Griffith signs with Raiders

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i'll still stand by what i believe that its a good thing sherman is gone. he didn't take the draft very serious and threw away a lot of money on guys that didn't deserve that money

however, TT is starting to look like the exact opposite, that will only concentrate on the draft and won't spend any money

we went from one extreme to the other

we need something in the middle

even the god damn patriots, the team everyone says is the build through the draft poster boys, are going after free agents

you can do both, and you should use both

we are not

[retailguy]

did TT shower him with flowers and cookies?

NO. Those cost too much. We must save that money to sign the draft choices.

[gbpackfan]

Mike Sherman put all his eggs in the FA basket and drafted like shit.

Ted Thompson is putting all his eggs in the draft basket and handles FA like shit.

Now, if only we could find TED SHERMAN!!!!! I'd even settle for Mike Thompson.

[retailguy]

Mike Sherman put all his eggs in the FA basket and drafted like shit.

Ted Thompson is putting all his eggs in the draft basket and handles FA like shit.

Now, if only we could find TED SHERMAN!!!!! I'd even settle for Mike Thompson.

One of those two would be GREAT. The problem is if we get the other guy, who sucks at free agency and sucks at drafting...

With our luck, you know who we'd get.

[Charles Woodson]

tt brought him in, tood his time, jerked the guy around and watched him walk out and sign with another team

And how do you know that Thompson jerked the guy around? Where do you get off assuming that the Packers didn't make a real effort to get Griffith?

Share the details that you have, why don't you. We'd all love to hear them. I doubt you have any deatails on how this went down right now though. My bet is that you're not really interested in knowing the details though. In your mind, you already know Thompson was at fault.

See the reason Thompson is at fault is because he had the resources. Thompson could have easily signed him, he has the money. The reason why he didnt offer him a contract like one that oakland offered him is beyond me.

[Charles Woodson]

Mike Sherman put all his eggs in the FA basket and drafted like shit.

Ted Thompson is putting all his eggs in the draft basket and handles FA like shit.

Now, if only we could find TED SHERMAN!!!!! I'd even settle for Mike Thompson.

One of those two would be GREAT. The problem is if we get the other guy, who sucks at free agency and sucks at drafting...

With our luck, you know who we'd get.

You mean like the Redskins GM?

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Mike Sherman put all his eggs in the FA basket and drafted like shit.

Ted Thompson is putting all his eggs in the draft basket and handles FA like shit.

Now, if only we could find TED SHERMAN!!!!! I'd even settle for Mike Thompson.

One of those two would be GREAT. The problem is if we get the other guy, who sucks at free agency and sucks at drafting...

With our luck, you know who we'd get.

matt millen already has a team


thats why packer fans like the fact that he's the lions gm. it means he can't come here

[gureski]

Let's look at this purely from a market concept. Mughelli got 3 million a year in Atlanta. If this guy couldn't get $2 million a year from anyone then maybe there is something wrong that hasn't been publicized yet?

If many of you viewed the guy would get over 2 million a year from someone and in the end he didn't even get to 2 million a year then that should tell you there is something wrong. Either he's not as good as some thought or something is wrong with him physically or mentally. We just don't know yet so why get so pissed? The truth will come out.

[GBRulz]

I wonder how many people are asking TT tonight at Fan Fest why we didn't get Griffith signed? The coaches were all supposed to be around tonight, but if it was like last year, TT wasn't out talking with the people like the other coaches were.

[Charles Woodson]

It's like the Twilight Zone in here right now! Now Sherman's GM ability is vindicated?

What the hell is happening?

Retail is sure we're going to face tough teams before free agency, the draft, and final rosters are even formed? HELL, OUR ROSTER isn't even formed but you're just dead set that it wont be enough!

I've called Thompson an idiot when he deserved it. He doesn't deserve the crap you guys are giving him right now. You ignored it in another thread so I'll say it again here....the O-Line will improve if only because those young guys will have had a full year and off-season in the offense. They will no longer have to think about assignments and will be able to concentrate more on their technique. Morency is a very quick RB. He's also fast. He's exactly what you'd want in a ZBS RB. He may not be the answer but it's too early to say! Who the hell was A.Green when the Packers dug him out of Seattle and stuck him in front of the Pro-Bowler D.Levens? And then there is the draft where the team could easily get a RB or the fact that guys like Chris Brown and C.Dillon are still out there in free agency. But you see nothing but hell, brimbstone, and fire! It's hopeless to you.

I happen to truly believe that there is reason to hope here. The only people who are dead set on doom and gloom are those that want it to happen. You want doom and gloom because you've tied yourself to it. You've tied yourself to it and you will hang from it when you're proven wrong.

What makes you think that TT would pass up every RB that could have made an impact for us for some guys like Corey Dillion and Chris Brown. On of the reasons why i have no hope for this FA season is because TT hasnt given me anything to hope for. There have been numerous guys that could have had an impact for us and started for us. We didnt sign them because they were a little bit expensive. But wth, does it matter what they get paid if they prove they are worth it on the feild, yes no one knows how they will preform this upcoming season but you gotta take a chance on someone. Like ive mentioned in previous posts, our Win Lose record was very deceving. We only beat one team over 500 and that was the bears in the season finale. we were blown out by 10 points or more, more times than we beat somebody by 10 points or more. Sometimes you've gotta give some to get some.

[retailguy]

Let's look at this purely from a market concept. Mughelli got 3 million a year in Atlanta. If this guy couldn't get $2 million a year from anyone then maybe there is something wrong that hasn't been publicized yet?

