Carroll Released

[KYPack]

You two lads are goin' at it pretty good.

I do have a third take.
I think Carroll earned a benching not a cutting.

Take him off back-up corner
Take him out of the nickle.

He does dime and ALL specials that he fits in.
Chew his ASS & see if he responds at all. 99% you cut him at the end of the year, march or june depending on roster bonuses, etc.
We just really don't have the manpower to totally cut him loose.
He's a goof, a fool, a hotdog, an ass, a whatever.

But he does know where to line up. Some of these kids we got need camp, not regular season experience. We can't just loose him from a logistics standpoint. I thought he might make it, it didn't go. But now we have the greenest kids in the world trying to do a job they don't know.

It's gonna get ugly.

OTOH, maybe we might as well just take it in the pants and get it over with.

You make it sound like Bush and Dendy have never played football before. If Bush gets burned for a touchdown this week and commits two penalites what have we lost ? IF he was not going to play in the secondary anymore, then it was the correct move.

BTW, atleast management can admit a mistake and move on and not hold onto someone just out of hope that they "might" improve enough to validate their draft spot and roster spot.

The only thing worse than making a mistake is not admitting when you made one and correcting it.

Well Spark,

At least you got a good atitude.

I don't agree & I'd like to get into a great cyber-fight with ya.

But I just don't have the juice. I just think Carroll might have a role in dime and some other things and these kids aren't ready to help us.

It can actually retard or ruin young DBack to toss 'em to the wolves like this,

Bush & Dendy have played ball before, but not in the NFL. These are the youngest of the young and this is like running out into rush hour traffic

[MJZiggy]

KY, we do, however have an open roster spot due to Kendrick Allen going on IR, so I'm interested to see what TT will do with it.

[mraynrand]

Carroll = scapegoat, pure and simple. I admit that the guy may never have panned out, but given the blown coverages and huge plays given up by others in the secondary, the cutting of Carroll doesn't seem to be based on any consistently applied criteria.

[Patler]

Bush & Dendy have played ball before, but not in the NFL. These are the youngest of the young and this is like running out into rush hour traffic

You are only half right. Dendy was on the Packers active roster for the final 8 games last year and played in 4 games. He was a game day inactive the other four. He was on the practice saquad the first 8 games.

[KYPack]

KY, we do, however have an open roster spot due to Kendrick Allen going on IR, so I'm interested to see what TT will do with it.

Well we are down:

A LB
A WR (Ferg may be hurt, there's the dude I wanted cut)
A DB (sort of)

The player will have to play ST.

Is it me, or is injury info more difficult to come by?

I didn't know Allen was hurt bad.

Likewise Taylor & Hodge

Do MM & TT like to play this close to the vest like NE maybe?

[MJZiggy]

I know he said Hodge was hurt during the game but didn't report it 'til after. I didn't even know Taylor was hurt. I don't know about them keeping it that tight. M3 does go over the injury list every press conference.

[Joemailman]

Its possible that the school of thought is to release him now in the hopes that someone picks him up this season. That way his cap figure applys completely to this season and not next.

Someone will pick him up. Right or wrong he was cut. I am glad he's gone. He just wasnt cutting it. We had 2 DB's to replace him in TC, but they were both hurt. They are both near healthy now, so lets move on and see what we have.

Zool has a good point, I'm sure TT considers the money they are wasting on Carroll. They can pay Bush or Dendy a lot less to screw up. I don't think Blackmon is good to go yet, but I'm guessing since MM mentioned Bush & Dendy.

I think McCarthy said in his press conference that he is hoping to have Blackmon back after the bye week.

[SkinBasket]

Two other things of note in todays JSO edition:

Perceived as mouthy, immature and not nearly as good as he portrayed himself to be by many on the outside, cornerback Ahmad Carroll was nonetheless a popular player among many of his fellow defensive backs in the Green Bay Packers locker room.

Not really the sign of a guy with an attitude problem.

The player who stands to gain the most from Carroll's release for now is Patrick Dendy.

The 6-foot, 190-pounder out of Rice was promoted to the active roster on Wednesday and immediately stepped into the nickel with the No. 1 defense. He also saw some time in the slot, a spot that Charles Woodson has been holding down to date...

In regards to his ankle:

"It's going to be sore but it's not hurting me," he said.

This was our plan? To bypass the other CBs on the roster and push a PS guy with Glenn Robinson syndrome into what amounts to our starting line-up? Can't wait to see how big Bulger's eyes are going to be Sun.

[KYPack]

Bush & Dendy have played ball before, but not in the NFL. These are the youngest of the young and this is like running out into rush hour traffic

You are only half right. Dendy was on the Packers active roster for the final 8 games last year and played in 4 games. He was a game day inactive the other four. He was on the practice saquad the first 8 games.

4 games and two tackles are under Dendy's belt, but he's a rookie to me, bud.

[swede]

Carroll = scapegoat, pure and simple. I admit that the guy may never have panned out, but given the blown coverages and huge plays given up by others in the secondary, the cutting of Carroll doesn't seem to be based on any consistently applied criteria.

I agree. Who doesn't call for accountability? I do. But, as bad as Carroll was, his poor play wasn't unexpected, was it? Instead of making TT and MM look tough, it continues to polish up a perception among some that they really don't know what they're doing. ( I don't agree with that sentiment but this move serves up some ammunition for that viewpoint. )

Don't get me wrong. I'm not crying that Carroll is gone, but to me the move seems impulsive and somewhat desperate. Like a boss that gets a bad quarterly report and runs around the plant firing people until he feels better.

[Patler]

Bush & Dendy have played ball before, but not in the NFL. These are the youngest of the young and this is like running out into rush hour traffic

You are only half right. Dendy was on the Packers active roster for the final 8 games last year and played in 4 games. He was a game day inactive the other four. He was on the practice saquad the first 8 games.

4 games and two tackles are under Dendy's belt, but he's a rookie to me, bud.

However, he was with the team the entire year last year, and practiced with the active 53 for a full half season. He is not near the neophyte that a true rookie is. He knows what is demanded of nfl players over the course of a full season, etc, etc. The speed of the game is not completely foreign to him.

There was all kind of complaining last year when Thomas was released too. Half said it should have been Carroll. Others made the same arguments about "demoting" him and keeping him around for ST and "just in case". All the Packer had was inexperienced players, etc. etc. etc. Little was already out at the time.

Instead, Horton ( a virtual rookie) played, Hawkins (a rookie) played, Dendy (a rookie) played, Underwood (a rookie) played. Those were the guys that came in for nickel and dime. Did anyone even miss Thomas?

[Harlan Huckleby]

i didn't see this posted elsewhere,

did Carroll sign anywhere yet?

[Bretsky]

i didn't see this posted elsewhere,

did Carroll sign anywhere yet?

Nobody claimed him; don't think he's signed anywhere yet.

[Freak Out]

"This was our plan? To bypass the other CBs on the roster and push a PS guy with Glenn Robinson syndrome into what amounts to our starting line-up? Can't wait to see how big Bulger's eyes are going to be Sun."

Could be another very long game on D this week. Bulger throwing and Big Jack ramming it down the Packers thoats. Get them to 3rd and blitz big!

[superfan]

With the tight coverage, ball deflection against the lions that Manuel returned for a TD.

I'd like to know the Vegas odds of Carroll deflecting a pass to Manuel returned for a TD. 1,000 to 1? Higher? Hard to conceive that happening in any scenario.