Favre wants Moss?

[Charles Woodson]

If you have any doubts about my feelings of Randy Moss wearing the Green and Gold, there is NO WAY I want him joinng the Packers!

I certainly want the Packers to win but not at the risk of bringing a canerous lesion to the locker room.

OPF

OPF wouldnt u like to see Brett get a shot at the SB?

imo Moss makes that A BIG reality.

[oregonpackfan]

If you have any doubts about my feelings of Randy Moss wearing the Green and Gold, there is NO WAY I want him joinng the Packers!

I certainly want the Packers to win but not at the risk of bringing a canerous lesion to the locker room.

OPF

OPF wouldnt u like to see Brett get a shot at the SB?

imo Moss makes that A BIG reality.

Sure, I want Brett and the Packers to perform better next year, even the prize of the Super Bowl!

Many teams have to put up with individual players of questionable character. They do so to help the team achieve the goal of winning.

There is a line, however, where players of questionable character can decisively tear a team apart. Randy Moss, IMO, is one such player. "If you play with fire, you are going to get burned." If the Packers choose to have Moss play with them, he will burn the team.

OPF

[Oscar]

I think Moss would fit in with the Pack. However, I feel that Driver is and will continue to our #1 receiver. There will have to be some adjustments made no matter who T.T. brings in. I also think the young guys..Jennings, Holiday, and Martin have the potential to continue to grow into the system. Who knows about Robinson.. I can't see T.T. trading for Moss. If he does, fine... If not, thats fine too..

[]{ilr]3]

I dont want the Packers to be like the Dallas Turdboys and pick up a pile of shit that did everything possible to offend/violate the team, fans and stadium when he played against them.

It didnt work in Dallas and it wont work here. He will destory every team he plays for just like TO.

[Scott Campbell]

If you have any doubts about my feelings of Randy Moss wearing the Green and Gold, there is NO WAY I want him joinng the Packers!

I certainly want the Packers to win but not at the risk of bringing a canerous lesion to the locker room.

OPF

OPF wouldnt u like to see Brett get a shot at the SB?

imo Moss makes that A BIG reality.

I wish some of you would give more weight to character.

[BobDobbs]

I think that many fans care about their team winning and that is a reality. As a result character does not place highly on the priority list. I think though that chemistry is something that really should be considered.

I honestly have never considered Randy Moss to be a terrible character guy. I think alot of what shadowed him was Laurence Phillips. He was drafted the year before Moss and was a psychopath. Phillips dragged a woman down flights of stairs by her hair. Moss beat up a kid who called him the N word while in high school and failed a drug test for smoking weed. As far as the NFL goes Moss doesn't rank near the lower ranks of Character. There is no trail of violence, weapons, drug dealing, hired hitmen, etc....

However, he is terrible for team chemistry and has proved that. He is selfish, surly, and intentionally attacks teammates and coaches through the media. He has proved this without a doubt. When things go bad he makes it worse. The Packers Superbowl team went through a losing streak, before recovering. You must overcome adversity to be a Champion. He has not shown this capacity.

Lastly, his ability should rightly be questioned at this point. I'm reading that with a bunch of offensive weapons we are Superbowl bound. Moss may not be the same player who torched the Packers regularly. His last great year was 2003. Then he had two decent years and then a terrible year this past season.
The argument could be made that Oakland was horrible and self-destructing. It is a tough call. But, he played a part is that implosion, that is important. Chad Johnson had great years when Cinncinati was terrible. Sterling Sharpe had great years during the Lindy Infante era. They were on bad teams but they were dominating players and could not be denied.

The only way I want to see Randy on the team is an Andre Rison situation where he is brought in during a Super Bowl run as a short term Mercenary. Wow that was a little long winded I'd better go get a little whisky in me.

Thank you and Good Night

[BobDobbs]

Feels so nice I'll say it twice. Ah the sublime joys of the double post

[HarveyWallbangers]

However, he is terrible for team chemistry and has proved that. He is selfish, surly, and intentionally attacks teammates and coaches through the media.

I think a lot of your points are great, and I agree with the gist, but I don't think he's attacks his teammates that badly through the media. He gets frustrated when his team is losing, but generally his teammates like him. I don't think a lot of what he has said about his teammates are much worse than others players. Is it worse than Brett showing up his receivers after they run a poor route with his theatrics? A lot of it is heat of the moment. He can be surly. I think Moss is really competitive (in a way that Allen Iverson is competitive), and losing takes its toll on him. I think he's the type of guy that on a winning team and with a QB he respects can be a hell of an asset. Unlike Terrell Owens. Your other point is correct too. He's not the same Randy Moss. I still think he can be a Pro Bowl player, 1000 yard receiver, etc. However, he's not the freak he used to be.

