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  • #31
    I love this quote and it temporarily lifted the dark mood of Green leaving. Even the non-football fan I read this too laughed and they have no idea what a Taco Wallace is.

    Originally posted by retailguy
    Who is the "Taco Wallace" of Running Backs?
    Bud Adams told me the franchise he admired the most was the Kansas City Chiefs. Then he asked for more hookers and blow.

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    • #32
      Originally posted by PaCkFan_n_MD
      It doesn't matter what the texans gave him, because if we just showed him a little love before free agency he wouldnt even have been a free agent.
      I'm sorry, I wasn't privy to Thompson and Green's private negotiations. I didn't know that you were. Can you please explain to me what makes you think this?

      You don't know that Green wasn't dead set on seeing what the price the FA market would put on him, and was only saying "I'd like to stay in Green Bay" in order to milk a mega-deal from Thompson.

      This is a business, Green's objective is to get the most for Ahman. Thompson's objective is to get the most for the Packers, I know whose side I'm on.
      </delurk>

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      • #33
        That is a lot of coin. Could be a year to year deal depending on how the gurantees are set up. If its all upfront, I can see it as to expensive.

        If there are roster bonuses in out years, then we let him get away too easily.

        Originally posted by jconnor99
        The Texans have reached an agreement with their first free agent Green Bay running back Ahmad Green.

        Green, 30, is signing a four-year contract worth $22 million, including $6.5 million in guarantees.

        Green has been one of the most productive running backs in the NFL for the past seven years.

        The former Nebraska running back enjoyed his five best seasons (2000-2004) when Mike Sherman was the Packers head coach. During that period, he never rushed for fewer than 1,163 yards. HIs best season was 2003 when he rushed 1,883 yards and scored 20 touchdowns.

        Green immediately becomes the starter, from a group that includes Wally Lundy, Chris Taylor and Samkon Gado

        The Texans are trying to resign Ron Dayne.

        Green, a no 1. pick by Seattle in 1998, is a ten-year veteran, who rushed for 1,059 yards and scored six touchdowns last season.

        http://www.chron.com/disp/story.mpl/...t/4601378.html
        Bud Adams told me the franchise he admired the most was the Kansas City Chiefs. Then he asked for more hookers and blow.

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        • #34
          Originally posted by jconnor99

          Green, 30, is signing a four-year contract worth $22 million, including $6.5 million in guarantees.
          Actually, 6.5 million in guaranteed money isn't too bad. Say he re-tears his quad two games in. The Texans are only on the hook for his salary for '07 and the signing bonus. Spread out over four years it's quite easily taken care of and isn't going to put a team up against it.

          All and all, pretty good deal for the Texans.

          If Ahman performs and stays healthy, good deal for him too.

          TT's going to face some pretty intense scrutiny over this one.

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          • #35
            Pressure is really on. Denver keeps shuffling backs in and out and gets by. Thompson needs to get the right guy. Maybe Raymont Harris is available.
            Bud Adams told me the franchise he admired the most was the Kansas City Chiefs. Then he asked for more hookers and blow.

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            • #36
              Originally posted by Lurker64
              Originally posted by PaCkFan_n_MD
              It doesn't matter what the texans gave him, because if we just showed him a little love before free agency he wouldnt even have been a free agent.
              I'm sorry, I wasn't privy to Thompson and Green's private negotiations. I didn't know that you were. Can you please explain to me what makes you think this?

              You don't know that Green wasn't dead set on seeing what the price the FA market would put on him, and was only saying "I'd like to stay in Green Bay" in order to milk a mega-deal from Thompson.

              This is a business, Green's objective is to get the most for Ahman. Thompson's objective is to get the most for the Packers, I know whose side I'm on.
              Well he just signed a 4 year 22 mil dollar deal. Just over 5 mil a year, so obviously TT didn't offer him that much or he would taken our deal. I don’t have to be in there private negotiations to know that because GREEN SAID many times that if the packers offer a similar deal that he would sign with us. I would want 3 years over 4 though.
              Draft Brandin Cooks WR OSU!

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              • #37
                Ok, someone get me my valium. I thought I was clear on this one: you pay your own, not someone else's reject. That's two RB's I liked that ended up in Houston. Best of luck to Ahman and I hope TT knows what he's doing...
                "Greatness is not an act... but a habit.Greatness is not an act... but a habit." -Greg Jennings

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                • #38
                  Silverstein has it as $8 million for the first year.

                  Green signs with Houston Texans
                  By TOM SILVERSTEIN
                  tsilverstein@journalsentinel.com
                  Posted: March 4, 2007

                  The Houston Texans made Ahman Green an offer he couldn't refuse, leaving the Green Bay Packers in the dust.

