-blocking grade among the offensive linemen, and he gave up one pressure. Musgrave struggled in the run game and caught only one pass for four yards while running just four routes. Heath was average as a run blocker and didn't have a target on four routes run. Kinnard didn't give up a pressure but was given poor pass-blocking grades over four snaps in pass pro and 15 snaps overall at right tackle. Jacobs gained 55 yards after first contact, but he averaged only 3.5 yards per attempt and wasn't a factor as a receiver.

                          Bottom 5 defense

                          DB Javon Bullard: 44.8
                          DL Nazir Stackhouse: 51.3
                          DE Kingsley Enagbare: 53.3
                          DL Karl Brooks: 53.9
                          S Xavier McKinney: 54.7

                          Bullard allowed 10 catches on 11 targets into his coverage and had a penalty, but he also had three stops and gave up just 7.2 yards per catch. Stackhouse played eight snaps but wasn't impactful against the run. Enagbare's 21 snaps resulted in zero pressures, two tackles and zero stops. Brooks produced only two hurries on 25 pass-rushins snaps. McKinney had five tackles without a miss, but he was credited with allowing Sam LaPorta's 32-yard catch, and he had a 15-yard penalty.

                          Special teams

                          Running back Chris Brooks earned an "elite" special teams grade at 90.0 after delivering three total tackles (one solo, two assisted) covering kicks and punts. Nick Niemann had three tackles and one assist on special teams. The Packers committed two penalties and missed five tackles but earned a solid 76.0 special teams grade overall. Brandon McManus didn't have a miss and Daniel Whelen boomed three punts. Jayden Reed and Matthew Golden combined to return three punts for 32 yards.

                          Quarterback play

                          Jordan Love: 76.3

                          Love was a killer from clean pockets but did struggle when under pressure. First, the good. Love completed 14 of 17 passes for 170 yards, two scores and three-big time throws from clean pockets (17 of 23 dropbacks). But on his six pressured dropbacks, Love completed 2 of 5 passes for 18 yards and had two turnover-worthy plays. Off play-action, Love completed 6 of 7 passes for 87 yards. He was also 2-for-4 throwing over 20 yard downfield, with two near misses. Love was especially good attacking the middle of the field, completing eight passes for 124 yards and a touchdown between the numbers.

                          Micah Parsons: 66.0
                          Parsons played 30 snaps and earned a 66.0 overall grade. He produced two pressures, including a sack, and his 73.9 pass-rushing grade led the defense. PFF didn't grade Parsons high as a run defender, but the Packers allowed -2 yards on seven rushing attempts with Parsons on the field Sunday. Of Parsons' 30 snaps, 28 came as a traditional defensive end. Twice he lined up inside.

                          Rookie spotlight

                          First-round pick Matthew Golden caught two passes for 16 yards, including an 11-yarder that converted a third down. He played 23 snaps and ran 18 routes, mostly from the perimeter. His blocking in the run game was subpar.
                          I can't run no more
                          With that lawless crowd
                          While the killers in high places
                          Say their prayers out loud
                          But they've summoned, they've summoned up
                          A thundercloud
                          They're going to hear from me - Leonard Cohen

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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by SkinBasket View Post
                            LOL, as the kids say. Even my wife thought he had a seizure and was dead. But she has less faith in Love than I do. Nice first half with a couple misses. Went incognito second half. He’s still ghey.
                            Yeah it was pretty bad. Was thinking he didn’t even slide so could have still been hit if the defenders weren’t also very confused by it. He did disappear in the second half. Also where did Golden go after that sweet first catch?

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                            • #15
                              Originally posted by Joemailman View Post
                              Best, worst PFF grades:

                              Top 5 offense
                              QB Jordan Love: 76.3
                              WR Dontayvion Wicks: 74.8
                              WR Romeo Doubs: 74.8
                              OL Jordan Morgan: 73.5
                              OL Sean Rhyan: 73.3

                              Love was elite from clean pockets, completing 14 of 17 passes for 170 yards and two scores, and he finished with four big-time throws. Wicks caught both of his targets for 30 yards, including one contested catch, and he averaged 3.33 yards per route run. Doubs went 1-for-2 on contested catches and had a 48-yard catch and also a 20-yarder. Morgan allowed one hurry and was solid as both a run blocker and pass protector while playing 15 snaps at right guard and five at left guard. Rhyan didn't allow a pressure over 14 pass-blocking snaps, earning a team-best 84.2 pass-blocking grade.