[Charles Woodson]

If you have any doubts about my feelings of Randy Moss wearing the Green and Gold, there is NO WAY I want him joinng the Packers!

I certainly want the Packers to win but not at the risk of bringing a canerous lesion to the locker room.

OPF

OPF wouldnt u like to see Brett get a shot at the SB?

imo Moss makes that A BIG reality.

I wish some of you would give more weight to character.

Because i want Brett to go out on top...
So because tank johnsons gun charges tore his team apart?
I think that just because of the fact that he was a viking is the only reason most of you dont want him. I remember when TO was cut most of you wanted him, and dont even tell me for a minute that Moss is worse than TO. I mean just give Favre moss and let Brett spread the feild out. When teams respect your passing game as a whole (not just Driver) it opens up a whole nother world and your running game can be effective. I just want moss so Brett can go out on top. Im not saying that Just moss will do it i mean we need to add some talent in other areas but another Big time reciver will really set us apart.

[mmmdk]

If it helps bringing Moss to GB then trade KGB (and his contract) plus a 4th rounder (maybe a 5th instead) to Raiderland for Moss.

[Bretsky]

I think KGB still is a valuable part of our team; he can serve as a pass rushing specialist that we don't have and be effective at it.

I'm torn on Moss; at one time there was no way I'd condone bringing him in.

But I'd have no problem with it now. I want to win now.

The Packer desperately need another weapon at WR to go along with Driver and Jennings. I do believe Moss is far better then anybody we'll get in round 3 so the deal itself makes sense and we have a ton of money under the cap where that would not hurt us much.

On the other hand, I can't believe TT would bring Moss in.


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[Patler]

On the other hand, I can't believe TT would bring Moss in.

B

Why? He brought in an overpriced, frequently injured underperforming malcontent in Woodson. He brought in a character risk in Robinson. I look at Moss as different, but no more of a risk than either of those two.

There is nothing to suggest that TT will not bring in any player that he thinks can help, and that can be signed without longterm salary cap concerns.

[Bretsky]

On the other hand, I can't believe TT would bring Moss in.

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Why? He brought in an overpriced, frequently injured underperforming malcontent in Woodson. He brought in a character risk in Robinson. I look at Moss as different, but no more of a risk than either of those two.

There is nothing to suggest that TT will not bring in any player that he thinks can help, and that can be signed without longterm salary cap concerns.

My first assumption, fair or not, is that Moss will not take much of a pay cut or any. Unless TT is sitting on a huge wad of cash after spending hardly anything late in free agency like he was with Woodson, I'd be surprised if he'd take on that salary.

Secondly, I'm not convinced TT will give up draft picks for a proven player to win bit in the short term. I'll be fine if I'm wrong, but I don't see him giving up what he needs to via draft picks for Randy Moss.

[Joemailman]

If he could get Moss for a 3rd round pick he might do it. Getting Moss would release TT from Having to use another high draft pick on a WR. Here's a scenario. TT trade down in the 1st round to about 25 and picks up that team's 1st and 2nd. He now has a 1st and 2 2nd's. He trades the later 2nd for 2 3rd's.
He now has Randy Moss to solidify the WR position, and 4 picks in the first 3 rounds to shore up the DB/RB/TE positions. Stranger things have happened.

[Bretsky]

If he could get Moss for a 3rd round pick he might do it. Getting Moss would release TT from Having to use another high draft pick on a WR. Here's a scenario. TT trade down in the 1st round to about 25 and picks up that team's 1st and 2nd. He now has a 1st and 2 2nd's. He trades the later 2nd for 2 3rd's.
He now has Randy Moss to solidify the WR position, and 4 picks in the first 3 rounds to shore up the DB/RB/TE positions. Stranger things have happened.

Any way we could convince TT to let you be the Trading GM on draft day; I love that scenario.

If we don't get Moss at 16, I'm thinking more and more a trade down would work well. I want them to go WR in round one; Jarrett, Bowe, Meecham, Rice........they'd all work and one will be there around pick 25. Probably not Jarrett, but the last three could fall.