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  • #31
    Re: Trade Up For Peterson?!?

    Originally posted by motife
    Originally posted by Partial
    Rumor has it Packers are in love with Peterson and are going to trade up to #8 to get him. WSSP was talking about it all day Friday afternoon.

    How would you feel about this?

    It would probably be like trading up for Cedric Benson. btw. Ahman Green had more yards than Cadillac Williams this year.

    Drafting RB's in the top 10 has rarely paid off.
    I don't doubt that. I don't want the trade to happen, either. Costs too much for a team with too many holes. Peterson is going to be special, though.

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    • #32
      Originally posted by PackerPro42
      I highly doubt that the Packers would trade up to get a RB like Peterson when he doesn't fit the system and is injury prone. If they're going to get a RB in the first I would rather see Lynch.
      I thought you liked Peterson. Also, how does Lynch fit the system better than Peterson. If you ask me it's the other way around.
      "I've got one word for you- Dallas, Texas, Super Bowl"- Jermichael Finley

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      • #33
        The general feeling here is that the Texans, who passed on Bush and got burned big time, are going to give away Peterson (assuming he is there) when they have no RBs of any ability. No way they pass on Peterson.
        All hail the Ruler of the Meadow!

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        • #34
          Originally posted by BallHawk
          If I had a choice of trading up to the top 10 at the price of our 1st rounder I'd say no. This is a deep draft and we need depth more than playmakers, IMO.
          This draft is very top heavy, not deep. The talent really drops after about the 3rd-4th round, most "experts" say anyway.
          "I firmly believe that any man's finest hour, the greatest fulfillment of all that he holds dear, is that moment when he has worked his heart out in a good cause and lies exhausted on the field of battle - victorious." - Vince Lombardi

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          • #35
            Garrett Wolfe in the 5th! Sorry.

            I wouldn't trade up for Peterson, and of course, TT wouldn't either. I doubt Thompson will even stay at 16. I figure we'll be picking in the mid-20's, so Irons could certainly be the pick.

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            • #36
              Originally posted by SD GB fan
              werent we so in love with reggie bush as well? i dont remember him playing at lambeau cept in week 2 last season.
              QFT
              There's no doubt that Thompson & Co. are leaking misinformation at this point. They did it last year. They'll do it this year. If someone hears it being blabbered about all day on the radio at this time of the year, my money would be on the side that says Marshawn Lynch, or some other back is the real target.

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              • #37
                Why is everyone so enamored with Marshawn Lynch? What does he bring to the table that RB by committee has shown it can't do? I've seen Denver make the playoffs with some average backs at best.

                Our running game sucked because our OL was inexperienced and they would use minimum eight men in the box against us. Get a deep threat and watch as the running game steadily improves.

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                • #38
                  Originally posted by Partial
                  Why is everyone so enamored with Marshawn Lynch? What does he bring to the table that RB by committee has shown it can't do? I've seen Denver make the playoffs with some average backs at best.

                  Our running game sucked because our OL was inexperienced and they would use minimum eight men in the box against us. Get a deep threat and watch as the running game steadily improves.
                  Actually, I think if we took a poll of this forum the majority would be AGAINST taking Marshawn Lynch. It's just there are some people that talk about him a lot and it does make it seem like people really want Lynch.

                  IMO, Lynch is nothing more than an average RB with a brain damage, who is the product of playing against PAC-10 teams, who focus more on offense than on defense. He really is not that good. Last year the first round picks at RB (excluding Bush at #2) were Laurence Maroney, DeAngello Williams, and Joseph Addai, drafted at #21, #27, and #30, respectively. You could honestly make the arguement that any of those 3 were better picks than Lynch coming out of college, not even using the information we know about them now. Outside of Adrian Peterson, you could argue that none of these backs are deserving of a first round pick. Lynch is very reminiscent of former CAL RB, JJ Arrington. If we are to address RB in this draft I would prefer we do it in the late 1st round or 2nd round with players like Bush, Irons, and Hunt.
                  "I've got one word for you- Dallas, Texas, Super Bowl"- Jermichael Finley

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                  • #39
                    You have to take into consideration the source. Radio sports is about as credible as if I said it. They need something to talk about and to get people to start calling in. Sometimes they hit on something, but 90% of the time, they are talking out their ass.
                    Originally posted by 3irty1
                    This is museum quality stupidity.

