Favre wants Moss?

[Brando19]

Favre announced his return = a very very happy time for me because we get one more year of #4 under center and I know the Pack has a shot at the Playoffs.

TT trading a 3rd round draft pick for Randy Moss = Me even happier than before and my friends finally convinced the Pack has a shot at the Playoffs and beyond.

[mmmdk]

I think KGB still is a valuable part of our team; he can serve as a pass rushing specialist that we don't have and be effective at it.

I'm torn on Moss; at one time there was no way I'd condone bringing him in.

But I'd have no problem with it now. I want to win now.

The Packer desperately need another weapon at WR to go along with Driver and Jennings. I do believe Moss is far better then anybody we'll get in round 3 so the deal itself makes sense and we have a ton of money under the cap where that would not hurt us much.

On the other hand, I can't believe TT would bring Moss in.


B

Really? - (about TT not going for Moss)?

With Favre back; it's all about WIN NOW.That's why Favre's back - to win and I want Favre to end on the highest note possible (playoffs and who know what will happen then).

[Bretsky]

I think KGB still is a valuable part of our team; he can serve as a pass rushing specialist that we don't have and be effective at it.

I'm torn on Moss; at one time there was no way I'd condone bringing him in.

But I'd have no problem with it now. I want to win now.

The Packer desperately need another weapon at WR to go along with Driver and Jennings. I do believe Moss is far better then anybody we'll get in round 3 so the deal itself makes sense and we have a ton of money under the cap where that would not hurt us much.

On the other hand, I can't believe TT would bring Moss in.


B

Really? - (about TT not going for Moss)?

With Favre back; it's all about WIN NOW.That's why Favre's back - to win and I want Favre to end on the highest note possible (playoffs and who know what will happen then).

I truly hope I am wrong; remember when Favre announced last year I thought it was all about "win now" too. I was letdown some by TT not filling more holes with the 38MIL he had.

This year I'm taking a much more conservative approach and hoping to get some pleasant surprises.

B

[green_bowl_packer]

The plot thickens . . .

From profootballtalk.com

http://www.profootballtalk.com/rumormill.htm

POSTED 12:10 p.m. EST, February 4, 2007

MOSS TO PACK?

There have been increasing rumors that the Packers might make a move for Raiders receiver Randy Moss. The most concrete evidence of the possibility came earlier today, when ESPN's Chris Mortensen included the rumblings within one of his Sunday NFL Countdown reports.

We can't see this happening, for three reasons.

First, "I play when I wanna play."

Moss uttered this infamous phrase in 2001, and we distinctly recall (but we can't find a link to) a pointed reaction from Favre along the lines of "I wouldn't put up with that kind of sh-t here."

Moss hasn't changed. Unless Favre has, this marriage wouldn't work.

Maybe Favre has changed. After all, he was boo-hooing for Koren Robinson last year after Robinson was suspended for a year due to his inability to stay away from alcohol.

Second, remember Moss pretending to show his ass to the folks at Lambeau Field two years ago? Does anyone really think that the Cheeseheads are clamoring for him?

Third, we can hear Moss right now. "Why do I catch passes from some old man?"

So if this one happens, we'll be shocked.

[Patler]

I was letdown some by TT not filling more holes with the 38MIL he had.

You keep bringing this up, and I have a real hard time understanding it. In 2006 TT:

changed 3 of the top 6 O-linemen
brought in a new starting WR
brought in a new punter
exchanged an older high priced kicker for a young, cheap one nearly as good.
replaced an older, unhappy, health risky DT with a solid younger DT
totally revamped the linebackers except Barnett, including a possible future star
redid the entire DB, including backups, except Harris and Collins, signed a Pro-Bowler.

Including Wells, there were new starters at 5 of 11 offensive positions
With Jenkins, there were new starters at 6 of 11 defensive positions
There was a new punter
There was a new placekicker
There was a new punt returner.

TT put in a maomth effort to turn this team around. Wells, Colledge, Spitz, Jennings, Pickett, Hawk, Poppinga, Woodson and Ryan all were improvements from the 2005 players they replaced. All but Woodson and Pickett should be expected to improve in 2007. Miree and Rayner, while not necessarily improvements, were not steps backward and should provide stability longer than the players replaced. Each filled a hole before the hole became a problem. Manual was no worse than Roman. TT wasn't directly responsible for the shift of Jenkins, but by further fortifying the DTs he made the switch possible.

I think TT made a significant move to get back to the playoffs. Not all of them will be the answer at their position, but this team was so far away that one or two more high-preiced FAs would not have been the answer either.

[BallHawk]

It's a high risk, high reward move. I'm really torn on it. He could come in and show his form from his Minnesota days. On the other hand, he could come in and be a cancer. If we made the move I'd be OK with it, but if we didn't make the move I'd be OK with it, also.

[Packnut]

Moss

Kinda tough to see Moss in green and gold. However, a motivated Moss could make a difference. A lot of variables go into this one. Trading a 3 or 4 is no big deal. Money is a big deal. I can't see paying Moss what he makes now. Ya know, if TT just woulda paid Walker the damn money, we would'nt be going through this now.............

