Official Offseason Workout/OTA's/Minicamp Thread

[bobblehead]

Run, I'm not all disagree with you here. I like watson and have liked him all along. I wanted Pickens, but i digress. Here is the real catch for me. If Watson suddenly really breaks out with elite numbers will he play out the deal? My guess is that the second the guaranteed money is gone he wants to redo it. I'd rather make him play this year, if he breaks out you franchise him and work out the long term deal. I don't mind paying him even more if he is healthy and bangs out 90 for 1300 and 12TDs. But if he plays 9 games and gets 600 yards I won't be very happy with what we are paying him. edit: especially if he misses the playoffs and will be out part of next year. Given his history this is a very real possibility. He is slight of build for the NFL and we see how that worked out with Jaire....his attitude is much better than Jaire though.

[run pMc]

I'd have to see how the contract breaks down, but all the 'experts' believe there will be strong playing time incentives in the contract. GB likes to do 4 year deals, and usually they end up really being (from a cap perspective) a 2 year deal with guarantees, plus another 2 years of no guaranteed money (effectively, team options) attached. Watson wouldn't really have much leverage to hold out or hold in until the end of Year 3 on the contract, and everything we know about him so far is that he's a high character guy who isn't afraid to do dirty work like blocking, and isn't likely to go AWOL like Doubs did. His injury history likely kept his guarantees so low.

I completely agree it's a gamble, and if he continues to get hurt it's a bad deal. I think they are betting based on his last two seasons and especially his last 10 games (which were consecutive) that his health is going to be more consistent and he'll stay on the field. If he does that he is definitely worth the contract (compared to other WR1s). Moreover, if the extension is on top of the one he signed last year (i.e., signed for the next 5 years) the average money goes down and this looks even better. If healthy, he's a top 10ish WR per snap; staying healthy is the tricky part.

I liked Pickens coming out too, but he was a character-flag guy and I suspect he turned off GB. You have to be a problem to turn off Mike Tomlin. To his credit, Pickens has been on good behavior in DAL, that probably continues as long as he's on a short-term deal.

[Joemailman]

Mandatory minicamp Tuesday-Thursday. All practices will be open to the press.

[SudsMcBucky]

I'd have to see how the contract breaks down, but all the 'experts' believe there will be strong playing time incentives in the contract. GB likes to do 4 year deals, and usually they end up really being (from a cap perspective) a 2 year deal with guarantees, plus another 2 years of no guaranteed money (effectively, team options) attached. Watson wouldn't really have much leverage to hold out or hold in until the end of Year 3 on the contract, and everything we know about him so far is that he's a high character guy who isn't afraid to do dirty work like blocking, and isn't likely to go AWOL like Doubs did. His injury history likely kept his guarantees so low.

I completely agree it's a gamble, and if he continues to get hurt it's a bad deal. I think they are betting based on his last two seasons and especially his last 10 games (which were consecutive) that his health is going to be more consistent and he'll stay on the field. If he does that he is definitely worth the contract (compared to other WR1s). Moreover, if the extension is on top of the one he signed last year (i.e., signed for the next 5 years) the average money goes down and this looks even better. If healthy, he's a top 10ish WR per snap; staying healthy is the tricky part.

I liked Pickens coming out too, but he was a character-flag guy and I suspect he turned off GB. You have to be a problem to turn off Mike Tomlin. To his credit, Pickens has been on good behavior in DAL, that probably continues as long as he's on a short-term deal.

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Edit: Welp, that came out VERY fuzzy. LOL. Try the link.

https://atozsports.com/nfl/green-bay-packers-news/christian-watson-contract-extension-details/

[pbmax]

Ari Meirov @MySportsUpdate
The #Packers’ extension with WR Christian Watson has been filed, and here are the details:

• 4 years
• $92M
• $31M fully guaranteed

The deal has over $18M in available incentives.

[pbmax]

watsonDeal.jpg Let's try this one.

[run pMc]

So two years for sure, with a decision before the 2028 season, plus room to restructure. You're getting an explosive when healthy player at about $20M per.
I like this.

[bobblehead]

So they tore up the previous 2026 deal. So much for the value of signing him to it last year. However the deal looks better knowing the incentive angle is pretty large.