David Carr for a 4th rounder??

[BallHawk]

I personally think Rodgers will be a very solid QB in the Packers system and I think that we shouldn't give up on him just yet.

Is there a chance that Rodgers could be successful? Of course. Is it likely? Hell no.

And people, you give David Carr way to little credit. Even with a team that had absolutely no running game and no passing game, he still put up a 82.1 passer rating.

I don't get where you're coming from here. Like I said before, Rodgers has had no chances to prove himself and I think it's a little premature to say that he's not going to be a good player. So you have no proof for saying he'll be a flop. Saying he won't be successful is like saying Matt Leinart and Vince Young won't be successful. I mean, there's always a bust factor with any player, but if we don't give them a chance we'll never know. I don't think that getting rid of a first rounder after no playing time is a very wise move.

It's not so much that Rodgers hasn't had a lot playing time, it's that brief playing time that he has shown nothing. He's had bad mechanics, bad footwork, he's shown no confidence, he hasn't shown one thing that instills confidence in me.

Also, what bad would giving Rodgers some competition do? If a 4th round pick is all they want, then who would you rather have? David Carr or Cory Rodgers?

[KYPack]

I miss the ol' "play Craig Nall" posts.

[PackerPro42]

I personally think Rodgers will be a very solid QB in the Packers system and I think that we shouldn't give up on him just yet.

Is there a chance that Rodgers could be successful? Of course. Is it likely? Hell no.

And people, you give David Carr way to little credit. Even with a team that had absolutely no running game and no passing game, he still put up a 82.1 passer rating.

I don't get where you're coming from here. Like I said before, Rodgers has had no chances to prove himself and I think it's a little premature to say that he's not going to be a good player. So you have no proof for saying he'll be a flop. Saying he won't be successful is like saying Matt Leinart and Vince Young won't be successful. I mean, there's always a bust factor with any player, but if we don't give them a chance we'll never know. I don't think that getting rid of a first rounder after no playing time is a very wise move.

It's not so much that Rodgers hasn't had a lot playing time, it's that brief playing time that he has shown nothing. He's had bad mechanics, bad footwork, he's shown no confidence, he hasn't shown one thing that instills confidence in me.

Also, what bad would giving Rodgers some competition do? If a 4th round pick is all they want, then who would you rather have? David Carr or Cory Rodgers?

I don't disagree with you here, but I also think that when a player comes into the league, there is an adjusting period. With his lack of playing time, I think that it just is a matter of experience before he starts lighting it up. You can't expect to throw him in with the lions and expect him to be successful right away. It's just going to take him a couple more times to get it down. I think the last thing you want to do with him is give up.

[the_idle_threat]

I personally think Rodgers will be a very solid QB in the Packers system and I think that we shouldn't give up on him just yet.

Is there a chance that Rodgers could be successful? Of course. Is it likely? Hell no.

And people, you give David Carr way to little credit. Even with a team that had absolutely no running game and no passing game, he still put up a 82.1 passer rating.

I don't get where you're coming from here. Like I said before, Rodgers has had no chances to prove himself and I think it's a little premature to say that he's not going to be a good player. So you have no proof for saying he'll be a flop. Saying he won't be successful is like saying Matt Leinart and Vince Young won't be successful. I mean, there's always a bust factor with any player, but if we don't give them a chance we'll never know. I don't think that getting rid of a first rounder after no playing time is a very wise move.

It's not so much that Rodgers hasn't had a lot playing time, it's that brief playing time that he has shown nothing. He's had bad mechanics, bad footwork, he's shown no confidence, he hasn't shown one thing that instills confidence in me.

Also, what bad would giving Rodgers some competition do? If a 4th round pick is all they want, then who would you rather have? David Carr or Cory Rodgers?

I don't disagree with you here, but I also think that when a player comes into the league, there is an adjusting period. With his lack of playing time, I think that it just is a matter of experience before he starts lighting it up. You can't expect to throw him in with the lions and expect him to be successful right away. It's just going to take him a couple more times to get it down. I think the last thing you want to do with him is give up.

My biggest concern about Rodgers, and it has been mentioned previously in this thread, is that he doesn't seem to have a feel for the pass rush. He doesn't "see" it coming. Combine that with the fact that---like many inexperienced QBs---he holds the ball too long because his read and recognition skills aren't fully developed, and the result is that he gets slaughtered. As I think this is an instinct rather than a learned skill, and Rodgers seems not to have it, I don't see good things in Rodgers' future in terms of durability.

[MacCool606]

I think a major factor in how a QB develops in the pros is the quality of his coaching. If you have seen the DVD that came in the Favre book, and I'm sure most of you have - I didn't think the coaching staff in Atlanta the year Brett was drafted was very good. Brett didn't blossom, and I'm guessing that he never would have, had he not been traded to a team that had a very qualified coaching staff, and a Coach that was known to develope QB's.

Based on that, I think that Rogers first year was basically a lost year. I look at last year, after he went through MM's offseason QB school to be his first year. And, if you do that, I think he has some potential.

For some reason, I could never figure out what qualified Bevell to be a QB coach.

[Fritz]

I could see Carr as a backup, or a stop gap starter... certainly never going to go to a SB with him under center.

People said the same about Rex Grossman, Trent Dilfer, Stan Humphries, Neil O’Donnell, and Chris Chandler and somehow they made it. I would certainly take Carr over any of those guys in the years they took their teams to the SB including this year's iteration of Sexy Rexy.

Yeah, but what do all of them but one have in common? THEY LOST!!!!!!!!
And Trent Dilfer got his win because of the defense; he just managed not to do anything stupid.

You think we can draft a better QB than Carr for a 3rd or 4th? No one's giving up a 2 for him. That's what it comes down to for me, and I really don't think we could find a better rookie, who may need to be ready next year, with a 4th.

It would be great to find someone better, but if you haven't noticed, there aren't a lot of options. I don't think Manning or Palmer will be available for a 3rd or 4th.

No, not someone who could be ready next year, but from what I'm hearing, Drew Stanton from Mich State may be available in the third. I'd rather have him as a third stringer this year, try to develop him, then let him compete with Rodgers after Favre retires.

[Guiness]

It's debatable, but when Rodgers was in the running to be the first pick, I don't think that you can give up on him.

The prevailing thought is that he was being considered in name only, in an attempt to get Smith's asking price down. Which they were unsuccessful in doing, I might add.

If either Smith or Rodgers had been in the '06 draft, they would've been the fourth QB taken, and probably not even in the first round.

Not saying that makes Rodgers bad. Just that you have to put his '1st round pedigree' with an astericks after it.