I didn't know Schaub was traded to the Texans

[Joemailman]

Finally, all you guys saying that this has the "mark of Sherman" all over it must be nuts. What evidence do you have that an Assistant Head Coach with OL responsibilities is operating as a "Defacto GM". That's just asinine. No NFL team would do that.

I'd suspect Sherman is well-respected in that organization. That being said, if he has been asked for anything other than his opinion I'd be stunned. Hopefully he had a say in Jordon Black, and he could definitely offer a valid summary of Ahman Green, but Schaub? Don't you think that's stretching his authority just a wee bit?

I was half-kidding about the Sherman reference. I realize he's not the GM. However, as Assistant Head Coach/Offensive Coordinator, I suspect that Sherman would have some considerable influence when discussing a trade for a guy you expect to be your starting quarterback.

[MJZiggy]

Finally, all you guys saying that this has the "mark of Sherman" all over it must be nuts.

Hey, hey you... it's 2007.. Sherm is not with the team anymore.

Get over it!


BTW - Schaub isnt a bad pickup but for those saying Carr is garbage, lets see how Schaub throws the ball whille laying flat on his back.

If ARod get traded bring in Carr in would be a great but I have a feeling he is headed to chicago.

Chicago? I was thinking Queens...

[retailguy]

Finally, all you guys saying that this has the "mark of Sherman" all over it must be nuts.

Hey, hey you... it's 2007.. Sherm is not with the team anymore.

Get over it!


BTW - Schaub isnt a bad pickup but for those saying Carr is garbage, lets see how Schaub throws the ball whille laying flat on his back.

If ARod get traded bring in Carr in would be a great but I have a feeling he is headed to chicago.

Over it? You're kidding right? I'm well past "over it". Funny that you tell me I'm not over it, but 52 times a day, someone posts something to the equivalent that every bad NFL deal is somehow linked to Sherman.... They've even invented a word - "shermanesque".

I just don't get it....

Your trade idea of Carr to Chicago is intriguing. Might be a good move for them, but then, do you cut Griese?

I really wonder how Carr would perform behind a good line. I wondered the same thing about Akili Smith and Tim Couch too and that didn't work out so well.

Joey Harrington performed better in Miami last year, but not good enough.

Sadly, that's probably Carr's route too.

[Patler]

I would really like to see Carr play with a reasonably competent offense somewhere. At least with a line that would give him a little protection and maybe some confidence when he drops back.

He completes 60% of his passes, last year completed 68%. His TD/INT ratio is not great, but in the last three years is 41/37, so its not completely awful. In 5 years he has been sacked 249 times, in 76 games. It's hard to say why. The line has been bad, but some may be his fault, too. I would have to think at this point he is a bit gun-shy when he drops back, yet his completion percentage is very good..

He is an odd one to try and evaluate.

[mngolf19]

Finally, all you guys saying that this has the "mark of Sherman" all over it must be nuts.

Hey, hey you... it's 2007.. Sherm is not with the team anymore.

Get over it!


BTW - Schaub isnt a bad pickup but for those saying Carr is garbage, lets see how Schaub throws the ball whille laying flat on his back.

If ARod get traded bring in Carr in would be a great but I have a feeling he is headed to chicago.

Chicago? I was thinking Queens...

I agree Zig, I wouldn't be surprised to see him get a call from MN.

[HarveyWallbangers]

I agree Zig, I wouldn't be surprised to see him get a call from MN.

He needs to be in the right situation to succeed, and I don't think Minnesota is that situation. Plus, wouldn't that just hold up the development of their 2nd round pick, Tarvaris Jackson. At least, that's what we heard from many Viking fans when Favre chose not to retire--that he'd hold up the development of Aaron Rodgers.

[Partial]

Wow, Atlanta got way more for Schaub then we did for Hasselback. In the end I don't see good things coming from the Texans. This will set them back.

It will probably cost them a shot at Adrian Peterson (he's going to fall past 3) when in reality they signed ahman for a year or two of relieve running back, then giving up two seconds which could add to solid starting linemen is just foolish.

[Patler]

Wow, Atlanta got way more for Schaub then we did for Hasselback.

I always thought GB gave Hasselback away a little too cheaply.

[Partial]

Wow, Atlanta got way more for Schaub then we did for Hasselback.

