Green Signs With Texans

[HarveyWallbangers]

4 years 22 mil 6.5 SB

That's really not a lot of guaranteed money. If it was structured like Fred Taylor's contract, then it was only worth about $4.5-5M/year the first two years.

[falco]

This one stings. The fact I'm not enamored with any of the FA RBs or rookie RBs makes it worse.

Maybe Marshawn Lynch is the guy.

Jamal Lewis is a terrible fit. Travis Henry fumbles even more than Ahman, and he's one incident away from being suspended for the year. Chris Brown is injury prone.

I can't believe TT would risk Lynch not being there at #16 - he's got to sign somebody else and soon.

[BallHawk]

I think loyalty, on both parts, the player and the franchise, didn't play into this as much as we thought.

[HarveyWallbangers]

Screw that! Sounds like the Houston offer was CONSIDERABLY more than Green Bay's offer--maybe $2M/year more. You can't blame Ahman for that. He really sounded like a guy that really wanted to stay, but just couldn't for that much difference.

[cpk1994]

Well he just signed a 4 year 22 mil dollar deal. Just over 5 mil a year, so obviously TT didn't offer him that much or he would taken our deal. I don’t have to be in there private negotiations to know that because GREEN SAID many times that if the packers offer a similar deal that he would sign with us. I would want 3 years over 4 though.

I'm just wondering why you think that Green's loyalty to the Packers is stronger than his loyalty to Sherman. Green's best years were all under Sherman. Players regularly accept offers to play for people they know and like which they wouldn't take from other teams. Green played two years with Thompson, and spent half of one of those injured, and only one year with McCarthy and didn't have great success with our running scheme.

Maybe Green was insistent about the fourth year, which you and I agree wouldn't have been a good idea. In negotiations like this, you can't take "what people say to the media" at face value, because it's generally a bluff to increase your position at the bargaining table. Eight million for this year (which is money he will see) is an awful lot, I'm not sure I wouldn't have let him walk too.

Not to nitpick, but Houston runs the same scheme as the Pack does. Sherman is down there, yes. Kubiak runs the show.

[retailguy]

I think loyalty, on both parts, the player and the franchise, didn't play into this as much as we thought.

LOYALTY? You think this was about loyalty? You can't be serious? This was about making as much money as he can, for the last two or three years of his career...

[FritzDontBlitz]

god this is so fucked up. all ahman wanted was 5 mil, he get's 6.5 GUARANTEED. its a shame ahman has to leave green bay to finally get due compensation for being the great player he was for the pack.

peace out batman, thanks for the memories....

now.

tt should work a trade for thomas jones of chicago. he's damn near the spittin image of ahman green and he's anxious to get out of chicago. besides, can you think of a better way to stick a fork in the bears than by signing away the backbone of THEIR offense to compensate for losing the backbone of OURS? 8)

[Joemailman]

The Bears are not going to trade their #1 running back to a division rival that just lost their #1 running back.

[BallHawk]

The Bears are not going to trade their #1 running back to a division rival that just lost their #1 running back.

Was thinking the same thing.

[Merlin]

I have heard enough of that "play for the money later in your career" crap. Face it, TT was too cheap to resign Green. He has been in the league 10 years and maybe has another 2 good years left in him. TT could have easily from loaded his contract ala Woodson and then brought in a rookie. on paper 23 million seems like a lot but it works out to a big payday this year, mediocre pay the middle years and a balloon at the end.

Not many running backs in the history of the NFL have been as consistant as Green. Sure, his asthma is a concern but we only use the guy from the goaline to the 30 and the 30 to the goaline.

As far as Green's loyalty to the Packers, he was loyal and TT kicked him in the groin. 5 Million after proving he was back with a horrible run blocking oline? Seems like peanuts to me. He won't fair very well in Houston unless they change their offense. He can run over anyone but you have to have holes to run through in the MFL to gain more then 1,000 yards.

Ahman Green would not have signed with Denver but when I heard he was interviewing with Houston, I knew he was as good as gone. You would think because of the success we had in FA last year that TT would open his eyes and realize that Green was an intregal part of the makeup of this team. What next? Morency to the Vikings? Henderson to the Bills? Wait, I know...Brett Favre, Donald Driver, 1st round pick and a conditional 2nd next year for Aaron Brooks.

I will miss Ahman Green and I wish him the best of luck in Houston. I harbor no ill feelings and I am sure he did what he thought was best for him. No faulting a guy for doing that.

Morecny has proven he is good enough to start, I only question whether or not the guy can hang onto the ball. He has good size, speed and hands and he did pick holes in our offense better then Green did. He is a true one cut back. Put some stickum on his hands and get ready for Ahman Green part II.

