Perfect Match for WR issue

[MJZiggy]

Hahahaha. I see that valium hasn't reached you yet.

[Scott Campbell]

I'm not negative and I'm not ridiculous.

Of course you're not. And I'm not sarcastic.

[esoxx]

No, TT doesn't like tacos. I wish he were just fasting.

[Brando19]

Jim Thomas, of the St. Louis Post-Dispatch, reports the Green Bay Packers have expressed interest in unrestricted free-agent Kevin Curtis (Rams), but Curtis would prefer not to any make more trips at this point. He has told his new agents, Bruce and Ryan Tollner, that his main objectives are playing for a playoff contender, preferably in a warm-weather city, and to be a starter.

[Bub]

Didn't we already try a Taco named Wallace? This proves TT does have a taste for Tacos. Heck, we were probably the only team in the NFL with a Taco.

[Bub]

This is probably still a long shot, but Curtis would be ok. He'd add some depth and he's a solid 3rd WR. Most likely overpaid though. I'd prefer him over the trash we have at 3rd and above WR.


Packers | Team shows interest in Curtis
Sun, 11 Mar 2007 09:35:49 -0800

Jim Thomas, of the St. Louis Post-Dispatch, reports the Green Bay Packers have expressed interest in unrestricted free-agent Kevin Curtis (Rams), but Curtis would prefer not to any make more trips at this point. He has told his new agents, Bruce and Ryan Tollner, that his main objectives are playing for a playoff contender, preferably in a warm-weather city, and to be a starter.

[RashanGary]

Nice Taco reference Gereski. I think it would be better compared to a car at an auction but the general concept was spot on. Green was overpaid and it looks like Sherman had a big part in that. There was a reason he got fired from Green Bay. He was digging a hole that was obvioulsy very difficult to dig out of. To everyones surprise, Thompson turned it around in 2 years and has alot of money to keep going forward.

This is RG's favorite time of the year because he can pretend like he knows what he's talking about because there is no evidence to back it up untill the next season is played out. For all we know, his FA hopes could be right. For all we know, Ahman Green won't follow the pattern that has been in place for over 30 backs in teh NFL. We do have evidence of how SB teams have been assembled over the last 10 years and multiple stats from posters here as well as national articals have shown UFA to be a very poor way to build and aquire yoru team. Still, RG has the abilty to shout from his mountain top like he knows these guys will help. Why? becuase we don't have 100% factualy basis to show him wrong.

In 9 mos when the season is played out and the pattern of FA's not contributing to winning teams continues RG will disappear and be the quite defensive sherman supporter that he always is. For the next couple weeks just deal with is ignorance and do your best to ignore. Untill he brings examples of SB winning teams who in recent history *last 10 years* built through big FA signings or many FA signings than he lacks all credibily. He's got one little shred to hang on while he shouts from his mountain top. Just ignore it. It will go away when the season starts and the Texans still suck and the Packers get better and better. Sherm can't ride Wolf's coattails in HOuston. He's going to have to do it himself this time. Let's see how the great Sherm influence works when he starts from scratch. TT is starting from scratch too and he's made progress. More than we can say for the TExans isn't it?

Just ignore.

[gureski]

I can't be RG if you're calling me a 'quiet defensive sherman supporter'. YOu must be talking about someone else with the same initials. Guys that really are Sherman supporters would puke if I got on that bus after the fights I've been in over the past two years on Sherman's lack of GM ability.

[Bretsky]

I still didn't like Sherman the GM.

But I do feel he's a better GM now than I thought a year ago...this is partly because of the development of Aaron Kampman and Corey Williams.

I also give him credit for going for it; he may have made some bad FA decisions but he was swinging.

Again, his biggest downfall was continuously falling into the trap of packaging multiple draft picks ....aka....depth.....to move up and draft somebody he normally loved due to need.

[Rastak]

I can't be RG if you're calling me a 'quiet defensive sherman supporter'. YOu must be talking about someone else with the same initials. Guys that really are Sherman supporters would puke if I got on that bus after the fights I've been in over the past two years on Sherman's lack of GM ability.

I think he meant RetailGuy but I'm not sure.....

