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    MONDAY, Oct. 23, 2006, 1:32 p.m.
    Worth the wait
    Sometimes it pays off to be patient with players. Sometimes they don't hit their stride until after four, five years in the league.

    A case in point is tight end David Martin.

    Martin teased the Packers with his potential for four years, but never stayed healthy and never really produced until last season. This year, he's making a solid contribution again. On his 13-yard touchdown pass against Miami, he showed good body control to make a shoestring catch. He also made an outstretched catch of a pass down the seam for 18 yards on the Packers’ first scoring drive.

    He's much more of a down-field threat than former No. 1 draft pick Bubba Franks.

    MONDAY, Oct. 23, 2006, 1:28 p.m.
    Pickett continues his solid play
    Defensive tackle Ryan Pickett has been the most consistent of the Packers’ off-season, free agent acquisitions. He had another good game Sunday.

    On Miami’s first possession, Pickett played off a double-team block and assisted on the tackle as Ronnie Brown was held to no gain. In the second quarter, on the play before Nick Barnett’s interception, Pickett hustled from the backside, despite being initially knocked to the ground, and ran down Brown to hold him to a three-yard gain on a first-down play. Later in the second quarter, Pickett held the point against center Rex Hadnot, then went under him and dumped Brown for a mere one-yard gain.

    In the second half, Pickett hustled down field to tackle wide receiver Wes Welker and hold him to a one-yard gain on a short pass. He also hit quarterback Joey Harrington just as he delivered the ball on a 13-yard pass to tight end Randy McMichael.

    MONDAY, Oct. 23, 2006, 1:26 p.m.
    Dendy an upgrade - so far
    There were those around the league who questioned the Packers’ decision to cut Ahmad Carroll for the simple reason that the Packers didn’t appear to have anybody any better, or even as good, to take his place.

    But cornerback Patrick Dendy, Carroll’s replacement, has had back-to-back solid games. Against Miami, Dendy ran stride for stride with wide receiver Marty Booker to break up a deep ball, broke up a slant pass to rookie wide receiver Derek Hagan and maintained tight coverage on another pass to Hagan, all in the game’s final 18 minutes.

    MONDAY, Oct. 23, 2006, 1:25 p.m.
    Ahman Green's play
    The second offensive play of the game Sunday signaled that running back Ahman Green was healthy and ready to play. Green stiff-armed defensive end Jason Taylor in the backfield - after Taylor had beaten left tackle Daryn Colledge to the inside - and turned what should have been a loss into a four-yard gain.

    Green’s 70-yard touchdown run was his longest since a 90-yard run against Dallas on Oct. 24, 2004. And Green’s 100-yard plus effort was only his second in his last 14 games. The other was in this year’s season opener against Chicago.

    MONDAY, Oct. 23, 2006, 1:23 p.m.
    Henderson's status
    Fullback William Henderson was healthy and able to play Sunday. He was inactive, in part, because the Packers preferred to go with younger players on special teams. That and he has lost his starting job to Brandon Miree.

    MONDAY, Oct. 23, 2006, 1:20 p.m.
    Praise for Colledge
    Coach Mike McCarthy said that tackle Daryn Colledge, despite his early struggles against Jason Taylor in pass protection, played well Sunday against Miami. McCarthy said the tackles, Colledge and Mark Tauscher, played better than the guards, Jason Spitz and Tony Moll.

    MONDAY, Oct. 23, 2006, 1:17 p.m.
    Shortage at receiver
    The Packers were running more tests today on wide receiver Greg Jennings, but coach Mike McCarthy said at his Monday press conference that Jennings might miss Sunday's game against Arizona. Jennings injured his ankle Sunday against Miami.

    McCarthy also said that wide receiver Robert Ferguson could be out for an extended period and was a candidate for the injured reserve list.

    As a result, the Packers are considering adding a wide receiver to the roster.

    FRIDAY, Oct. 20, 2006, 9:44 a.m.
    Insight from a fan
    Jeff Schleusner is a Packer Insider subscriber and a fan who gets it. Here's part of a recent email he sent:

    "... I'm blown away how one or two stars can completely change a defense.

    "If the Bears didn't have (Brian) Urlacher and (Tommie) Harris, they'd be an average defense and an average team. Harris almost singlehandedly won the game at Minnesota with his penetration and forced fumble in the fourth quarter.

