Manning, No MVP

[prsnfoto]

I agree that a SB MVP is not that important, I guess I would have liked to see one of the backs get it but so what, one thing you all are forgetting is Manning was horrible 50% of this years post season average 25% and good 25% had it not been for his kicker,defense and running game they don't get to the SB. All the Favre bashers would be stringing him up for 7 picks. As far as the Favre debate goes I have no problem with Howard getting the MVP or all the Reggie love but, Favre was 90% of why they got there,no player on that team had a 1000 yards yet 6 had over 500 hence he was season MVP. Has that ever happened weren't they the #1 offense that year with no 1000 yard player. The next year Howard was gone, Reggie was not the same, and the Offense was firing strong on all cylinders, but it was not enough and as many people have tried to persuade me Favre lost the SB they are wrong Reggie and the defense lost that SB they couldn't stop TD if their lives would've depended on it. The good FUCKING news the Bear trolls are gone and they still suck.

[esoxx]

But coming in and catching 13 passes for 135 yards while playing 5 games and starting 4 games didn't produce much of an impact in the passing game. I stand by my opinion that but for his Super Bowl TD, many Packer fans would have forgotten already that Andre Rison was on the team.

Probably so, but that Super Bowl TD was a pretty big deal, setting the tone.

He was a nice compliment to the offense. His bigger impact came in the post-season where in three games he had 143 yards and two TD's.

[HarveyWallbangers]

The point was to argue whether Rison contributed to the Super Bowl, but to point out that he wasn't anywhere near what he used to be, and to claim Favre's WRs that year were "very good" was a dramatic overstatement. Rison didn't do anything with Cleveland or Jacksonville the 1 1/2 years prior to that. He didn't do much after that. He looked solid in Green Bay because he had a QB who was playing MVP caliber ball. Favre is the one who recognized the coverage on that TD and audibled to that play. He said he saw San Fran audible to that play earlier in the day when he was watching replays of previous Super Bowls. His offensive personnel wasn't bad, but it was primarily because of him that the offense scored the most points that year. That offense certainly didn't have overwhelming offensive talent like some of the other mint offenses in history. He had a barely above average OL, great TEs, solid RBs, and average WRs. The reason they were #1 was because of their MVP QB.

[Patler]

His bigger impact came in the post-season where in three games he had 143 yards and two TD's.

I don't mean to dismiss the significance of that one play, because it was a very significant play in the Super Bowl. But again, if you take away the one play, he had 6 receptions for 89 yards in 3 games. A solid performance, but not one that would have burned itself in the memories of the average fan (although most GB fans are anything but "average"!)

Signing Rison probably helped some, but I don't know that in the end it really meant all that much. As I recall, he also had something like 3 fumbles (I'm too lazy to verify that) in his 8 games in GB. Again, it made for a nice story, and simply adds to the myths and folklore surrounding the Packers, but the significance of his signing has been inflated over the years, in my opinion.

[Patler]

Favre is the one who recognized the coverage on that TD and audibled to that play. He said he saw San Fran audible to that play earlier in the day when he was watching replays of previous Super Bowls.

I heard something that also gave Rison a lot of credit for that play too, and as I recall, it was something like this: Favre made the audible call, which should have meant that he would go to Freeman. Freeman either missed the call, or misread the defense and his route adjustment. Rison saw that, and altered his route to get to where Freeman should have been. It was something like that.

[b bulldog]

Rison brought back the swagger to the O and allowed Free more space.