Ted Thompson

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So what is the difference between TT's roster and Sherman's? TT has close to average NFL starters drafted at the top, and a few decent players in the lower rounds.

How do you figure the cap is set-up to do that? There is no way they can keep paying high first round picks until they are competitive. It just does not work that way.

Sherman's roster was full of players acquired by Ron Wolf. That is the difference. There's little doubt we are in the mess that we are in because of the pathetic drafts we had from 2001-2004. Sherman was a big part of that.

Here's the list of players still on the team from those drafts:

Robert Ferguson, Scott Wells, Corey Williams, Aaron Kampman, Ahmad Carroll, Nick Barnett, and David Martin. We'll give him credit for Javon Walker also. He also acquired Al Harris via a draft pick. That's a pretty pathetic and small group.

Who did Sherman mostly win with? Brett Favre, Ahman Green, Donald Driver, Chad Clifton, Mark Tauscher, Ryan Longwell, KGB, Mike Flanagan, Marco Rivera, William Henderson, Bubba Franks, Na'il Diggs, Darren Sharper. Guys that Ron Wolf acquired. When those guys got old, we didn't have any young players to replace them OR we didn't have the salary cap room to resign some of them (thanks to guys like Joe Johnson and Cletidus Hunt).

I don't disagree with you, I am playing devil's advocate. If we give Mike Sherman credit for Javon Walker, we can give TT credit for AJ Hawk.

Simply put, he hasn't shown to be a better YET than Sherman. His first draft was poor. We can all agree there.

[HarveyWallbangers]

Simply put, he hasn't shown to be a better YET than Sherman. His first draft was poor. We can all agree there.

I wouldn't agree yet. Give it a year or two. If Aaron Rodgers turns into a solid starting QB, it will look a lot better. If Nick Collins develops, it will look a lot better. You can't close the book on Brady Poppinga, Mike Montgomery, Marviel Underwood, and Junius Coston either. We'll see. It looks below average at this point, but there are still players that could develop. It's also hard to fault Thompson for the loss of Terrence Murphy. He looked like a really nice prospect--who didn't have injury concerns coming out of college.

The thing I like about Thompson is that he knows the draft is a crapshoot, so he gathers picks. If you have 12 picks and 6 don't pan out right away, there are still 6 guys left that could turn into something.

This draft looks a lot better, but the draft position helped a lot.

[esoxx]

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I will express never dieing, man love for TT untill he's proven to be a crappy GM.

I believe in pretty much every thing he says. I believe in not doing something that will bring about a gain in the short term, but rather focusing on the big picture and doing what you believe will be the best decision looking back at the big picture.

You mean like signing Koren Robinson? Talk about reaching for short term gain..

[MJZiggy]

Koren may be reaching for a short-term gain, but the deal contains no long-term cap ramifications. None. TT can cut him next week and it won't hurt us. How many of Sherman's short-term gain deals were set up like that?

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Koren may be reaching for a short-term gain, but the deal contains no long-term cap ramifications. None. TT can cut him next week and it won't hurt us. How many of Sherman's short-term gain deals were set up like that?

Probably all of them. My point is this:

If Sherman was a 1/10 on putting a quality team on the field as a GM,
TY is a 2/10 thus far at best. I don't see the harm is signing a few veterans to short term deals to help the youngens learn there way. No cap ramifications and lets the youngens learn on the bench (where they should).

[Scott Campbell]

This draft looks a lot better, but the draft position helped a lot.

So did getting the pick(s) for Walker.

[RashanGary]

So, ok, his player are all good by their 4th year. They all want big salaries. What does TT do now?

We keep them. Our salary cap is set up to do just that.

We're not going to be this young forever. The only reason we are now is becuase Thompson hated pretty much everything about Shermans roster and believed it was time to part ways with EVERYONE.

4 years ago