If many of you viewed the guy would get over 2 million a year from someone and in the end he didn't even get to 2 million a year then that should tell you there is something wrong. Either he's not as good as some thought or something is wrong with him physically or mentally. We just don't know yet so why get so pissed? The truth will come out.

Honestly, couldn't this point be used with every free agent that Thompson eventually signs? C'mon man, you're grasping at straws here.

Don't you think that PERHAPS, JUST PERHAPS that Ted has botched the "PR" aspects of Free Agency by stating that players are typically overpriced? If you are a player looking for a GREAT deal, would you come here?

I sure the hell wouldn't.

[retailguy]

I wonder how many people are asking TT tonight at Fan Fest why we didn't get Griffith signed? The coaches were all supposed to be around tonight, but if it was like last year, TT wasn't out talking with the people like the other coaches were.

Ted has NEVER embraced the fans. He simply doesn't have those skills. Kind of sad.

[Charles Woodson]

Let's look at this purely from a market concept. Mughelli got 3 million a year in Atlanta. If this guy couldn't get $2 million a year from anyone then maybe there is something wrong that hasn't been publicized yet?

If many of you viewed the guy would get over 2 million a year from someone and in the end he didn't even get to 2 million a year then that should tell you there is something wrong. Either he's not as good as some thought or something is wrong with him physically or mentally. We just don't know yet so why get so pissed? The truth will come out.

Maybe he just got over looked, maybe it was a steal. Yes it could have been anything but the fact of the matter is he is better than anybody we have at FB right now.

[Bossman641]

I've been mostly a TT supporter but this is getting ridiculous. You're trying to tell me that there's not a single FA out there who would help the Pack. Our offense was bad enough last year. Now we're taking steps backward and we're gonna count on our main improvement coming from the strengthening of the OL? PLEASE. We need playmakers. Griffith would have been a great pickup.

I don't even know who I want that's out there anyone. What are we gonna have going into Week 1? 15 million? 20 million? Screw this, I'm getting drunk.

[gureski]

So let me get this straight. We should go out and sign no one? Every other GM in the league is signing people EXCEPT for Ted Thompson. So I guess because Thompson works for the Packers, he is the one who knows everything. Everyone else is wrong. There are some players that were out there that could have helped the Packers.

1. Justin Griffith - PERFECT FIT HERE, TT let him go.
2. Randy McMichael - This team BADLY needs a pass catching TE. We have NO depth behind the blocking Franks. We basically have NO pass catching TEs.
3. Roderick Hood - This team needs a nickel back in the worst way. Not only could he be the 3rd corner, but he may even be the answer in a year or two when Harris' play starts to slip. Not to mention he returns kicks!
4. ANY OFFENSIVE PLAYMAKER. Your telling me that isnt one guy (or wasn't) that could have helped the Packers put some points up? Stallworth? Bennett? McMichaels? Even Stevens could help!

Just because we don't agree with the GM of the Green Bay Packers doesn't make us fair weather fans or stupid. It is fairly obvious that the Packers have HUGE holes on both sides of the ball that can't all be filled via the draft. Now can TT fix this team. Sure. But he is going to have to do some wheeling and dealing and start closing some f-ing deals!

Nobody said we shouldn't sign anyone. I'm merely asking whether we need to riot every time someone signs someone?

And the Bears GM didn't sign anyone yet. He only built a team that was in the Superbowl a month ago. Is he an idiot? I mean, it's obviously a race, right?

The thing about your comments is that it's as if you feel you really know what is happening internally with the Packers. Reading you, I'm led to think that you KNOW exactly what is going on and disagree with the strategy. Maybe you do have inside info but if you don't than you need to realize that you're acting like a raging fanatic. You're saying all these things yet you don't know for sure if it's true. You're even coming off as if you know more then Thompson! It's as if you've lost touch with reality. They are there. We aren't. We're fans. IT's their life and job.

On the players you mention, sure...Griffith would've been nice but we don't know what happened yet. Why be so enraged at THompson and willing to point the finger when you don't know what happened?

McMichael sucks. I told you before. His stats are misleading. He's a fancy Bubba Franks. I'm not kidding. I've seen the statistical breakdown of McMichael created by the football scientist. He's not what you think he was. Stevens is the guy to hope for.

Yeah, we need another CB and just today word was leaked that the Packers are looking at Tory James. Looks like the team is looking at nickel backs. Does it have to be your guy for Thompson to be viewed as trying?

On the offensive playmakers front.....who do you think is really worth going after? Stallworth? Make me laugh. Moss is a playmaker and rumor has Thompson talking trade with Oakland. What else is there that you're dying to have? It's just not out there this year. When the talent isn't there you don't just buy buy buy what is there to make up for it. That's a waste. You don't just buy to buy. It has to be the right player. Be frustrated that the players aren't there this year, not at the GM.

I believe we can get at least one playmaker in the draft. I believe we can fill at least 2 holes, maybe 3 in the draft. Thompson has drafted 3 all rookie players in 2 drafts and multiple starters. Why doubt his drafting ability now and downplay his potential to get help in the draft?

As for Packer fans that disagree with the GM....that's fine. We all do at some time. The difference is that most fans give the guy the benefit of the doubt before calling for him to be fired. What happened tonight is that a guy was signed and before anyone knew any facts about what happened.....guys started ripping Ted Thompson and calling for him to be fired. That's not rationale.