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  • #46
    Originally posted by red
    Originally posted by Rastak
    Originally posted by imscott72
    Originally posted by Rastak
    Originally posted by imscott72
    I'm not in agreement with giving up Rodgers. I'd rather give up the 3rd and this is coming from someone who hates to give up draft picks. We'd be caught with out pants down if Brett got his ass kicked this year and said I've had enough. Even if we drafted QB in the 1st, he wouldn't be ready by next year, which means we have to sign some stiff off of another team to make due.
    Rodgers hasn't been given a chance to show what he can do yet. We thought Hasselbeck sucked too, until he ended up getting a chance in Seattle.

    I thought they were demanding a 2nd.....
    He can demand all he wants. He was demanding a 1st not too long ago. I wouldn't give up a 2nd for Moss. Make Davis sweat it out...He'll take a 3rd..

    I wouldn't be too sure, he's a senile idiot.


    I'm not sure I'd take a 3rd for a guy I paid a 1 for two years ago.


    On the flip side, I agree that Moss's ability to loaf when he's not 100% happy is legendary so it might be in the Raiders best interests to take what you suggest and let some other poor slob deal with him.
    I know the Vikings loved him but the behind the scenes stuff got worse and worse....and the walk off the field thing was the last straw.



    When I say the behind the scenes stuff, I don't mean bad locker room stuff, he's a great teammate from what I've read but he needles management to no end.
    i agree davis is a senile old idiot.

    but i don't see how they can keep him. he won't play for them, won't talk to the new coaches, and is going to cost you 12 million this year to watch him not do anything

    i think davis HAS to get rid of him before the season, am just not sure if he's smart enough to figure that out.

    if we put a 3rd on the table, he might have to take it at some point, or end up cutting moss to free up cap money so they can sign draft picks and get nothing. of course someone else could them swoop in and make a better offer

    Red, I think I agree with you here. It' quite the balancing act for Oakland. They f'd it up sending a #7 overall and who knows for sure what they can get now. Randy Moss is like that, he makes you lose your mind with what you see as unliited potential. But you wake up and aren't too damn happy with the reality.

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    • #47
      Originally posted by Rastak
      Originally posted by red
      Originally posted by Rastak
      Originally posted by imscott72
      Originally posted by Rastak
      Originally posted by imscott72
      I'm not in agreement with giving up Rodgers. I'd rather give up the 3rd and this is coming from someone who hates to give up draft picks. We'd be caught with out pants down if Brett got his ass kicked this year and said I've had enough. Even if we drafted QB in the 1st, he wouldn't be ready by next year, which means we have to sign some stiff off of another team to make due.
      Rodgers hasn't been given a chance to show what he can do yet. We thought Hasselbeck sucked too, until he ended up getting a chance in Seattle.

      I thought they were demanding a 2nd.....
      He can demand all he wants. He was demanding a 1st not too long ago. I wouldn't give up a 2nd for Moss. Make Davis sweat it out...He'll take a 3rd..

      I wouldn't be too sure, he's a senile idiot.


      I'm not sure I'd take a 3rd for a guy I paid a 1 for two years ago.


      On the flip side, I agree that Moss's ability to loaf when he's not 100% happy is legendary so it might be in the Raiders best interests to take what you suggest and let some other poor slob deal with him.
      I know the Vikings loved him but the behind the scenes stuff got worse and worse....and the walk off the field thing was the last straw.



      When I say the behind the scenes stuff, I don't mean bad locker room stuff, he's a great teammate from what I've read but he needles management to no end.
      i agree davis is a senile old idiot.

      but i don't see how they can keep him. he won't play for them, won't talk to the new coaches, and is going to cost you 12 million this year to watch him not do anything

      i think davis HAS to get rid of him before the season, am just not sure if he's smart enough to figure that out.

      if we put a 3rd on the table, he might have to take it at some point, or end up cutting moss to free up cap money so they can sign draft picks and get nothing. of course someone else could them swoop in and make a better offer

      Red, I think I agree with you here. It' quite the balancing act for Oakland. They f'd it up sending a #7 overall and who knows for sure what they can get now. Randy Moss is like that, he makes you lose your mind with what you see as unliited potential. But you wake up and aren't too damn happy with the reality.
      Is this a change of subject?

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