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  • #16
    Moss

    I've gone back and forth on this Moss thing. At first, I thought it was just an idle rumor, but it is picking up steam and just might be for real. If we can take advantage of Oakland like Denver did to us then TT should go for it.

    If all they want is a 3 and Ferguson, or Holliday or Martin, then go for it. Moss would NEVER say or do anything to piss Brett off so his "attitude" is a non factor.

    Moss has his pride and he knows what is being said about him. It is possible a motivated Moss coming back to the NFC North could do some damage with a good QB. There are also 2 huge benefits that need to be noted here. First, ANYTHING that will ease up the double coverage on DD is a major plus. 2nd, Jennings as a #3 WR would take the pressure off of him and give the kid a chance to learn. I like the thought of Jennings going up against the D's nickel back. He should win that battle 90% of the time.

    Another possible benefit is IF Moss makes a difference, Favre comes back for 2008 when I expect us to make a run at a SB IF TT does his job.

    As far as the down-side of this, Moss also has the ability to be a cancer but I think he knows this is his last chance. The other point made about what he has left in the tank is a valid question. As much as most of us hated him, the man had some serious talent. It would be hard to believe that talent has vanished.

    PULL THE TRIGGER TT!

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    • #17
      i can't see any negatives here

      we're only giving up a third round pick, you know tt will find a way to get more. and a guy who is going to be cut anyways

      we get a guy thats highly motivated to produce

      and a guy who has said its been his dream to play with favre

      and this is the guys last real chance

      if he acts up, we cet rid of him, with NO cap hit

      all that for the chance to get a guy that was one of the elites in the game just a couple years ago, and could be an enormous help to this offense

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      • #18
        Favre is back - GET RANDY MOSS. Plus, I seriously doubt Raiders would take Fergy - Fergy is an expensive BUST. Maybe Martin or Holiday.

        Favre needs weapons on offense and we only have DD and Green to some extend. Jennings is a bonafide # 3 WR and could be the # 2 guy when DD steps down. GB has no TE, none. We need playmakers and Moss is NOT over the hill.
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        • #19
          Originally posted by KYPack
          Moss was always Mr Vertical, but now he seems to be more of a hook inside reciever. We got a couple of guys like that, we need a burner. Moss' burner seems about out.
          I saw some of the raider games last season and there where plenty of times when moss sped downfield waving for the ball only to see the QB gets sacked. He still has it and if put in the right situation will be deadly again.

          Green Bay is the right situation.

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          • #20
            Originally posted by MadtownPacker
            Originally posted by KYPack
            Moss was always Mr Vertical, but now he seems to be more of a hook inside reciever. We got a couple of guys like that, we need a burner. Moss' burner seems about out.
            I saw some of the raider games last season and there where plenty of times when moss sped downfield waving for the ball only to see the QB gets sacked. He still has it and if put in the right situation will be deadly again.

            Green Bay is the right situation.
            Yup, listen to madtown - MOSS NOT DONE AT ALL. GET HIM OR FAVRE COMES BACK FOR NAUGHT.
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            • #21
              The thing that worries me about Moss is that we are only a few seasons removed from when the Vikings had to institute the "Randy Ratio" in order to maintain his interest in the game. With Driver on the other side, could GB meet the "Randy Ratio"???

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              • #22
                Originally posted by prsnfoto
                I have no problem getting Moss if he restructures his contract but I find these reports funny because we all have heard TT say Brett has no say in personal so now that this has been leaked he looks like a puss if he does it. Course he did stand up several times and lie to us that there were no deadlines for Brett's decision and now we find out the SB was the deadline. All these guys have a future in politics.
                Where did you read this SB deadline stuff?
                As far as Moss goes I only see Granny getting rid of Moss if he is really starting to be a problem. The Raiders are going to have a shot at a very good QB in the draft or they could make a run at Garcia. Garcia brings that team to 8-8 right off that bat and with that defense maybe better. I would love to see Moss come to GB and play with old #4 for a year but if it is going to cost us a high draft pick or a starter forget it. His contract is massive this year correct?
                C.H.U.D.

