Doesn't sound like a rumor anymore...

[MadtownPacker]

Kick him to the curb, remember the titans.

Actually, the "titans" did the kicking to the curb last season (McNair).

[Partial]

I was referencing the movie and a team that achieved based on character and determination. We don't need that cancer.

[cheesner]

Favre is fine with acquiring Moss - that's good enough for me.

If there is a backlash (which I doubt), do you think Favre making a statement welcoming him to the team would put some people at ease?

[pbmax]

I thought the mooning was fine and thought it was funny. And it helped prove Joe Buck a cowardly opportunist. Having heard Chris Carter tell the story of fans mooning the Vikings bus, I connected the two before Buck could induce outrage.

And I hold no grudges over TDs scored against the Pack. I'd love to have several members of the Patriots and Jets regardless of their shellacking of the Pack.

This is about who Moss is. He walks off the field before the game is over. He coasts when he doesn't believe the ball is coming his way. How will that work when Favre is running around like a crazed 6 year old?

There are physical questions, several people have observed he has lost a step. He doesn't run inside routes willingly. He love of the go and post will encourage Favre to hoist moon shots. If Moss is as dedicated to proving himself as Walker was, then this is good. If he's slacking, this will be ugly.

He is also close to 30.

The upside is that this signing would be Charles Woodson all over again. Dump a ton of money in the first year, and then play out the string as long as he holds it together.

Woodson worked out well. I have even more questions with Moss. Hopefully, he will prove me wrong.

I don't think this is a good idea. PFT had a Harlan quote that mentioned someone telling him, "its not like he ever hurt anybody". Which means our standards are a bit low now.

I took it more as "we need to get over ourselves" which is 100% correct. Moss has been a model citizen compared to say, KRob. If the only reason people say no to Moss is because of the mooning or all the TDs he scored against the Pack then they are tripping and dont really want to see a winning team.

This would be the best upgrade TT could make on offense. It would allow even a medicore RB to find holes in the D due to the double coverage Moss would get.

I wonder what DD thinks about all this?

[MadtownPacker]

Favre is fine with acquiring Moss - that's good enough for me.

Thats what Im talkin bout!!

Favre is the presence that will allow this to work. If it was ARod or a new QB I would say no way but like my sig with Moss' quote says......

[Packnut]

Moss

Moss's greatest sin is that he has quit on his teammates on more than one occassion.

Terrell Owens is just as much of punk as Moss is, but at least you know he's giving his all on every play.

Moss is a primadonna... If he played hard on every play, cared about winning, cared about his teammates??? Then maybe I'd consider him.

But given his weak character and his penchant for sulking, pouting, and quitting on his teammates - NO WAY do I want Moss.

Moss will help Favre and that's all that counts in my book. Besides, what else do we have to look forward to this season? Right now it look's pretty boring does'nt it? As it stands, our offense is down-right pathetic and would be hard pressed to avg better than 14 ppg. At least watching Brett throw up some bombs to Randy would add some excitement to the equation.

[pbmax]

On this rare occasion, I am even more cynical than wist. Owens has taken plays off before as well, as well as quitting on his QBs by short arming the ball if he feels he's not involved enough.

Owens has also be accused this year of not knowing the playbook. He said he knew "his plays". Doesn't sound like a candidate for a good second or third progression receiver.

Moss is less clever than Owens and makes his sulking more obvious. Owens is bad, I think Moss would be worse. The only advantage here is that the media circus around Moss is smaller than Owens. Except for the times where he discusses publicly his use of weed.

Moss's greatest sin is that he has quit on his teammates on more than one occassion.

Terrell Owens is just as much of punk as Moss is, but at least you know he's giving his all on every play.

Moss is a primadonna... If he played hard on every play, cared about winning, cared about his teammates??? Then maybe I'd consider him.

But given his weak character and his penchant for sulking, pouting, and quitting on his teammates - NO WAY do I want Moss.

[pbmax]

I understand packnuts point. Maybe there is more Cliff Christl in Ted Thompson than we think. Has anyone seen them together?

Unlike every receiver and back in the FA market, Moss can change games. If he is interested.

[BooHoo]

Moss's greatest sin is that he has quit on his teammates on more than one occassion.

Terrell Owens is just as much of punk as Moss is, but at least you know he's giving his all on every play.