    "Looking across the Packers' roster, they don't have a competetive/athletic mismatch at any single position. The Bears have Urlacher and Harris, but also have a pair of DE's who are mismatches in about half the games (they) play. On the offensive side, Muhammad appears to be a physical mismatch against most of the CB's he'll play against this year.

    "Javon Walker was the only guy who was a surefire mismatch for the Pack, and he's gone. ..."

    Since then, Urlacher made the biggest play in the Bears' win over Arizona. That's why playmakers matter. Without Urlacher and Harris, the Bears are no better than 4-2, if that.
    more freedom, less government. Go Sarah!

  • #2
    Cliff is one of the better ones at gathering the correct stats. Gotta give him that. I actually agree with him on most things--except that it takes 5 years to rebuild. It better not in today's NFL or you'll be rebuilding again. Your young players will becoming FAs at that time. I really think they are in year one of the rebuilding process--just for the simple fact that I don't think they thought last year was a total rebuilding year. Injuries hurt their chances at competing, and I think Thompson saw the writing on the wall.
    "There's a lot of interest in the draft. It's great. But quite frankly, most of the people that are commenting on it don't know anything about what they are talking about."--Ted Thompson

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    • #3
      How odd that all his thoughts on the game follow exactly what M3 discussed in his press conference. Seemingly pretty much in order...
      "Greatness is not an act... but a habit.Greatness is not an act... but a habit." -Greg Jennings

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      • #4
        As a result, the Packers are considering adding a wide receiver to the roster.
        considering???????/

        are you f'cking kidding me?

        you damn well better bring in a wr

        if jennings is out you'll have, driver, our #5 up till last week, and a guy that was on the practice squad until this week

        even with jennings healthy, YOU HAVE TO BRING IN A DECENT WR!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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        • #5
          Re: Cliff Christl, thoughts on the game

          Originally posted by motife

          MONDAY, Oct. 23, 2006, 1:23 p.m.
          Henderson's status
          Fullback William Henderson was healthy and able to play Sunday. He was inactive, in part, because the Packers preferred to go with younger players on special teams. That and he has lost his starting job to Brandon Miree.
          End of an era.
          C.H.U.D.

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          • #6
            They already did that. Shaun Bodiford.
            "Greatness is not an act... but a habit.Greatness is not an act... but a habit." -Greg Jennings

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            • #7
              Originally posted by MJZiggy
              They already did that. Shaun Bodiford.
              not good enough

              not even close

              once again tt goes and makes it look like he has absolutely no desire to win anytime soon

              when you have a gm that acts like that, then why the hell should the players even try?

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              • #8
                Get me closer. Who should he have gotten?
                "Greatness is not an act... but a habit.Greatness is not an act... but a habit." -Greg Jennings

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                • #9
                  David Boston is available.
                  more freedom, less government. Go Sarah!

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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by motife
                    David Boston is available.
                    him

                    why can't we bring in him for a look?

                    even some complete unknown guy thats been in the league for 3 years and has never had a catch

                    just someone other then an undrafted rookie

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                    • #11
                      Isn't Boston one failed test from a yearlong suspension? Do you think it's wise to have that happen twice in one year?
                      "Greatness is not an act... but a habit.Greatness is not an act... but a habit." -Greg Jennings

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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by MJZiggy
                        Isn't Boston one failed test from a yearlong suspension? Do you think it's wise to have that happen twice in one year?
                        k-rob had already used up his last strike when we signed him

                        why not do it again

                        IF the guy can help in the time he's here, i don't plan on any guy that we sign at this point to be a long term solution to our problems. i see them with the team for the rest of the year, and thats it. even if he's just a rookie

                        is charles rodgers still out there? you can't tell me he wouldn't be a decent #3 or #4

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                        • #13
                          Rogers is still out there; apparent questions about his character though. But it doesn't hurt to bring him in and we did sign KRBO (who I like) with character issues.

                          B
                          TERD Buckley over Troy Vincent, Robert Ferguson over Chris Chambers, Kevn King instead of TJ Watt, and now, RICH GANNON, over JIMMY JIMMY JIMMY LEONARD. Thank you FLOWER

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                          • #14
                            Yeah, let's get rogers and boston. Apparently the rest of the NFL is sleeping on those two.

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                            • #15
                              Originally posted by Tyrone Bigguns
                              Yeah, let's get rogers and boston. Apparently the rest of the NFL is sleeping on those two.
                              I suspect we, on this message board, have caught onto something that the General Managers of all 32 NFL teams have missed. Anyone have Ted Thompson's phone number?
                              </delurk>

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