[retailguy]

Nice Taco reference Gereski. I think it would be better compared to a car at an auction but the general concept was spot on. Green was overpaid and it looks like Sherman had a big part in that. There was a reason he got fired from Green Bay. He was digging a hole that was obvioulsy very difficult to dig out of. To everyones surprise, Thompson turned it around in 2 years and has alot of money to keep going forward.

This is RG's favorite time of the year because he can pretend like he knows what he's talking about because there is no evidence to back it up untill the next season is played out. For all we know, his FA hopes could be right. For all we know, Ahman Green won't follow the pattern that has been in place for over 30 backs in teh NFL. We do have evidence of how SB teams have been assembled over the last 10 years and multiple stats from posters here as well as national articals have shown UFA to be a very poor way to build and aquire yoru team. Still, RG has the abilty to shout from his mountain top like he knows these guys will help. Why? becuase we don't have 100% factualy basis to show him wrong.

In 9 mos when the season is played out and the pattern of FA's not contributing to winning teams continues RG will disappear and be the quite defensive sherman supporter that he always is. For the next couple weeks just deal with is ignorance and do your best to ignore. Untill he brings examples of SB winning teams who in recent history *last 10 years* built through big FA signings or many FA signings than he lacks all credibily. He's got one little shred to hang on while he shouts from his mountain top. Just ignore it. It will go away when the season starts and the Texans still suck and the Packers get better and better. Sherm can't ride Wolf's coattails in HOuston. He's going to have to do it himself this time. Let's see how the great Sherm influence works when he starts from scratch. TT is starting from scratch too and he's made progress. More than we can say for the TExans isn't it?

Just ignore.

I think this is the most stupid post I have ever read on this site, but considering the source I'm really not surprised.

Greg, I don't know why you've decided to "bash" me tonight, it must be the popular thing to do. Anyone in these rooms knows you probably have never had an original thought in your head, I personally don't think you'll ever have an original thought.

Proof will come with time, and unlike you, I'll never leave. You've already had your childish temper tantrum, and it'll be a cold day in hell before I do something so stupid.

I almost feel guilty giving you a hard time, I'm fighting an unarmed man.

[Partial]

You are leading the charge to be ridiculous and I imagine you're loving the support you're getting right now.

Tell me something....

If you and I go to a Mexican restaurant and each of us wants the same thing....say a taco... and that taco costs 99 cents. BUT.. there is only one taco shell sitting there that you and I can see and I jump forward and say I'll pay $20.00 for that taco! The attendant gives me the Taco and takes the $20.00 before turning to you and selling you a soft shell taco for 99 cents. Are the hard shell tacos worth $20.00 now because I bought one for $20.00? Are you an idiot because you didn't offer the cashier $10.00 for the taco before I offerred $20.00? I mean, I'm sure they'd have given you the taco for $10.00 if you'd have just offerred to pay more then the asking price before I offerred $20.00. OR, are you smart because you got a taco for $19.01 cheaper then the one I got and they're basically the same?

The fact is that just because someone is willing to overpay for a product doesn't mean that's the new market value of that item. The item is still worth what it was originally. The restaurant just found a sucker to overpay. They may think about adjusting their price after this but in reality, they know there wont be many takers for $20.00 tacos. In this example, someone just flat-out overpaid.

In the NFL, player value is subjective. Each team values different traits. Each team is at different levels of success and have different needs. How does A.Green get $5.75 million a year over 4 years while J.Lewis can only get a single year deal for $3.5 million? The beauty is in the eye of the beholder. Like the 99 cent taco, Green had a value assigned to him before he ever hit free agency. You can look at past payment history of RB's like Green and project what a player's value is based on multiple factors. Based on Green's factors (athletic ability, history, injury, age,) he had a certain value going into free agency and it wasn't $5.75 million a year. The biggest shock-wave of free agency thus far was Green getting that deal from Houston. He WAS overpaid. Now that Green has his money, the way you view the market shifts but it doesn't shift til AFTER Green got paid. That's how hit works. It wasn't a mistake by Thompson and Green WAS overpaid.

Man. You've claimed I'm NEGATIVE, now you claim I'm RIDICULOUS. I didn't realize that you had the monopoly on being "right".

I'm not negative and I'm not ridiculous. The fact that I disagree with Thompsons approach doesn't make me wrong, it makes me different than he is.

Your $20 taco analysis is FLAWED. Tacos are a consumable item, and once consumed have ZERO VALUE. Ahman Green is a commodity, and his value increases and decreases based on PRODUCTION.

