Doesn't sound like a rumor anymore...

[pbmax]

wist only voted 9 time

Who let Wist vote no 11 times??

Wist only voted 10 times.

[BF4MVP]

I'm assuming Partial voted too, so that leaves Wist at 8

[GBRulz]

He did also say that Thompson doesn't know if HE wants him either.

I'm sure they are downplaying the whole thing. If it's well known that we REALLY want Moss, it might cause Al to stand his ground on getting a 1st or 2nd pick for him. If that is what it takes to get Moss, I say no.

When have we known TT to get excited about anything or really inform the public of his plans? It's just another "we'll have to wait and see" situation.

[the_idle_threat]

Dont forget about Tommy "hole-in-one" Brady.

Have you seen his new ad campaign?

"My names Tom Brady, and I might just be the father of your baby"

[BF4MVP]

Ted Thompson never really says what he's thinking..Especially when the player in question is on another team (tampering?)..We'll just have to wait and see..

[packerbacker1234]

who knows.

ESPN just said fi the price gets right it's done deal.

They said the best way to get Moss to be in GB is for favre to come on National TV in an interview, such as on ESPN, and clearly state he wants Randy Moss on his team.

We know he said it, but a national televised interview would sway almost all hte fans. Then the excuse becomes "Favre said he wants him, so get it done". There will be too much pressure to NOT do it.

[MJZiggy]

Shameless self indulgence by ESPN. Just for that I hope he does an exclusive with NFLN. The best way for Moss to come to GB is for Davis to make a reasonable offer and Moss to renegotiate generously. He's rich. He can afford to delay some of that cayash.

[Fritz]

I cannot tell you what incredibly mixed feelings I have about the possibility of Moss coming to GB. I've never liked the guy, especially his quitting on plays and quitting on his team before a game is over. I also don't like the idea of picking up a guy who is clearly only a one or two year player - he has a documented history of chewing up QB's who are rookies or are re-treads. As soon as Favre retires, Moss's usefulness to the Packers ends. It's also questionable as to whether he's got much left.

Having said all that, the idea of Driver, Moss and Jennings plus a rookie (I hope TT will draft a promising receiver) is intriguing. No, Moss doesn't like to go inside, but he can draw attention away from the middle of teh field if a safety knows he'll have to go help on Moss.

I feel so...conflicted. I think I need to talk to my therapist...

[CaptainKickass]

It's called "spin".

The Packers brass wants to make it appear that it will be "very trying" or "difficult" for the team and the fans to accept Moss so that the perceived value of Moss stays where it is.

If they come out and say Favre wants Moss, the fans want Moss, the head honchos want Moss, etc etc - then guess what - the asking price or negotiable price goes up - which is not in favor of the Pack.

I'd lie straight to their face too - "Yeah Mr. Davis, the fans are pretty negative towards him what with the character risk and all, we'll give you a 4th rd pick and maybe another player......"


Straight "spin".

[Chevelle2]

It's called "spin".

The Packers brass wants to make it appear that it will be "very trying" or "difficult" for the team and the fans to accept Moss so that the perceived value of Moss stays where it is.

If they come out and say Favre wants Moss, the fans want Moss, the head honchos want Moss, etc etc - then guess what - the asking price or negotiable price goes up - which is not in favor of the Pack.

I'd lie straight to their face too - "Yeah Mr. Davis, the fans are pretty negative towards him what with the character risk and all, we'll give you a 4th rd pick and maybe another player......"


Straight "spin".

wow!! excellent thought!! i never thought of it this way, man. good thinking!! i cant wait till this moss deal goes down!!!

[Oldwis]

I have misgivings about Moss so I would not add him to the roster:

1. He's 30 years old. His "character" is formed. He will not become a different persons because he is in Green Bay. Remember the scenario of the girl who marries the drunk because she is sure she can change him?

2. Apparently he is all of the following: disobedient to coaches and management, a locker-room cancer, and a loner rather than a team player--the very opposite of Donald Driver or Kabeer or Hawk, to name only three of many.

3. Isn't this the same man who, when still a Viking, ran down a policeman?
(Or am I confusing him with someone else?)

4. Anyone who is willing to overlook these character issues either: doesn't distinguish between fantasy football and real football, or, should never ever occupy a position of responsibility in an organization in the real world.

5. Andre Rison was a choir boy compared to Moss. As I recall, Rison's girl friend caused much of his trouble; I believe she was a violent woman.

6. And just in case someone wants to drag in the Great One, it wasn't Vince Lombardi who said, "winning is the only thing." It was a line in the fifty year old John Wayne movie about football coaching, "Trouble Along the Way," spoken by child actress Sherri Jackson to Donna Reed. (Pretty good movie, too. )

Cordially,

Oldwis

[HarveyWallbangers]

I have misgivings about Moss so I would not add him to the roster:

1. He's 30 years old. His "character" is formed. He will not become a different persons because he is in Green Bay. Remember the scenario of the girl who marries the drunk because she is sure she can change him?