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                    • #40
                      Originally posted by BallHawk
                      Originally posted by Partial
                      Why is everyone so enamored with Marshawn Lynch? What does he bring to the table that RB by committee has shown it can't do? I've seen Denver make the playoffs with some average backs at best.

                      Our running game sucked because our OL was inexperienced and they would use minimum eight men in the box against us. Get a deep threat and watch as the running game steadily improves.
                      Actually, I think if we took a poll of this forum the majority would be AGAINST taking Marshawn Lynch. It's just there are some people that talk about him a lot and it does make it seem like people really want Lynch.

                      IMO, Lynch is nothing more than an average RB with a brain damage, who is the product of playing against PAC-10 teams, who focus more on offense than on defense. He really is not that good. Last year the first round picks at RB (excluding Bush at #2) were Laurence Maroney, DeAngello Williams, and Joseph Addai, drafted at #21, #27, and #30, respectively. You could honestly make the arguement that any of those 3 were better picks than Lynch coming out of college, not even using the information we know about them now. Outside of Adrian Peterson, you could argue that none of these backs are deserving of a first round pick. Lynch is very reminiscent of former CAL RB, JJ Arrington. If we are to address RB in this draft I would prefer we do it in the late 1st round or 2nd round with players like Bush, Irons, and Hunt.

                      BINGO!

                      And trading up for Peterson would be a step shy of retarded. We gots to too many position needs to simply throw away a high second round pick on a guy who has overrated speed. The rest of his game is nice, but not worth two picks. Not even close. Unless it was a 1st and a 5th, but that won't move a team 8 spots up in the 1st round obviously.
                      "You're all very smart, and I'm very dumb." - Partial

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                      • #41
                        I just spent a moment channeling TT in an "in my head" interview, and this is how he responded:

                        Q: Ted, are you considering moving up in the draft to get Adrian Peterson or anyone else?

                        TT: I think in most situations you're better off letting the draft come to you. Most teams are really looking for a lot more in terms of draft picks than you'd want to give up in order to move up a few spots. I wouldn't say I'd never move up to get a special player, but it's the other teams that really don't allow it to happen.

                        Q: Ted, do you think you'll move down a few spots this year?

                        TT: Again, you have to let the draft come to you. If a player we really want is there we'll take him when our pick comes around. If there are a few guys we really like and we feel like there's a good chance of picking up a couple of guys that will help our team we'd strongly consider moving down. We won't be giving the pick away, though. We'd be looking for value and we'd want to be pretty sure the guys we want would still be there when we pick again.

                        Q: One last question, Ted. Who do you think you'll pick if you stay in the 16th spot?

                        TT: Good try.
                        [QUOTE=George Cumby] ...every draft (Ted) would pick a solid, dependable, smart, athletically limited linebacker...the guy who isn't doing drugs, going to strip bars, knocking around his girlfriend or making any plays of game changing significance.

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                        • #42
                          Originally posted by BallHawk
                          Originally posted by Partial
                          Why is everyone so enamored with Marshawn Lynch? What does he bring to the table that RB by committee has shown it can't do? I've seen Denver make the playoffs with some average backs at best.

                          Our running game sucked because our OL was inexperienced and they would use minimum eight men in the box against us. Get a deep threat and watch as the running game steadily improves.
                          Actually, I think if we took a poll of this forum the majority would be AGAINST taking Marshawn Lynch. It's just there are some people that talk about him a lot and it does make it seem like people really want Lynch.