Moss is a primadonna... If he played hard on every play, cared about winning, cared about his teammates??? Then maybe I'd consider him.

But given his weak character and his penchant for sulking, pouting, and quitting on his teammates - NO WAY do I want Moss.

I have some of the same concerns as wist. Although I think Owens stinks worse. At least Moss hasn't shot is mouth off as much in recent years. At least not that has been covered on national news. Does our coaching staff have the where-with-all to properly coach Moss? Do we have enough coaching expertise to make Moss shine? Do we have strong player leadership on the team to force Moss to play for the team? Reggie White and his type we do not have! Brett is a leader but can he make the necesary impact on Moss? A lot of questions to answer. And unfortunately we may not find the answers until after a long season.

[Packnut]

Farve

I understand packnuts point. Maybe there is more Cliff Christl in Ted Thompson than we think. Has anyone seen them together?

Unlike every receiver and back in the FA market, Moss can change games. If he is interested.

I'm counting on the "Favre factor" to have at least a minimal amount of influence on Randy. Now if things go south, I can see Randy acting up and causing trouble and there is the risk of Jennings watching Randy take plays off, but we've got the "anti-Moss" antidote in Donald Driver.

It's all risk vs reward in any event. I look at it this way, a very boring 6-10 season without Randy and may-be an exciting drama filled 8-8 with him.

[red]

alright, i've been wanting to say this for awhile

the goal of any team is to win games. period

that stadium doesn't fill up every sunday to watch the team hand out presents to little kids or to watch them help little old ladies cross the road. people fill that stadium to watch the team try and win

the main goal of every nfl team and its fans is for their team to win championships, not win citizenship awards

sad, but true

[prsnfoto]

Re: Favre

I understand packnuts point. Maybe there is more Cliff Christl in Ted Thompson than we think. Has anyone seen them together?

Unlike every receiver and back in the FA market, Moss can change games. If he is interested.

I'm counting on the "Favre factor" to have at least a minimal amount of influence on Randy. Now if things go south, I can see Randy acting up and causing trouble and there is the risk of Jennings watching Randy take plays off, but we've got the "anti-Moss" antidote in Donald Driver.

It's all risk vs reward in any event. I look at it this way, a very boring 6-10 season without Randy and may-be an exciting drama filled 8-8 with him.

Bingo, I think DD would love to see him let's face it as great of shape as DD is in he takes a beating every year fron double and triple teams and this could extend his career there is plenty of balls to go around. I also don't think he will care about the Randy Ratio, I think the best case scenario is he gets 40-50 catches but averages high teens per catch he doesn't like the middle anyhow there is plenty of that for DD and Jennings and they are use to it.

[Packnut]

Re: Favre

I understand packnuts point. Maybe there is more Cliff Christl in Ted Thompson than we think. Has anyone seen them together?

Unlike every receiver and back in the FA market, Moss can change games. If he is interested.

I'm counting on the "Favre factor" to have at least a minimal amount of influence on Randy. Now if things go south, I can see Randy acting up and causing trouble and there is the risk of Jennings watching Randy take plays off, but we've got the "anti-Moss" antidote in Donald Driver.

It's all risk vs reward in any event. I look at it this way, a very boring 6-10 season without Randy and may-be an exciting drama filled 8-8 with him.

Bingo, I think DD would love to see him let's face it as great of shape as DD is in he takes a beating every year fron double and triple teams and this could extend his career there is plenty of balls to go around. I also don't think he will care about the Randy Ratio, I think the best case scenario is he gets 40-50 catches but averages high teens per catch he doesn't like the middle anyhow there is plenty of that for DD and Jennings and they are use to it.

Yep, you nailed it. It's all about one player's ability complementing anothers. Driver and Jennings are slant type guys. The way things are now, with no threat of a run game, teams are gonna make it a priority to take the slants away from us. Moss is a deep threat despite his perceived talent diminishing skills label.

Even a Taking plays off, bad -attitude, skill diminished Randy Moss is BETTER than what we have now as far as deep threats go.

[GBRulz]

I want to win. I am not interested in being the Sister Mary School of Nuns.

[Packnut]

Winning

I want to win. I am not interested in being the Sister Mary School of Nuns.

AMEN!