2. Apparently he is all of the following: disobedient to coaches and management, a locker-room cancer, and a loner rather than a team player--the very opposite of Donald Driver or Kabeer or Hawk, to name only three of many.

3. Isn't this the same man who, when still a Viking, ran down a policeman?
(Or am I confusing him with someone else?)

4. Anyone who is willing to overlook these character issues either: doesn't distinguish between fantasy football and real football, or, should never ever occupy a position of responsibility in an organization in the real world.

5. Andre Rison was a choir boy compared to Moss. As I recall, Rison's girl friend caused much of his trouble; I believe she was a violent woman.

6. And just in case someone wants to drag in the Great One, it wasn't Vince Lombardi who said, "winning is the only thing." It was a line in the fifty year old John Wayne movie about football coaching, "Trouble Along the Way," spoken by child actress Sherri Jackson to Donna Reed. (Pretty good movie, too. )

Cordially,

Oldwis

I can understand misgivings about Moss and I agree with some of these, but I would not say Rison was a choir boy compared to Moss. The "running over a policeman" shows how overrated the incident was. He bumped into a meter maid. It sounded like a big misunderstanding more than anything. Most of the players in the Vikings locker room actually liked Moss. The coach liked him. I think he's moody dude, but generally people around him think he's okay. Totally opposite of Terrell Owens--who most people around him seem to think is a jerkwad. I do understand people who think he's past his prime. I agree that he is, but I still think he's somebody that can get 70 receptions for 1000 yards and 10 TDs and can take attention away from Driver and Jennings. I do understand people who have a problem with his character issues, and it's the reason he can be had for so cheaply. I say the risk is worth it for the right price. What I'm hearing from those that don't want him is that they wouldn't want him if he came free. I disagree. For the right price, I'd take a chance on him.

[the_idle_threat]

I have misgivings about Moss so I would not add him to the roster:

1. He's 30 years old. His "character" is formed. He will not become a different persons because he is in Green Bay. Remember the scenario of the girl who marries the drunk because she is sure she can change him?

2. Apparently he is all of the following: disobedient to coaches and management, a locker-room cancer, and a loner rather than a team player--the very opposite of Donald Driver or Kabeer or Hawk, to name only three of many.

3. Isn't this the same man who, when still a Viking, ran down a policeman?
(Or am I confusing him with someone else?)

4. Anyone who is willing to overlook these character issues either: doesn't distinguish between fantasy football and real football, or, should never ever occupy a position of responsibility in an organization in the real world.

5. Andre Rison was a choir boy compared to Moss. As I recall, Rison's girl friend caused much of his trouble; I believe she was a violent woman.

6. And just in case someone wants to drag in the Great One, it wasn't Vince Lombardi who said, "winning is the only thing." It was a line in the fifty year old John Wayne movie about football coaching, "Trouble Along the Way," spoken by child actress Sherri Jackson to Donna Reed. (Pretty good movie, too. )

Cordially,

Oldwis

I can understand misgivings about Moss and I agree with some of these, but I would not say Rison was a choir boy compared to Moss. The "running over a policeman" shows how overrated the incident was. He bumped into a meter maid. It sounded like a big misunderstanding more than anything. Most of the players in the Vikings locker room actually liked Moss. The coach liked him. I think he's moody dude, but generally people around him think he's okay. Totally opposite of Terrell Owens--who most people around him seem to think is a jerkwad. I do understand people who think he's past his prime. I agree that he is, but I still think he's somebody that can get 70 receptions for 1000 yards and 10 TDs and can take attention away from Driver and Jennings. I do understand people who have a problem with his character issues, and it's the reason he can be had for so cheaply. I say the risk is worth it for the right price. What I'm hearing from those that don't want him is that they wouldn't want him if he came free. I disagree. For the right price, I'd take a chance on him.

Agree 100% with Harv.

Also want to note that ol' Vince may not have originated "Winning is the only thing," but he did indeed say it. They play an audio recording of him saying it all the time on WTMJ radio ... I think it's during the game-day intro.

IIRC, he later said he regretted using the quote, because it could be used to justify a lot of things he did not intend nor stand for... (i.e. cheating).

[wist43]

wist only voted 9 time

Who let Wist vote no 11 times??

Wist only voted 10 times.

Actually, I voted 138 freakin times!!!!

Hence, my contention that there is some shenanigans going on with the "nay" vote!!!

[TennesseePackerBacker]

"Favre throws another touchdown pass to Moss", man that's gonna be great to hear.