I always thought GB gave Hasselback away a little too cheaply.

Definitely agree. Swapping first and a third? Balogna!

[retailguy]

Wow, Atlanta got way more for Schaub then we did for Hasselback. In the end I don't see good things coming from the Texans. This will set them back.

It will probably cost them a shot at Adrian Peterson (he's going to fall past 3) when in reality they signed ahman for a year or two of relieve running back, then giving up two seconds which could add to solid starting linemen is just foolish.

Don't get your point. If Schaub isn't a quality QB and Green gets hurt, OF COURSE, it'll set them back. How would that differ for ANY other NFL team?

You're right about the line. depth will be there in round 2 both this year and next, but if the "system" is as solid as you claim it to be with your defense of Morency, couldn't it be concluded that they can "patch" together a suitable line without picking guys in round 2? The most important guy is the LT and they just signed Black. He could be a very good LT.

Provided Houston can cobble together an average line, they could really put something together. I wouldn't write them off just yet, even considering all the "if's". (and some of those are very valid)

Also, you make it sound like Peterson is a "sure" thing. From my side of the fence, there is no such thing.... He could flop too.

[the_idle_threat]

Also, you make it sound like Peterson is a "sure" thing. From my side of the fence, there is no such thing.... He could flop too.

qft

I have serious concerns about Peterson's durability issues on the next level. The hits are even harder in the pros.

[GoPackGo]

Houston had the #1 pick and passed on a hometown kid who has already come back to haunt them, twice. Then they invest a ton of money and a few picks for a guy who has two starts in three years at the professional level.

[Partial]

Don't get your point. If Schaub isn't a quality QB and Green gets hurt, OF COURSE, it'll set them back. How would that differ for ANY other NFL team?

My point was that is a very steep price to pay for a guy who by all accounts hasn't been excellent. Hasselback looked better in limited action and we got significantly less for him. Kubiak has just went all in with this guy, and whether he shows to be any good or not, he will ultimately seal Kubiak's fate.

You're right about the line. depth will be there in round 2 both this year and next, but if the "system" is as solid as you claim it to be with your defense of Morency, couldn't it be concluded that they can "patch" together a suitable line without picking guys in round 2? The most important guy is the LT and they just signed Black. He could be a very good LT.

It's possible, but I am skeptical because they run more of a pulling scheme than a zone scheme, and thus are still in need of the behemoth-sized linemen. History has shown that you can build a solid line using late round picks and undrafted free agents in the ZBS as I have shown in multiple posts. It will likely take a few years of learning and "seasoning" before those undrafted and 7th rounders build up their skill set.

i didn't watch many(if any) KC games last year so I have no opinion on Black. My thoughts are he definitely benefitted from having a Brian Watters directly to the right of him, though.

Provided Houston can cobble together an average line, they could really put something together. I wouldn't write them off just yet, even considering all the "if's". (and some of those are very valid)

They have a very good wideout in Johnson and an underrated tight-end in OD(led rookie TE in TD last season). I could see this, but not unless Mario steps up big time for their defense. They also have serious secondary questions. Personally, I think they would have been better off with Carr and Peterson than Schaub and Green and player to be named. We'll see what happens in the end. I could definitely see them jumping on Leon Hall here, since Atlanta likely is trading up to ensure they get Landry.

Also, you make it sound like Peterson is a "sure" thing. From my side of the fence, there is no such thing.... He could flop too.

He's about as good of a prospect as you can get at running back. Problem is he can't stay healthy. We'll see what happens. I don't think he's through with his injuries yet, either, because he runs like Najeh and takes a lot of hits like Ahman.

[woodbuck27]

I would laugh if Schaub turns out to be like Favre...

Can ATL trade away two hall of famers???

The only thing is the texans need to upgrade that O-line in the draft so he doesn't get rolled every passing down...

I said the same thing a few months back when ATL owner said Vick is the man. I would have liked to get rid of A-Rod for Moss and bring in Schaub. I know, I know - not a popular opinion.

If that would have done it, then it certainly seems reasonable to me.

[packrulz]

Schaub is ok but Carr wasn't the problem, it was the o-line. The Texans got hosed if you ask me. They still have a 3rd round pick, maybe TT can get them to trade it for Kevin Barry.