                  Ahman Green will leave Green Bay as the Packers' second all-time leading rusher.

                  Green agreed to terms with the Texans Sunday on a four-year, $23 million contract that an NFL source said will pay Green $8 million in the first year. The deal reportedly consists of $6.5 million in guaranteed money.

                  The Packers were offering far less than that and were leery of offering more than $5 million for the 2007 season. The two sides negotiated throughout the day, but the Packers weren't willing to match Houston's offer and let Green go.

                  Green indicated to Houston reporters Sunday before the deal was announced that it would be hard to leave Green Bay, but apparently the decision was easy when he got wind of the Texans' offer. Undoubtedly, former Packers coach Mike Sherman, who is now the offensive coordinator for the Texans, played a big role in convincing owner Bob McNair to pay such a high price for a 30-year old running back.
                  Bud Adams told me the franchise he admired the most was the Kansas City Chiefs. Then he asked for more hookers and blow.

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                  • #39
                    All that matters is the guarenteed money...

                    $6.5 is nothing... I'm surprised at how much you guys under rate Green.

                    Go back and look at the tapes from last year... had very little running room. Turned 2 yds into 4; turned 4 into 8... The Packers are definitely going to miss his toughness, burst, blocking.

                    He's a damn good back who won't be easy to replace... the Packers definitely took hit by losing him.
                    wist

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                    • #40
                      Originally posted by wist43
                      All that matters is the guarenteed money...

                      $6.5 is nothing... I'm surprised at how much you guys under rate Green.

                      Go back and look at the tapes from last year... had very little running room. Turned 2 yds into 4; turned 4 into 8... The Packers are definitely going to miss his toughness, burst, blocking.

                      He's a damn good back who won't be easy to replace... the Packers definitely took hit by losing him.

                      If they'd have offered him 6.5 for 07 before FA, he'd have never KNOWN that there was 8mil on the table, because he'd have taken it.

                      This is a bad blow for 07... bad...

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                      • #41
                        Originally posted by PaCkFan_n_MD
                        Well he just signed a 4 year 22 mil dollar deal. Just over 5 mil a year, so obviously TT didn't offer him that much or he would taken our deal. I don’t have to be in there private negotiations to know that because GREEN SAID many times that if the packers offer a similar deal that he would sign with us. I would want 3 years over 4 though.
                        I'm just wondering why you think that Green's loyalty to the Packers is stronger than his loyalty to Sherman. Green's best years were all under Sherman. Players regularly accept offers to play for people they know and like which they wouldn't take from other teams. Green played two years with Thompson, and spent half of one of those injured, and only one year with McCarthy and didn't have great success with our running scheme.

                        Maybe Green was insistent about the fourth year, which you and I agree wouldn't have been a good idea. In negotiations like this, you can't take "what people say to the media" at face value, because it's generally a bluff to increase your position at the bargaining table. Eight million for this year (which is money he will see) is an awful lot, I'm not sure I wouldn't have let him walk too.
                        </delurk>

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                        • #42
                          I'm gonna wait until we know what Green got to make my judgment on TT.

                          Mr. Green, good luck and thank you for all you did for this franchise. It's sad to see such a good player go to such a shmuck as Mike Sherman. However, I can see why you made the choice.

                          And me thinks that Travis Henry will be a Packer by Wednesday evening, at the latest.
                          "I've got one word for you- Dallas, Texas, Super Bowl"- Jermichael Finley

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                          • #43
                            When AG accepted a one year deal last year to prove his worth and that he was recovered from injury, that says a lot to me. I don't need the media to say anything, actions speak louder than words.
                            Draft Brandin Cooks WR OSU!

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                            • #44
                              Originally posted by BallHawk
                              I'm gonna wait until we know what Green got to make my judgment on TT.

                              Mr. Green, good luck and thank you for all you did for this franchise. It's sad to see such a good player go to such a shmuck as Mike Sherman. However, I can see why you made the choice.

                              And me thinks that Travis Henry will be a Packer by Wednesday evening, at the latest.
                              4 years 22 mil 6.5 SB
                              Draft Brandin Cooks WR OSU!

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                              • #45
                                This one stings. The fact I'm not enamored with any of the FA RBs or rookie RBs makes it worse.

                                Maybe Marshawn Lynch is the guy.

                                Jamal Lewis is a terrible fit. Travis Henry fumbles even more than Ahman, and he's one incident away from being suspended for the year. Chris Brown is injury prone.
                                "There's a lot of interest in the draft. It's great. But quite frankly, most of the people that are commenting on it don't know anything about what they are talking about."--Ted Thompson

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