After Houston "consumes" Ahman Green, he'll still have intrinsic value, either higher or lower, but still have value as a football player. When that value falls below the veteran minimum, he'll retire.

The fact that you don't understand this makes your viewpoint, flawed, and in my opinion irrelevant.

You also fail to acknowledge the principle of SUPPLY AND DEMAND. Houston took an "educated" risk. They MAY get a good REWARD even if they overpaid.

We can't establish today that they overpaid, we can only establish that they were willing to pay more than anyone else.

Relating to your ridiculous taco example, the only thing your analysis proved is that you were willing to pay more for that taco than I was. You didn't prove the value of a taco. You only proved the value of the taco, TO YOU.

I might have been willing to pay $19.00 for the taco, I might not have been willing to spend .99 for the taco if I wasn't hungry, or if I didn't LIKE tacos. The fact I didn't spend doesn't mean ANYTHING, other than I didn't buy it.

Your theory on his theory is poor because my $hits gold!!

[Partial]

Plain and simple - Morency IS NOT an every down starter in the NFL.

Where Green would lower his should and get the tough yd on 3rd and 1, Morency is a dancer who gets caught for a loss.

Morency is a nice 3rd down back, but he's simply not big enough, or tough enough... his style is that of a slasher who goes down too easily. He cannot be counted on, down in and down out, to be an every down back.

He is what he is - a 3rd down back.

Who's the dancer soon to be a 100% certain first ballot hall of famer?

[Partial]

Nice Taco reference Gereski. I think it would be better compared to a car at an auction but the general concept was spot on. Green was overpaid and it looks like Sherman had a big part in that. There was a reason he got fired from Green Bay. He was digging a hole that was obvioulsy very difficult to dig out of. To everyones surprise, Thompson turned it around in 2 years and has alot of money to keep going forward.

This is RG's favorite time of the year because he can pretend like he knows what he's talking about because there is no evidence to back it up untill the next season is played out. For all we know, his FA hopes could be right. For all we know, Ahman Green won't follow the pattern that has been in place for over 30 backs in teh NFL. We do have evidence of how SB teams have been assembled over the last 10 years and multiple stats from posters here as well as national articals have shown UFA to be a very poor way to build and aquire yoru team. Still, RG has the abilty to shout from his mountain top like he knows these guys will help. Why? becuase we don't have 100% factualy basis to show him wrong.

In 9 mos when the season is played out and the pattern of FA's not contributing to winning teams continues RG will disappear and be the quite defensive sherman supporter that he always is. For the next couple weeks just deal with is ignorance and do your best to ignore. Untill he brings examples of SB winning teams who in recent history *last 10 years* built through big FA signings or many FA signings than he lacks all credibily. He's got one little shred to hang on while he shouts from his mountain top. Just ignore it. It will go away when the season starts and the Texans still suck and the Packers get better and better. Sherm can't ride Wolf's coattails in HOuston. He's going to have to do it himself this time. Let's see how the great Sherm influence works when he starts from scratch. TT is starting from scratch too and he's made progress. More than we can say for the TExans isn't it?

Just ignore.

I think this is the most stupid post I have ever read on this site, but considering the source I'm really not surprised.

Greg, I don't know why you've decided to "bash" me tonight, it must be the popular thing to do. Anyone in these rooms knows you probably have never had an original thought in your head, I personally don't think you'll ever have an original thought.

Proof will come with time, and unlike you, I'll never leave. You've already had your childish temper tantrum, and it'll be a cold day in hell before I do something so stupid.

I almost feel guilty giving you a hard time, I'm fighting an unarmed man.

I would say you have responded with a fair amount of contentless responses when I raised the question of who we should have signed. Greg's a good guy, lay off.

[retailguy]

I would say you have responded with a fair amount of contentless responses when I raised the question of who we should have signed. Greg's a good guy, lay off.

I'll not back off. I'm sick of being attacked, and having the "rules of the majority" not apply to the minority.

Partial, if you don't know what I WANTED through free agency, you don't know how to read.

I have listed SEVERAL positions that I saw as positions of need, and further stated that if the RB position is not addressed there is no point to sign ANYONE, we should just let the young guys play and develop.

I guess Greg needs your help, because he shows up here unarmed everyday in the battle of wits because he has none.