Five worst (Overpaid and overrated) FA signings

[Scott Campbell]

Retailguy,

V.Shiancoe isn't on the list either and he's quite possibly the most mind-boggling signing that has taken place. This isn't exactly THE universally recognized list of most ridiculous contracts. It's one person's opinion.

The above is also one person's opinion.

Touche' MN. Touche'. This has been my gripe for weeks. His/other info are FACTS.........................

Hey - Community College Professor. He didn't state it as a fact. He uses the phrase "quite possibly the most mind-boggling signing that has taken place".

My adult literacy teacher tells me that this is put forth as an opinion.

Shermtard.

[gureski]

Better start re-reading because the individual you are patting on the back was incorrect in their statement. As I pointed out,

It would seem that this is an opinion as well.... Guerski just because you believe it to be a "fact" doesn't mean it is one.

Patler astutely pointed out in another thread that "EVERYTHING" regarding free agency is subject to future debate... this would include YOUR points as well as mine.

Move on to someone else. When you compared Ahman Green's value to a Taco, you lost me. My resistence to debate you has nothing to do with playing the "victim". It has everything to do with your absolute insistence that the only way is YOUR way.

That's not a debate. That's arguing with a fence post. I'll pass. Thanks.

The missing factor you left out is that I can PROVE what I'm saying. Facts are something concrete that you can prove. 2 plus 2 equals 4. It can be proven.

The statements I made earlier are factual and can be proven. Being that most everything is 'possible', Shiancoe's deal fits the category I placed it in with the key preface being the word "POSSIBLE".

The names that started this thread were merely one person's opinion and didn't reflect a universally accepted list of the most overpaid free agents. Evidence of that is the fact that I, and others, disagree with the list.

Both statements I made can be proven. That's what a fact is.

Now, I don't agree with you but that doesnt' mean we can't debate something and find common ground in which to discuss and understand each other.

The Taco example was merely to try to give you a real life example of how someone overpaying for a product doesn't immediately make that product worth the amount it was bought at. A 99 cent taco is a 99 cent taco whether you pay $20.00 for it or 99 cents. The fact that a single person is willing to overpay for a product does not mean that the value of that product has changed.

I also wanted to show you how someone refusing to overpay for something prior to another person stepping in and overpaying for something doesn't make the person who didn't overpay an idiot.

Both of those examples were not meant to outright prove Green was overpaid. They were merely removing two pieces of your argument from the overall debate.

You turned the debate into the academic economic definition of 'Overpaid' so that you didn't have to grant me the point I was making. A reasonable person would acknowledge points that are valid, not try to find technicalities in the academic way it's portrayed to dismiss the concept. What that told me is that you don't want an honest debate on this issue.

I tried to come to an agreement of facts with you and you are now walking away from that. YOu can say it's because I'm not worthy of debate but realize that once you do that you're removing yourself from that 'victim' club you recently placed yourself in and placing yourself into your own 'mob' club. In order for you to be a true victim of the 'mob mentality' then you'd have to be surrounded by people who aren't interested in sitting down with you and having a fair discussion. I'm willing to do that. You're not. Who has the 'mob mentality' here after all?

And I'll say one more thing.....I've seen the clique type atmosphere in life. I know what it is. Maybe that's why it bothered me that you felt you were a target of something like that. Maybe that's why I tried to reach out and create an open and fair dialogue so that you could feel as if you got a fair shake in expressing your thoughts. If you go back to the Griffith post you'll see that I said some negativity didn't bother me. It was being negative just to do it, without a point that bothered me. Having an edge in your posting style is a a good thing. It's passion. Disrespecting others just to do it and just flaming people and going negative in that fashion for no good reason is NOT productive. That's my stance. If you're going to take shots at me then get it right and hit me where I stand, not where you think I am.