Is Ahman Green worth 23 million over 3 years??!!

[wist43]

- Green is still a hell of a back.

- TT has plenty of cap space.

- There really aren't any other FA's out there he has to get into a bidding war for.

- 4 mil/yr isn't unreasonable... 2 yrs, plus an incentive 3rd year???

However you structure it, signing Green isn't going to strain the cap; but, losing his production out of the backfield could be fatal for the offense.

Everything points toward paying the guy... Just when you think TT has his act together???

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hmmm, i agree with wist on something

i feel very dirty all of a sudden

[woodbuck27]

- Green is still a hell of a back.

- TT has plenty of cap space.

- There really aren't any other FA's out there he has to get into a bidding war for.

- 4 mil/yr isn't unreasonable... 2 yrs, plus an incentive 3rd year???

However you structure it, signing Green isn't going to strain the cap; but, losing his production out of the backfield could be fatal for the offense.

Everything points toward paying the guy... Just when you think TT has his act together???

You can't change the stripes on a tiger (pussy).

[retailguy]

Man is it gonna be hard sitting around waiting for something to happen on this.

It took SIX years for Ted & Holmgren to field a good competitive team in Seattle.

By then, Ahman Green won't matter, so why should he matter now?

Better get comfortable, you are NOT on the bullet train, you is on the Stagecoach....

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he's still better then sherman. even if he does suck and runs this team into the ground

[MadtownPacker]

It took SIX years for Ted & Holmgren to field a good competitive team in Seattle.

Yup and then SEA got to the SB.

I took Sherm 6 years to deplete the Packers.

[wist43]

hmmm, i agree with wist on something

i feel very dirty all of a sudden

Welcome to the dark side, Red...

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hmmm, i agree with wist on something

i feel very dirty all of a sudden

Welcome to the dark side, Red...

when do i get my red light saber?

[HarveyWallbangers]

Man is it gonna be hard sitting around waiting for something to happen on this.

It took SIX years for Ted & Holmgren to field a good competitive team in Seattle.

By then, Ahman Green won't matter, so why should he matter now?

Better get comfortable, you are NOT on the bullet train, you is on the Stagecoach....

Six years to field a competitive team? What are you talking about? He joined Seattle in 2000. They were coming off a 6-10 season. They went 9-7 in 2001, and then made the playoffs in 2003, 2004, 2005, and 2006. It took him five years to field a Super Bowl caliber team. I'd say they were competitive long before 2005.

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Man is it gonna be hard sitting around waiting for something to happen on this.

It took SIX years for Ted & Holmgren to field a good competitive team in Seattle.

By then, Ahman Green won't matter, so why should he matter now?

Better get comfortable, you are NOT on the bullet train, you is on the Stagecoach....

Six years to field a competitive team? What are you talking about? He joined Seattle in 2000. They were coming off a 6-10 season. They went 9-7 in 2001, and then made the playoffs in 2003, 2004, 2005, and 2006. It took him five years to field a Super Bowl caliber team. I'd say they were competitive long before 2005.

Thats exactly right!

[retailguy]

Six years to field a competitive team? What are you talking about? He joined Seattle in 2000. They were coming off a 6-10 season. They went 9-7 in 2001, and then made the playoffs in 2003, 2004, 2005, and 2006. It took him five years to field a Super Bowl caliber team. I'd say they were competitive long before 2005.

Oh for heaven's sake. Harvey this is BULLSHIT. Holmgren started in Seattle in 1998. Yes, Thompson joined later, but doesn't alter the point. 2001 they "lucked" into the playoffs with Kitna at QB, who was RELEASED after the playoff blowout. 2003 & 2004, when they beat up on poor teams did not make this team competitive. I saw three home games each year and those teams WERE A JOKE. Playing in the NFC West, against SF & AZ doesn't make them any more competitive than Green Bay in the North.

2004 might have been competitive, HOWEVER, the playoff loss to the RAMS was a joke. I was at that game, and LEFT at the beginning of the 4th quarter.

Keep writing your "revisionist" history.

[HarveyWallbangers]

Holmgren started in Seattle in 1998. Yes, Thompson joined later, but doesn't alter the point.

This makes NO sense.

[retailguy]

Holmgren started in Seattle in 1998. Yes, Thompson joined later, but doesn't alter the point.

This makes NO sense.

Ok, let me walk you through this VERY slowly. The "philosophy" of building through the draft kept Seattle from being TRULY competitive for multiple seasons. If you look closely at the team, the defense could have benefitted from a COUPLE of players that they did not pursue. The 2004 team had serious defensive problems because the guys they had DID NOT keep the team competitive.

My point was that the PHILOSOPHY slowed the development of the team. I don't give a SHIT who was making the decisions, they DIDN'T WORK. Clear?

[HarveyWallbangers]

What about New England and Pittsburgh. They had similar philosophies. Pittsburgh rarely signs big name FAs, and often let's their big name FAs walk. New England didn't build through FA. They got a couple of guys in trades, but Brady, Branch, Givens, Light, Wilfork, Seymour, Samuel, Bruschi, Vinatieri, McGinest, etc. were all guys they drafted.

[retailguy]

What about New England and Pittsburgh. They had similar philosophies. Pittsburgh rarely signs big name FAs, and often let's their big name FAs walk. New England didn't build through FA. They got a couple of guys in trades, but Brady, Branch, Givens, Light, Wilfork, Seymour, Samuel, Bruschi, Vinatieri, McGinest, etc. were all guys they drafted.

Harvey, it remains to be seen that some holes won't be filled. HOWEVER, considering his history, it is UNLIKELY. I would hate to see this team begin the season with a "few" holes. Some "lower tier' free agents probably works on offense, PROVIDED they pan out. I still have vivid memories of some turnstile guards who didn't work out as planned. Gambling with Ahman Green is just STUPID. There is no other word for it. Not that much money at risk here. If not Green, then get someone in here. Why no interest there?

I remain unconvinced that the defense is up the task. I do think a "name" free agent would help. Thomas, perhaps, however, his price tag is ridiculously high. We need an experienced safety desperately, and I don't understand the lack of interest in Hamlin either. It makes little sense, and just confirms for me that we're in this REBUILDING for several more years.