                          IMO, Lynch is nothing more than an average RB with a brain damage, who is the product of playing against PAC-10 teams, who focus more on offense than on defense. He really is not that good. Last year the first round picks at RB (excluding Bush at #2) were Laurence Maroney, DeAngello Williams, and Joseph Addai, drafted at #21, #27, and #30, respectively. You could honestly make the arguement that any of those 3 were better picks than Lynch coming out of college, not even using the information we know about them now. Outside of Adrian Peterson, you could argue that none of these backs are deserving of a first round pick. Lynch is very reminiscent of former CAL RB, JJ Arrington. If we are to address RB in this draft I would prefer we do it in the late 1st round or 2nd round with players like Bush, Irons, and Hunt.
                          I like to play devil's advocate as I am sure you can tell. Average back? Nah, he's pretty good. He reminds me a lot of Maroney actually, who you can tell will be a very good player. Lynch and Arrington don't seem very similiar to me at all. Lynch is much faster and shiftier.

                          I don't want Lynch or Peterson. I'd rather they resign Ahman for a year or two and get a late round back. I would much rather have them land Bowe and Olson in rounds 1 and 2 if at all possible, unless a phenominal talent is available at either of those spots. I think Safety is deep enough that you can land a pretty darn good player in the third. Definitely someone capable of stepping in a being a starter, if not that then a solid back-up and special teams contributor. It certainly won't be Merriweather, but there are plenty of good safeties this year.

                          I think the addition of a good tight end that can stretch the field and a big target who is strong enough to beat jams and tall enough to catch the inaccurate favre deep pass will do wonders for the running game.

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                          • #43
                            Originally posted by Zool
                            You have to take into consideration the source. Radio sports is about as credible as if I said it. They need something to talk about and to get people to start calling in. Sometimes they hit on something, but 90% of the time, they are talking out their ass.
                            LISTEN ASSHOLE, I WILL PUNCHASIZE YOUR FACE. I TRUST THE GARY AND THE CLIFF!!!

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                            • #44
                              In the words of Hogans Heroes....YOU KNOW NOSINGK
                              Originally posted by 3irty1
                              This is museum quality stupidity.

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                              • #45
                                Originally posted by SkinBasket
                                Originally posted by BallHawk
                                Originally posted by Partial
                                Why is everyone so enamored with Marshawn Lynch? What does he bring to the table that RB by committee has shown it can't do? I've seen Denver make the playoffs with some average backs at best.

                                Our running game sucked because our OL was inexperienced and they would use minimum eight men in the box against us. Get a deep threat and watch as the running game steadily improves.
                                Actually, I think if we took a poll of this forum the majority would be AGAINST taking Marshawn Lynch. It's just there are some people that talk about him a lot and it does make it seem like people really want Lynch.

                                IMO, Lynch is nothing more than an average RB with a brain damage, who is the product of playing against PAC-10 teams, who focus more on offense than on defense. He really is not that good. Last year the first round picks at RB (excluding Bush at #2) were Laurence Maroney, DeAngello Williams, and Joseph Addai, drafted at #21, #27, and #30, respectively. You could honestly make the arguement that any of those 3 were better picks than Lynch coming out of college, not even using the information we know about them now. Outside of Adrian Peterson, you could argue that none of these backs are deserving of a first round pick. Lynch is very reminiscent of former CAL RB, JJ Arrington. If we are to address RB in this draft I would prefer we do it in the late 1st round or 2nd round with players like Bush, Irons, and Hunt.

                                BINGO!

                                And trading up for Peterson would be a step shy of retarded. We gots to too many position needs to simply throw away a high second round pick on a guy who has overrated speed. The rest of his game is nice, but not worth two picks. Not even close. Unless it was a 1st and a 5th, but that won't move a team 8 spots up in the 1st round obviously.
                                What is Peterson turns into a perennial pro-bowler? Ala LT. The type of back that can turn a team's fortune and outlook around. Remember, Ron Wolfe tried his hardest to trade up in the first round to land Brian Urlacher because he knew he'd be a special player.

                                If TT thinks AP can turn the franchise around and is an AAA prospect, then he will make the trade no questions asked and will bite the bullet and take the criticism from the fans, knowing that if his gut was right the fans will be eating crow and he will have a superstar ( reminds me of Philly taking DMac and the crowd booing the selection of their saving grace ) . TT said the most important lesson he learned from the Wolfe is that you cannot be afraid to make a mistake.

                                I could see him doing it.

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