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                • #23
                  Originally posted by Patler
                  The thing that worries me about Moss is that we are only a few seasons removed from when the Vikings had to institute the "Randy Ratio" in order to maintain his interest in the game. With Driver on the other side, could GB meet the "Randy Ratio"???
                  I can't argue Moss isn't a great WR, but his baggage is to much. The Randy Ratio is the same as the T.O. Ratio in my opinion. I could see this Randy Moss thing working out while we still have Favre here to throw the laser guided bombs we all know he can throw. But what happens after Favre retires, and Randy Moss is still here? If Aaron Rogers struggles, Moss could Rip this team apart at the seams-ala T.O. in philly-
                  To much of a good thing is an awesome thing

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                  • #24
                    Originally posted by Jpoppinga
                    Originally posted by Patler
                    The thing that worries me about Moss is that we are only a few seasons removed from when the Vikings had to institute the "Randy Ratio" in order to maintain his interest in the game. With Driver on the other side, could GB meet the "Randy Ratio"???
                    I can't argue Moss isn't a great WR, but his baggage is to much. The Randy Ratio is the same as the T.O. Ratio in my opinion. I could see this Randy Moss thing working out while we still have Favre here to throw the laser guided bombs we all know he can throw. But what happens after Favre retires, and Randy Moss is still here? If Aaron Rogers struggles, Moss could Rip this team apart at the seams-ala T.O. in philly-
                    This is where a reworked contract would come in to play. Give him his chunk up front.
                    Originally posted by 3irty1
                    This is museum quality stupidity.

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                    • #25
                      Originally posted by Patler
                      The thing that worries me about Moss is that we are only a few seasons removed from when the Vikings had to institute the "Randy Ratio" in order to maintain his interest in the game. With Driver on the other side, could GB meet the "Randy Ratio"???
                      Dare I challenge Patler?? This is gonna end up like Al Harris (Patler) on a 4th string WR (me) but here goes..

                      In 2004 walker aned Driver both had 1000+ yds and a bunch of TDs between them. Favre haas always been excellent at spreading the ball to everyone so I dont see this hurting DDs production, in fact I see it increasing since he wont be triple covered every passing down.

                      Moss had his best seasons with chris carter opposite of him. Im sure DD could provide the same for Moss and likewise.

                      This deal goes down and the Super Bowl talk will begin.

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                      • #26
                        Originally posted by MadtownPacker
                        Originally posted by KYPack
                        Moss was always Mr Vertical, but now he seems to be more of a hook inside reciever. We got a couple of guys like that, we need a burner. Moss' burner seems about out.
                        I saw some of the raider games last season and there where plenty of times when moss sped downfield waving for the ball only to see the QB gets sacked. He still has it and if put in the right situation will be deadly again.

                        Green Bay is the right situation.
                        I was wondering what you thought.

                        The game I saw him play was all turn-ins and turn-outs.

                        If he can go deep, it's a thinker. I don't think AD would take Ferg. Even Davis isn't that burned out. It would take Martin and a 3rd.

                        Shit, you'd almost have to take it at that price. If Moss is done, that would be a blow to our progress, ya know.

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                        • #27
                          Originally posted by KYPack
                          The game I saw him play was all turn-ins and turn-outs.
                          Was that a late season game? If so by that point in the seaon the raiders realized their Oline sucked and the QB had no time to go downfield so they started dinking and dunking because that was the only way the could nove the ball.

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                          • #28
                            Originally posted by Zool
                            Originally posted by Jpoppinga
                            Originally posted by Patler
                            The thing that worries me about Moss is that we are only a few seasons removed from when the Vikings had to institute the "Randy Ratio" in order to maintain his interest in the game. With Driver on the other side, could GB meet the "Randy Ratio"???
                            I can't argue Moss isn't a great WR, but his baggage is to much. The Randy Ratio is the same as the T.O. Ratio in my opinion. I could see this Randy Moss thing working out while we still have Favre here to throw the laser guided bombs we all know he can throw. But what happens after Favre retires, and Randy Moss is still here? If Aaron Rogers struggles, Moss could Rip this team apart at the seams-ala T.O. in philly-
                            This is where a reworked contract would come in to play. Give him his chunk up front.
                            i disagree, i think

                            i don't know if i would want to do anything to his contract. unless its a roster bonus only

                            no signing bonus

                            we have the cap room to keep him at his current number and can cut him when we want with no strings attached

                            if this is favres last year, you can cut him after the season, or trade him and get your picks back

                            in one year with favre his trade value should go back up

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                            • #29
                              Originally posted by KYPack
                              It would take Martin and a 3rd.

                              Yikes. I believe we need a TE even more than we need a burner WR. Or did you mean Ruvell instead of David?

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                              • #30
                                I'm wondering if Al Davis reads the Packer fan forums ? We should be saying. . . no way can we loose RF.

                                After all. This will be his season to shine, don't YOU know?

                                I just read through this thread and I'm salivating at any reality of Randy Moss to us for just a third and who ??? Robert 'no show' Ferguson

                                That can't be, unless the Raiders are trying to dump salary to recover on their CAP number.

                                Anybody checking the Raider fan sites for verification?
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