                              Top 5 defense

                              S Evan Williams: 90.5
                              DL Devonte Wyatt: 78.7
                              LB Edgerrin Cooper: 77.6
                              CB Carrington Valentine: 72.6
                              DL Lukas Van Ness: 68.7

                              Williams earned the team's first "elite" grade of the season after intercepting a pass in the red zone and giving up just one catch for five yards on three targets into his coverage. Wyatt had four pressures, including a sack and a QB hit, and he earned the team's top run defense grade. Cooper missed three tackles but still delivered a team-high eight stops, or a tackle creating an offensive failure, and he also had a pressure. Valentine played every snap and gave up just one catch for 13 yards. Van Ness had four pressures, including a sack, and he produced three stops against the run in a disruptive all-around performance.

                              Bottom 5 offense

                              LG Aaron Banks: 44.0
                              TE Luke Musgrave: 51.2
                              WR Malik Heath: 54.8
                              OL Darian Kinnard: 57.2
                              RB Josh Jacobs: 59.2

                              Banks earned the lowest run-blocking grade among the offensive linemen, and he gave up one pressure. Musgrave struggled in the run game and caught only one pass for four yards while running just four routes. Heath was average as a run blocker and didn't have a target on four routes run. Kinnard didn't give up a pressure but was given poor pass-blocking grades over four snaps in pass pro and 15 snaps overall at right tackle. Jacobs gained 55 yards after first contact, but he averaged only 3.5 yards per attempt and wasn't a factor as a receiver.

                              Bottom 5 defense

                              DB Javon Bullard: 44.8
                              DL Nazir Stackhouse: 51.3
                              DE Kingsley Enagbare: 53.3
                              DL Karl Brooks: 53.9
                              S Xavier McKinney: 54.7

                              Bullard allowed 10 catches on 11 targets into his coverage and had a penalty, but he also had three stops and gave up just 7.2 yards per catch. Stackhouse played eight snaps but wasn't impactful against the run. Enagbare's 21 snaps resulted in zero pressures, two tackles and zero stops. Brooks produced only two hurries on 25 pass-rushins snaps. McKinney had five tackles without a miss, but he was credited with allowing Sam LaPorta's 32-yard catch, and he had a 15-yard penalty.

                              Special teams

                              Running back Chris Brooks earned an "elite" special teams grade at 90.0 after delivering three total tackles (one solo, two assisted) covering kicks and punts. Nick Niemann had three tackles and one assist on special teams. The Packers committed two penalties and missed five tackles but earned a solid 76.0 special teams grade overall. Brandon McManus didn't have a miss and Daniel Whelen boomed three punts. Jayden Reed and Matthew Golden combined to return three punts for 32 yards.

                              Quarterback play

                              Jordan Love: 76.3

                              Love was a killer from clean pockets but did struggle when under pressure. First, the good. Love completed 14 of 17 passes for 170 yards, two scores and three-big time throws from clean pockets (17 of 23 dropbacks). But on his six pressured dropbacks, Love completed 2 of 5 passes for 18 yards and had two turnover-worthy plays. Off play-action, Love completed 6 of 7 passes for 87 yards. He was also 2-for-4 throwing over 20 yard downfield, with two near misses. Love was especially good attacking the middle of the field, completing eight passes for 124 yards and a touchdown between the numbers.

                              Micah Parsons: 66.0
                              Parsons played 30 snaps and earned a 66.0 overall grade. He produced two pressures, including a sack, and his 73.9 pass-rushing grade led the defense. PFF didn't grade Parsons high as a run defender, but the Packers allowed -2 yards on seven rushing attempts with Parsons on the field Sunday. Of Parsons' 30 snaps, 28 came as a traditional defensive end. Twice he lined up inside.

                              Rookie spotlight

                              First-round pick Matthew Golden caught two passes for 16 yards, including an 11-yarder that converted a third down. He played 23 snaps and ran 18 routes, mostly from the perimeter. His blocking in the run game was subpar.

                              If as ACME claimed in an article today, when Hobbs comes back only two of the following three can be on the field at the same time (Valentine, Bullard, and Williams) in the nickel D, then I choose Valentine and Williams. Bullard tackles well but doesn't seem to cover well and isn't as good a safety as Williams nor as good a slot corner as Valentine is an outside corner.
                              "The Devine era is actually worse than you remember if you go back and look at it."

                              KYPack

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