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  • #31
    quit blaming anyone other than javon walker for javon's situation. he created that fiasco, tt just dealt with it as best he could. until walker becomes a consistent player (consistence being able to put two consecutive seasons of productivity together) we need to stop whining over spilled milk. am i the only one who noticed that denver only won one more game than green bay did? doesnt make javon sound like much of an impact player to me....
    Always respect your opponent, even when you're kicking the crap outta him.

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    • #32
      Originally posted by Patler
      Originally posted by PaCkFan_n_MD

      Were people can argue back and forth about is whether TT should have given him a new deal after the 2004 season. I don't thinkeven you Patler would argue that he wouldn't of signed it then. So the arguement then becomes why did TT give a new deal? Did Harris deserve a deal more than Walker? Walker actually had less years on his contract. You can claim that Harris is more proven, but if you think about it so walker. Each year he got better and better until he blow up. Don't tell me that its a fluke because it didn't come out of no were. And when a player is entering his prime he is should only be expected to get better.
      After the 2004 season? How? By releasing Wahle, not signing Rivera releasing Sharper and releasing Grey Ruggemer from a $1 million salary and re-signing him at the veteran's minimum barely got them under the salary cap prior to the draft, with the rookie allocation figured in. They were only about $200,000 under the cap in April. To have signed Walker to any kind of contract would have required generating additional cap space, because it would not have been generated from his contract.

      If they could have generated cap space, they would have used it for Wahle, or maybe Rivera. But they really had no one significant to renegotiate with. Favre was said to be not elligible for renegotiation that Spring, because of having done it either too recently or too many times within a given period. There are limitations on how often you can renegotiate a player's contract. Most of the other high salary players were in their last years, like Green. To renegotiate his would have required a significant roster or signing bonus, just to give him the cash he was already guaranteed for that year. As a result, little cap space would be gained. Others were so new in their contracts, like KGB, that year, there was very little to gain against the cap. Also, that year the packers had very little payable as roster bonuses that could have been guaranteed so as to amortize over the remaining life of the contract and gain immediate relief in 2005. In short, there was just very little in the way of salary cap relief to be gained prior to signing all the rookies and cutting more veterans.

      Besides, I'm not convinced Walker would even signed it then. As I said before, from just after the 2004 season, his main objective was to lay the groundwork to eventually get out of Green Bay, either immediately or by the time his contract was up. Signing an extension was not what he really wanted. It was just an excuse to develop the controversy needed to get out eventually.
      well said, patler. i just wish the walker worshippers would shut up long enough to listen.
      Always respect your opponent, even when you're kicking the crap outta him.

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      • #33
        As much as I want Green Bay to draft Marshawn Lynch, I think that it would be a mistake to let Green go. Even if he gets 2 million a year opposed to the 1 million he got last year, he'll still be a valuable player to the Packers offense. If they could keep him and get Lynch they would have an excellent one two punch.

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        • #34
          Originally posted by PackerPro42
          As much as I want Green Bay to draft Marshawn Lynch, I think that it would be a mistake to let Green go. Even if he gets 2 million a year opposed to the 1 million he got last year, he'll still be a valuable player to the Packers offense. If they could keep him and get Lynch they would have an excellent one two punch.
          He got 3 mil last year plus another 750k in incentives. He'll get 4.5-5 mil per year ave in his deal or a large sum up front.

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          • #35
            Is that what it was? i guess I was wrong. But regardless, we need to keep him around so GB can breed their back of the future.

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            • #36
              Originally posted by GBRulz
              Sign the man already. He's played out his contract, has never bitched about money and most importantly, he's the best player we've got. You guys talk about him slowing down, but I don't see that at all. I think he did great last year with a below average set of OL.

              This will be TT's third year, it's judgement day...this is no time for him to be continuing to fill positions with NFL-E calibur players. He has plenty of cap room to work with. GET IT DONE, TT !!!!!
              I agree GB, AG was practically in tears last year after being injured and the Packers not offering him a long term deal. He has done everything anyone of us would want a player to do. He played out his contract, never complained, worked hard, good teammate, etc. All he wants is a fair contract, we will not have to overpay to keep him.

              TT will sign him hours before he becomes an UFA.

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              • #37
                Originally posted by GBRulz
                Sign the man already. He's played out his contract, has never bitched about money and most importantly, he's the best player we've got. You guys talk about him slowing down, but I don't see that at all. I think he did great last year with a below average set of OL.

                This will be TT's third year, it's judgement day...this is no time for him to be continuing to fill positions with NFL-E calibur players. He has plenty of cap room to work with. GET IT DONE, TT !!!!!
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