Bob McGinn on Vernon Davis

[swede]

Partial,

Bob McGinn and the scouts he surveyed just said the same thing. I said he's the most physically dominate TE ever and that is what every scout agree's upon. I don't create Vernon's phyical measurements, I just read them. The fact is; he is the most physically gifted TE ever. That can not be argued unless your definitino of better is slower, weaker and less explosive.

Bing!

One point to Nick.

[HarveyWallbangers]

The fact is that Hawk and Davis could both end up being great players, but you don't have to tear one down to prop the other one up. Saying Davis is an amazing athlete, but guys like Hawk can be found at the Y is just plan ludicrous. On the other hand, praising Hawk's production and stating that Davis is all measurables is ludicrous also. He did have 800 yards receiving as a college TE last year. Personally, I prefer Hawk. I think the grades are similar. When they are, go with the HUGE need and not the position that you have probably an above average starter with an above average backup.

[RashanGary]

I can understand that for sure Harv....

I go back and forth for the same reason.....

[b bulldog]

Do you think that Hawk could cover Davis?

[b bulldog]

best scenario is Davis at 5 and a LB in round two.

[RashanGary]

Ferguson/Ryans/Walker coming back is best case for next year IMO.

[b bulldog]

i AGREE IF 84 COMES BACK, THAT WOULD BE THE BEST.

[RashanGary]

Ferguson/Ryans/Maurice Drew/Woodson/Pickett/Manuel/Walker

That is just an example of some of the things that could happen. If those things happen I would expect a playoff birth.

[b bulldog]

Drew in round three or four although I like Calhoun muc h better.

[Partial]

Why do you guys all want ferguson? We have two upper echelon tackles.

Give me Davin Joseph at Gaurd over anyone switching positions from tackle to guard any day of the week.

That, paired with AJ Hawk gives a much better combo.

[Bretsky]

Why do you guys all want ferguson? We have two upper echelon tackles.

Give me Davin Joseph at Gaurd over anyone switching positions from tackle to guard any day of the week.

That, paired with AJ Hawk gives a much better combo.

agree

[RashanGary]

Because Ferguson is a better player according to every single scout that has been asked.

[RashanGary]

Why would you take Morgan over Reynolds? We needed a DE and had some pretty good LB's.

Because when you take the lesser player you look back and say "We could have had that probowl star but instead we have this guy"

[Partial]

ferguson is a better play at a position of strength on our team. He wouldn't start. It would be a waste of a pick. It would make ZERO sense to have everyone shift positions.

It'd make more sense to take Davin Joseph at 5 to play guard rather than try and finagle a guard out of a square of tackles. That just seems stupid. You'd get better results with Joseph by far and away.

So why not take Joseph in the second, and add Hawk, rather than simply adding Joseph?

[Bretsky]

Because Ferguson is a better player according to every single scout that has been asked.

I've read some pre-draft grades; scale of 1-100. Ferguson was rated higher, but it was like 96 to 95. I won't argue he's better, but difference is minimal. I'm like partial in that I feel that

Hawk and Joseph > Ferguson and D'Quell Jackson