David Carr for a 4th rounder??

[MadtownPacker]

Just saw on NFL Network (the best NFL coverage ever) that the texans are looking to trade Carr and will seek a 2nd to 4th round pick for the former #1 overall selection.

Gotta say this move is really stupid by the texans considering the crap team they surrounded him with, mainly the OL. This guy has the arm, the size, and the heart. It was unfair to bring him into a POS expansion team and expect him to excel. Now they want to kick him to the curb. i hope they do trade him and then proceed to become like the bengals of yesterday (the ones that sucked but didnt get arrested).

As a Fresno St fan and someone who watched Carr during his entire time there I would be delighted if TT was to make a move for him. Then the QB situation would be prepared for when Favre retires but I have a feeling he may end up a bear which would make them alot better on O.

[FritzDontBlitz]

i'd give up a 4th for carr in a second. he's definitely an upgrade over rodgers.

[PaCkFan_n_MD]

Yep, Carr is underrated IMO. He's never played that bad and is on a horrible team. Hell Favre wouldn't have done much better with that O. If Carr and Rodgers were behind Favre I would feel a lot better about our QB situation.

[wist43]

He'd definitely be an upgrade over Rodgers, but that's not saying much...

I think his delivery is a fatal flaw... the only side arm slinger I can think of that had a chance to light the league up was Jeff George. But of course he had a 10 cent head.

I could see Carr as a backup, or a stop gap starter... certainly never going to go to a SB with him under center.

[Packnut]

Carr

It's impossible to judge him when he's never had any talent around him.

[MadtownPacker]

I think his delivery is a fatal flaw...

I could see Carr as a backup, or a stop gap starter... certainly never going to go to a SB with him under center.

Yes his throw is a lil sidearmed but I dont recall highlights of his throws getting tipped. Just a bunch of lowlights of his OL letting the defense jailbreak on his ass nearly every play.

If the bears went to the SB with grossman a team can surely get there with Carr.

[MJZiggy]

I read something last season about him being a little shellshocked and giving up the sack rather than evading. Is that true? and how do you fix it if it is?

[SkinBasket]

I could see Carr as a backup, or a stop gap starter... certainly never going to go to a SB with him under center.

People said the same about Rex Grossman, Trent Dilfer, Stan Humphries, Neil O’Donnell, and Chris Chandler and somehow they made it. I would certainly take Carr over any of those guys in the years they took their teams to the SB including this year's iteration of Sexy Rexy.

[Freak Out]

No......let him go somewhere else. I think he has been ruined by the incompetent bunch that drafted him.

[MadtownPacker]

how do you fix it if it is?

You get him a OL!!

I think the Tony Bosselli failure really doomed Carr. The texans pinned all their hopes on Bosselli anchoring the OL and being a veteran presence for the team. If I recall correctly he never played a down for them.

[MJZiggy]

I mean if he 's overly shell shocked, it's more of a mental problem and he has to get the ghost pass rushers out of his head. How does he get rid of the ghosts that aren't really there?

[MadtownPacker]

IHow does he get rid of the ghosts that aren't really there?

Vicadin and Oxycotin.

[cpk1994]

I could see Carr as a backup, or a stop gap starter... certainly never going to go to a SB with him under center.

People said the same about Rex Grossman, Trent Dilfer, Stan Humphries, Neil O’Donnell, and Chris Chandler and somehow they made it. I would certainly take Carr over any of those guys in the years they took their teams to the SB including this year's iteration of Sexy Rexy.

Yeah, but what do all of them but one have in common? THEY LOST!!!!!!!!
And Trent Dilfer got his win because of the defense; he just managed not to do anything stupid.

[wist43]

I could see Carr as a backup, or a stop gap starter... certainly never going to go to a SB with him under center.

People said the same about Rex Grossman, Trent Dilfer, Stan Humphries, Neil O’Donnell, and Chris Chandler and somehow they made it. I would certainly take Carr over any of those guys in the years they took their teams to the SB including this year's iteration of Sexy Rexy.

Yeah, but what do all of them but one have in common? THEY LOST!!!!!!!!
And Trent Dilfer got his win because of the defense; he just managed not to do anything stupid.

That's exactly my point in being critical of the current Packers offensive system... It's completely QB dependent. I'd much rather go to a system in which the QB is more along for the ride - and, if we happen to stumble on to another Favre, then great, adjust from there.

I don't think Carr can carry a team all the way, and that's what the Packers system calls for their QB to do... like I said, I see him as a backup or a stop gap.

[MJZiggy]

IHow does he get rid of the ghosts that aren't really there?

Vicadin and Oxycotin.

What the hell, why not? It's worked for Packer QB's in the past...
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