[esoxx]

TT won't do this deal b/c unlike comparisons to Woodson & Robinson, a Moss deal would involve a trade, and TT ain't giving up any draft picks. We wouldn't have Woodson if draft picks were involved either.

Comparing Woodson/Robinson's situation to Moss is apples to oranges.

[MadtownPacker]

Third, we can hear Moss right now. "Why do I catch passes from some old man?"

Cuz like moss said himself on MNF "this Favre, Breeettt Faavvvrreee, I gots to see this".

[Patler]

TT won't do this deal b/c unlike comparisons to Woodson & Robinson, a Moss deal would involve a trade, and TT ain't giving up any draft picks. We wouldn't have Woodson if draft picks were involved either.

Comparing Woodson/Robinson's situation to Moss is apples to oranges.

I think it depends on the pick, or picks. I doubt he would give up a 1 or 2 for him on a straight trade, but he might trade down with Oakland as part of a Moss deal. For example, would he trade a second round pick for Moss and a 4th or 5th round pick? Would he trade his 1st for Moss and Oakland's second, or third?

A lot of this will depend on how badly Oakland wants to get rid of Moss.

[MadtownPacker]

I like your thinking Patler!!

The question also needs to be how bad does Moss want out of OAK? He will have to redo his contract to make it work for the trading team.

[HarveyWallbangers]

Maybe Favre has changed. After all, he was boo-hooing for Koren Robinson last year after Robinson was suspended for a year due to his inability to stay away from alcohol.

This PFT guy is such a dickweed Vikings fan from West Virginia. Favre boo-hooed how suspended players are handled--not the fact he got suspended. What a fuckin' jerkwad.

[packers11]

Third, we can hear Moss right now. "Why do I catch passes from some old man?"

Cuz like moss said himself on MNF "this Favre, Breeettt Faavvvrreee, I gots to see this".

haha I remember seeing a video on youtube of him saying that...
"THIS IS BRETT FAVRE, I GOTTA SEE THIS, ITS BRETT FAVRE!"

[Scott Campbell]

I was letdown some by TT not filling more holes with the 38MIL he had.

You keep bringing this up, and I have a real hard time understanding it. In 1996 TT:

changed 3 of the top 6 O-linemen
brought in a new starting WR
brought in a new punter
exchanged an older high priced kicker for a young, cheap one nearly as good.
replaced an older, unhappy, health risky DT with a solid younger DT
totally revamped the linebackers except Barnett, including a possible future star
redid the entire DB, including backups, except Harris and Collins, signed a Pro-Bowler.

Including Wells, there were new starters at 5 of 11 offensive positions
With Jenkins, there were new starters at 6 of 11 defensive positions
There was a new punter
There was a new placekicker
There was a new punt returner.

TT put in a maomth effort to turn this team around. Wells, Colledge, Spitz, Jennings, Pickett, Hawk, Poppinga, Woodson and Ryan all were improvements from the 2005 players they replaced. All but Woodson and Pickett should be expected to improve in 2007. Miree and Rayner, while not necessarily improvements, were not steps backward and should provide stability longer than the players replaced. Each filled a hole before the hole became a problem. Manual was no worse than Roman. TT wasn't directly responsible for the shift of Jenkins, but by further fortifying the DTs he made the switch possible.

I think TT made a significant move to get back to the playoffs. Not all of them will be the answer at their position, but this team was so far away that one or two more high-preiced FAs would not have been the answer either.

Once again - well done Patler. I'd only add that he did all of this without mortgaging the teams ability to compete for players in the future.

[Scott Campbell]

I was letdown some by TT not filling more holes with the 38MIL he had.

You keep bringing this up, and I have a real hard time understanding it. In 1996 TT:

changed 3 of the top 6 O-linemen
brought in a new starting WR
brought in a new punter
exchanged an older high priced kicker for a young, cheap one nearly as good.
replaced an older, unhappy, health risky DT with a solid younger DT
totally revamped the linebackers except Barnett, including a possible future star
redid the entire DB, including backups, except Harris and Collins, signed a Pro-Bowler.

Including Wells, there were new starters at 5 of 11 offensive positions
With Jenkins, there were new starters at 6 of 11 defensive positions
There was a new punter
There was a new placekicker
There was a new punt returner.

TT put in a maomth effort to turn this team around. Wells, Colledge, Spitz, Jennings, Pickett, Hawk, Poppinga, Woodson and Ryan all were improvements from the 2005 players they replaced. All but Woodson and Pickett should be expected to improve in 2007. Miree and Rayner, while not necessarily improvements, were not steps backward and should provide stability longer than the players replaced. Each filled a hole before the hole became a problem. Manual was no worse than Roman. TT wasn't directly responsible for the shift of Jenkins, but by further fortifying the DTs he made the switch possible.

I think TT made a significant move to get back to the playoffs. Not all of them will be the answer at their position, but this team was so far away that one or two more high-preiced FAs would not have been the answer either.

Once again - well done Patler. I'd only add that he did all of this without mortgaging the teams ability to compete for players in the future.