Carroll Released

[Badgepack]

So whose practice squad do we rob?

[Bossman641]

Not to toot my horn too much, but I posted this about a minute after it was released.

Don't worry, I'll be here all year for breaking news and all that good stuff. You can applaud now.

[Joemailman]

I see this move as a message to everyone involved in the defensive secondary, players and coaches alike. The kind of performance that this unit has turned in so far will not be tolerated. If TT will get rid of a 23 year old 1st round draft pick, no one is safe.

[hurleyfan]

Wow, pretty shocking, but I have to say, not un expected.

This guy was never a good pick for the Packers.

- He was a junior when selected (why did everyone else know he was immature 'cepting Shermie?), played in a conference not known for great passing teams, (he is a good tackler), and less than 6 foot tall! Let's see, in the NFC North the Packers have the smallest receivers, and Moss was still within the division when AC was picked.

[superfan]

I too agree with Guiness and some of the others that don't like the move. Bench Carroll, put him on special teams coverage (they could certainly use his aggressive tackling skills on that unit), and promote him back to nickel if his replacement flops. And in the process, try to get something - anything - in return for him. I find it hard to believe another desperate team wouldn't part with a late pick for him.

I'm not saying he deserved to remain on the team, and I'm not going to miss him, but I don't see any better options at this point.

[red]

he's been benched. at some point he has to get back in the game, and when he does its nothing but one stupid thing after another with him.

everytime he was on the field he was a liability in one way or another

every single "good" play i can remember him having could have easily been called foe penalties

and after 3 years, he hadn't taken one step to improve it

and as for getting something. every team in the nfl knows he sucks, thats why they've been going after him since he got in the league. if you can't cut it on one of the bottom tier teams as a nickle back, then you probably don't have much of a career left. i doubt anybody would have given us anything for him

someone might pick him up and try him, but i highly doubt he'll stick there

[Tony Oday]

Im all about pistol whipping this punk out of town HOWEVER why didnt we ever try him at saftey? It seems like that is the skill set he has...well who cares atleast we will be down to two or three interference calls a game!

[CyclonePackFan]

Figured I'd post part of this Peter King article, which I find ironic....

PHILADELPHIA -- Three thoughts in the aftermath of the Eagles' 31-9 win over the Packers on Monday night:

1. The Packers absolutely, positively should not mail it in this season. If the secondary could cover without cheating (which may be impossible, thanks to Ahmad Carroll), this might be a competitive team. The line gave Brett Favre a decent amount of time -- he got shellacked a couple of times, but wasn't sacked -- and he's starting to develop some chemistry with Greg Jennings, who's a legitimate deep threat. I don't think Green Bay is a good team, but the Pack led this game 9-7 after 38 minutes. With St. Louis-bye-Miami-Arizona in the next four weeks, tell me it's a lost cause. You can't.

[Badgepack]

Im all about pistol whipping this punk out of town HOWEVER why didnt we ever try him at saftey? It seems like that is the skill set he has...well who cares atleast we will be down to two or three interference calls a game!

Agree with trying him a safety, we don't have much depth there either.

Anyway, let's get Dion Byrum from Tampa Bay's practice squad and see what he can do.

[vince]

What he said after the game is TOTALLY IRRELEVANT. Of course he's responsible for his failures. I'm glad to see that MM and TT agree with him.

Ya, its totally different for Driver to get up and accept responsibility for a bad performance, and for Carroll to do the same thing. Carroll has performed well, but never for a full game. He always seems to have that lapse in each game. Realizing it doesn't matter much if you can't change it.

I wonder if this was a joint decision, or TT's or MM's? Last year Sherman clearly implied that it was his desire to cut Thomas, and he called TT and asked him to do it. I wonder where it started with Carroll.

It's no different for ANYONE to accept responsibility for their failure. It doesn't change the fact that they failed. That's the bottom line. I want guys that can consistently cover on this team, no matter how much - or little - they accept responsibility when they fail.

[vince]

he's been benched. at some point he has to get back in the game, and when he does its nothing but one stupid thing after another with him.

everytime he was on the field he was a liability in one way or another

every single "good" play i can remember him having could have easily been called foe penalties

and after 3 years, he hadn't taken one step to improve it

and as for getting something. every team in the nfl knows he sucks, thats why they've been going after him since he got in the league. if you can't cut it on one of the bottom tier teams as a nickle back, then you probably don't have much of a career left. i doubt anybody would have given us anything for him

someone might pick him up and try him, but i highly doubt he'll stick there

Dead on, red. The fact that he is no longer occupying a valuable roster spot is positive enough.

[BF4MVP]

Figured I'd post part of this Peter King article, which I find ironic....

PHILADELPHIA -- Three thoughts in the aftermath of the Eagles' 31-9 win over the Packers on Monday night:

1. The Packers absolutely, positively should not mail it in this season. If the secondary could cover without cheating (which may be impossible, thanks to Ahmad Carroll), this might be a competitive team. The line gave Brett Favre a decent amount of time -- he got shellacked a couple of times, but wasn't sacked -- and he's starting to develop some chemistry with Greg Jennings, who's a legitimate deep threat. I don't think Green Bay is a good team, but the Pack led this game 9-7 after 38 minutes. With St. Louis-bye-Miami-Arizona in the next four weeks, tell me it's a lost cause. You can't.

I like that little blurb. I agree with it.

[ND72]

i'm not a huge Carroll fan...BUT. I saw some potential in him, and yeah, he's struggling this year, but you know what, I think Al Harris is doing worse than he is. I think there could have been better things to do than to just simply cut a 23 year old with blazing speed. I donno...i'm not a huge fan of what TT did today. we're basically cutting our nickle back, for????what? now who is the nickle back? Carroll is a pretty solid tackler, of which i think he is our best tackling Corner we have.

That being said, the day we drafted him, I completely expected us to take Chris Gamble....DAMNIT.

[The Shadow]

Building a champion requires chopping off dead wood - even 1st round dead wood.
Carroll never showed (me, at least) that he was progressing.
He had time; he failed.
Goodbye.

[vince]

i'm not a huge Carroll fan...BUT. I saw some potential in him, and yeah, he's struggling this year, but you know what, I think Al Harris is doing worse than he is. I think there could have been better things to do than to just simply cut a 23 year old with blazing speed. I donno...i'm not a huge fan of what TT did today. we're basically cutting our nickle back, for????what? now who is the nickle back? Carroll is a pretty solid tackler, of which i think he is our best tackling Corner we have.

That being said, the day we drafted him, I completely expected us to take Chris Gamble....DAMNIT.

It's amazing to me how so many people can watch an individual get toasted time and time and time and time and time and time again - and yet think that individual will all of a sudden figure out how to shut people down. You can't hide Ahmad Carroll. He can be sitting on the bench and he'll get burned for six.

At least T Buck's problem lied in being such a small corner in an era of unprecedented WR size in our division, plus we had a string of Cowboys showdowns back then where Alvin Harper and the Coke Machine went over the top of him with regularity. Guys like Herman Moore and Chris Carter were too big for T-Buck.

Carroll can't hang his head on getting beat by bigger receivers. He gets beat by everyone that he plays against.