I didn't know Schaub was traded to the Texans

[retailguy]

doesn't matter, if the texans don't fix their o-line fast they would have just wasted all those picks

carr was just fine, they just couldn't protect him worth a squat

Houston has signed Jordon Black an OT from Kansas City, plus they've resigned Ephriam Salaam.

Their OL needs work, but, like the packers was playing better towards the end of last season.

They definitely need more help in the draft, and trading away a second rounder makes the likelihood of that lower.

But think about it. They signed Green, who has experience in the offense they run, they have Shaub who also has experience in the offense they run, with an "adequate" (careful, that's what all the 'experts' are saying about the system and Morency) line, maybe some of those experts will have to eat their words.... Interesting.

Risky, yes, but interesting.

[Tony Oday]

Their O line sucks! I dont care who they sign it wont be fixed this season...

[Guiness]

Dunno if the line was better, or if the fact that Dayne was getting some +ve yardage had the effect of stopping the rushers from pinning their ears back.

[retailguy]

Their O line sucks! I dont care who they sign it wont be fixed this season...

We'll see. A good LT will help a lot. Schaub also has to have the ability to get the ball out. If he can do that, mediocre can become average pretty quick.

I think you are ruling them out too quickly... Green is also a pretty good back behind a poor line. Better than Ron Dayne, that's for sure.

If all things go well, it could be interesting. Risky, but, I repeat, interesting.

[Joemailman]

moving 2 spots, and giving up 2, 2nd round picks and getting Matt Schuab....sorry, i'm on the other end of this, I think the Texans got screwed. They moved back 2 spots and gave up 2 starters, for a QB who hasn't REALLY proven anythign yet. Yes he could have a huge career. But wow. I donno, I"m on the fence on this one.

I agree. Trading down from 8 to 10 is the equivalent of giving up an early 4th round pick. So Houston has given up 2 2nd's and the equivalent of a 4th for a quarterback with 1 solid start in his career. This trade has Mike Sherman written all over it. They had better be right about Schaub.

[Bretsky]

doesn't matter, if the texans don't fix their o-line fast they would have just wasted all those picks

carr was just fine, they just couldn't protect him worth a squat

Houston has signed Jordon Black an OT from Kansas City, plus they've resigned Ephriam Salaam.

Their OL needs work, but, like the packers was playing better towards the end of last season.

They definitely need more help in the draft, and trading away a second rounder makes the likelihood of that lower.

But think about it. They signed Green, who has experience in the offense they run, they have Shaub who also has experience in the offense they run, with an "adequate" (careful, that's what all the 'experts' are saying about the system and Morency) line, maybe some of those experts will have to eat their words.... Interesting.

Risky, yes, but interesting.

So what you are really saying is it's interesting because their GM is trying

[Tony Oday]

Im sorry but that offensive line is cursed

No really the do suck and though they may have added talent everyone knows that an offense line is built by chemistry and reps so I will reinterate it they will suck, then I will qualify it, this year.

Shaub does have mobility so that helps. They have studs at WR and QB now. I think they can do good things eventually but not now and I honestly think they could wreck a good prospect QB behind that line like they did with Carr.

[Bretsky]

Bad Memories Quiz


Who did Shermy draft a few picks before Matt Schuab ??

[ic_buck]

Bretsky,

Thanks for the reminder,

I think i just threw up in my mouth!!!

[Joemailman]

Bretsky,

Thanks for the reminder,

I think i just threw up in my mouth!!!

A memorable first post. :P It's usually better the 2nd time.

By the way, Sherman had 3 3rd round picks before Schaub. Joey Thomas, Donnell Washington, and B.J. Sander. Three strikes and yerrrrrrrrrr out!

[Bretsky]

Bretsky,

Thanks for the reminder,

I think i just threw up in my mouth!!!

Welcome to PR !

Yes, it makes me sick too

[retailguy]

So what you are really saying is it's interesting because their GM is trying

Well, I guess. But he's lessened his risk a bit in his trying, I think. He's gone out and got one PROVEN player in Ahman Green, and a second player with tremendous upside in Schaub. Also, he's resigned his stud receiver to a very nice contract.

They've brought in a couple of linemen, but that appears to be the weak link at this point. They also need another WR to complement Andre Johnson.

But, really, if you look at it, their offense is in better shape than ours overall. Yes, questions about the line remain, but for the first time in a long time there appears to be hope on the horizon.

I agree with Tony in that the line is "cursed" but, there truly has been growth. Since they run the same system as GB, shouldn't all the rosy things the "experts" say about our offense, and the rosy things about Morency, apply to Houston and Green? That being said, Ahman Green proved in 2005 and 2006 that he can be moderately successful behind a bad line, and schaub is mobile, so that helps as well.

Barring injury, and an OL meltdown, I think Houston will be fun to watch in 2007.

Finally, all you guys saying that this has the "mark of Sherman" all over it must be nuts. What evidence do you have that an Assistant Head Coach with OL responsibilities is operating as a "Defacto GM". That's just asinine. No NFL team would do that.

I'd suspect Sherman is well-respected in that organization. That being said, if he has been asked for anything other than his opinion I'd be stunned. Hopefully he had a say in Jordon Black, and he could definitely offer a valid summary of Ahman Green, but Schaub? Don't you think that's stretching his authority just a wee bit?

[MadtownPacker]

Bretsky,

Thanks for the reminder,

I think i just threw up in my mouth!!!

Welcome to the forum. Most of Breastky's post make me sick too!

[MadtownPacker]

Finally, all you guys saying that this has the "mark of Sherman" all over it must be nuts.

Hey, hey you... it's 2007.. Sherm is not with the team anymore.

Get over it!


BTW - Schaub isnt a bad pickup but for those saying Carr is garbage, lets see how Schaub throws the ball whille laying flat on his back.

If ARod get traded bring in Carr in would be a great but I have a feeling he is headed to chicago.

[BlueBrewer]

moving 2 spots, and giving up 2, 2nd round picks and getting Matt Schuab....sorry, i'm on the other end of this, I think the Texans got screwed. They moved back 2 spots and gave up 2 starters, for a QB who hasn't REALLY proven anythign yet. Yes he could have a huge career. But wow. I donno, I"m on the fence on this one.

I agree completely. Schaub hasn't really done anything but flash talent. He comes in and looks good against a defense that gameplanned for the slashing running Vik and does good. Wait until they gameplan for him and you will see that he is no better than Carr. Maybe worse if he is fragile. 247 sacks in 4-5 years and no serious injuries, Carr is one tough sob, NOT TO MENTION HE DIDN'T COMPLAIN!!!!