[Lurker64]

god this is so fucked up. all ahman wanted was 5 mil, he get's 6.5 GUARANTEED. its a shame ahman has to leave green bay to finally get due compensation for being the great player he was for the pack. )

He's getting a 6.5 signing bonus and a salary of 8 million in his first year. That's 14.5 million in his pocket for one year. That sounds like a lot more than the five million that was "all he wanted."

[red]

god this is so fucked up. all ahman wanted was 5 mil, he get's 6.5 GUARANTEED. its a shame ahman has to leave green bay to finally get due compensation for being the great player he was for the pack. )

He's getting a 6.5 signing bonus and a salary of 8 million in his first year. That's 14.5 million in his pocket for one year. That sounds like a lot more than the five million that was "all he wanted."

he wanted a contract that paid him 5 million a year, he got a contract that pays him 5.5 million a year

TT would not give him the 5 million he wanted

and you have your numbers all wrong

he doesn't get 14.5 this year. he gets 8 this year. 6.5 of the contract is guaranteed. meaning thats the bonus money. if its all a signing bonus he gets it all right now, but the cap hit is spread over 4 years. meaning the remainer of that 8 million would be his salary, 1.5 million

his cap number for this year might be about 3.25 million. if thats how his bonus is

it could be a roster bonus, which would cost more against the ap this year.

but the bottom line is he gets a total of 8 million this year. the maximum it would count against the cap is 8 million, the least it would count is around 3.25 million

[retailguy]

god this is so fucked up. all ahman wanted was 5 mil, he get's 6.5 GUARANTEED. its a shame ahman has to leave green bay to finally get due compensation for being the great player he was for the pack. )

He's getting a 6.5 signing bonus and a salary of 8 million in his first year. That's 14.5 million in his pocket for one year. That sounds like a lot more than the five million that was "all he wanted."

He's not getting 8 mil in salary in addition to the bonus. He's getting 8mil TOTAL. That's a salary of 1.5 plus a bonus.... If you stopped trying to spin this favorably and just learned to read and do simple math.... you'd see.

This is screwed up. SCREWED UP. Open your eyes...

[Joemailman]

I have heard enough of that "play for the money later in your career" crap. Face it, TT was too cheap to resign Green. He has been in the league 10 years and maybe has another 2 good years left in him. TT could have easily from loaded his contract ala Woodson and then brought in a rookie. on paper 23 million seems like a lot but it works out to a big payday this year, mediocre pay the middle years and a balloon at the end.

Not many running backs in the history of the NFL have been as consistant as Green. Sure, his asthma is a concern but we only use the guy from the goaline to the 30 and the 30 to the goaline.

As far as Green's loyalty to the Packers, he was loyal and TT kicked him in the groin. 5 Million after proving he was back with a horrible run blocking oline? Seems like peanuts to me. He won't fair very well in Houston unless they change their offense. He can run over anyone but you have to have holes to run through in the MFL to gain more then 1,000 yards.

Ahman Green would not have signed with Denver but when I heard he was interviewing with Houston, I knew he was as good as gone. You would think because of the success we had in FA last year that TT would open his eyes and realize that Green was an intregal part of the makeup of this team. What next? Morency to the Vikings? Henderson to the Bills? Wait, I know...Brett Favre, Donald Driver, 1st round pick and a conditional 2nd next year for Aaron Brooks.

I will miss Ahman Green and I wish him the best of luck in Houston. I harbor no ill feelings and I am sure he did what he thought was best for him. No faulting a guy for doing that.

Morecny has proven he is good enough to start, I only question whether or not the guy can hang onto the ball. He has good size, speed and hands and he did pick holes in our offense better then Green did. He is a true one cut back. Put some stickum on his hands and get ready for Ahman Green part II.

If Morency is as good as you say he is, why are you upset about losing Green? If you have a young, lower paid guy ready to step in for a veteran, doesn't it make sense to let the veteran go, and spend the money somewhere else?

[the_idle_threat]

god this is so fucked up. all ahman wanted was 5 mil, he get's 6.5 GUARANTEED. its a shame ahman has to leave green bay to finally get due compensation for being the great player he was for the pack. )

He's getting a 6.5 signing bonus and a salary of 8 million in his first year. That's 14.5 million in his pocket for one year. That sounds like a lot more than the five million that was "all he wanted."

He's not getting 8 mil in salary in addition to the bonus. He's getting 8mil TOTAL. That's a salary of 1.5 plus a bonus.... If you stopped trying to spin this favorably and just learned to read and do simple math.... you'd see.

This is screwed up. SCREWED UP. Open your eyes...

RG, you're turning into quite a troll lately. Is is a good idea for a moderator to be a troll?

At the very least, your new outlook doesn't match the "Kool-Aid" appellation and avatar.