Carr Released

[imscott72]

The saga of David Carr is another tragic example of what happens when a rookie quarterback is designated the starter of a bad NFL team. He invariably performs poorly and his career is short-lived.

Other examples include Tim Couch, Akili Smith, and Joey Harrington who were drafted by lousy teams and expected to lead their teams out of the doldrums as rookies.

While Vince Young had a good year as a rookie, he was drafted by a relatively good team.

Ideally, a rookie quarterback should have 2 years to sit on the bench and absorb the complexities of the game before taking over as a starter.

Exactly, which is what we've done with Aaron. What a shame it would be to unload him now. When Brett is done, Aaron will be more than ready.

[Bretsky]

The saga of David Carr is another tragic example of what happens when a rookie quarterback is designated the starter of a bad NFL team. He invariably performs poorly and his career is short-lived.

Other examples include Tim Couch, Akili Smith, and Joey Harrington who were drafted by lousy teams and expected to lead their teams out of the doldrums as rookies.

While Vince Young had a good year as a rookie, he was drafted by a relatively good team.

Ideally, a rookie quarterback should have 2 years to sit on the bench and absorb the complexities of the game before taking over as a starter.

Exactly, which is what we've done with Aaron. What a shame it would be to unload him now. When Brett is done, Aaron will be more than ready.

I hope you are right and I am wrong on AROD

[imscott72]

The saga of David Carr is another tragic example of what happens when a rookie quarterback is designated the starter of a bad NFL team. He invariably performs poorly and his career is short-lived.

Other examples include Tim Couch, Akili Smith, and Joey Harrington who were drafted by lousy teams and expected to lead their teams out of the doldrums as rookies.

While Vince Young had a good year as a rookie, he was drafted by a relatively good team.

Ideally, a rookie quarterback should have 2 years to sit on the bench and absorb the complexities of the game before taking over as a starter.

Exactly, which is what we've done with Aaron. What a shame it would be to unload him now. When Brett is done, Aaron will be more than ready.

I hope you are right and I am wrong on AROD

Thats just it B, none of us really know how he'll turn out. I'm not here saying he's the next Montana, but we just cant come out and say he's the next Harrington either based on the limited action. He's been around for a few yrs now and learned a lot about the game and watched a HOF QB perform. He's way more prepared then most 1st rounders ever are since they usually are thrown in the fire immediately. The jury's still out, but so many people are claiming he's guilty and dont think he deserves a trial. Hope that makes sense.

[MadtownPacker]

Well at least they did right by letting him go now. I now think he ends up with the raiders. At least al davis will try to get a good team around him. Something Hou failed to do.

Good luck Schaub, you are gonna need it now that defenses are game planning for you instead of a running QB (vick).

[prsnfoto]

2002 Houston Texans 16 16 444 233 52.5 2592 5.84 81 9 15 76/411 31 5 62.8
2003 Houston Texans 12 11 295 167 56.6 2013 6.82 78 9 13 15/90 22 5 69.5
2004 Houston Texans 16 16 466 285 61.2 3531 7.58 69 16 14 49/301 47 6 83.5
2005 Houston Texans 16 16 423 256 60.5 2488 5.88 53 14 11 68/424 18 2 77.2
2006 Houston Texans 16 16 442 302 68.3 2767 6.26 53 11 12 41/240 25 3 82.1
TOTAL 76 75 2070 1243 60.0 13391 6.47 81 59 65 249/1466 143 21 75.5

These are not the worst stats considering he played behind the worst line in the history of football for 5 years(except the 2005 Packers) hes only 3 points behind favre in QB rating granted he only threw it 2/3s as much.

[KYPack]

Yeah, a surprise. Guess Houston had to make the move.

If somebody runs across it, post how much the Texicans have to eat on this release.

He probably doesn't fit TT's model (Thompson would be admitting the Rodgers pick needs to be "hedged"), but I've always like this kid. He looked like he was making good progress after his first few years, but that ballclub went to hell on him.

Mad's probably got it, the Faders will most likely make a move on Carr.

[red]

if i'm a texans fan i'm furious right now

almost everyone of them wanted vince young last year, the local hero. but the team said pass because they had carr

but the fans said, ok if we can't draft young we'll get the best player to come out of college in along time

but the team said, we don't need reggie, we have domanic

and here we are less the one year later, carr and davis are now gone, and young and bush look like the future of the nfl

and they are left with the guy they drafted that didn't do too much last year

[red]

2002 Houston Texans 16 16 444 233 52.5 2592 5.84 81 9 15 76/411 31 5 62.8
2003 Houston Texans 12 11 295 167 56.6 2013 6.82 78 9 13 15/90 22 5 69.5
2004 Houston Texans 16 16 466 285 61.2 3531 7.58 69 16 14 49/301 47 6 83.5
2005 Houston Texans 16 16 423 256 60.5 2488 5.88 53 14 11 68/424 18 2 77.2
2006 Houston Texans 16 16 442 302 68.3 2767 6.26 53 11 12 41/240 25 3 82.1
TOTAL 76 75 2070 1243 60.0 13391 6.47 81 59 65 249/1466 143 21 75.5

These are not the worst stats considering he played behind the worst line in the history of football for 5 years(except the 2005 Packers) hes only 3 points behind favre in QB rating granted he only threw it 2/3s as much.

thats probably because he got sacked a 1/3 of the time he dropped back

[the_idle_threat]

I wonder if Carr, being a free agent and all, will be that quick to sign with the Raiders, who might have even worse pass protection than the Texans had last year.

[red]

I wonder if Carr, being a free agent and all, will be that quick to sign with the Raiders, who might have even worse pass protection than the Texans had last year.

i think he's got a good number of teams to choose from

if i'm the bears i'm calling this guy every half hour

[prsnfoto]

2002 Houston Texans 16 16 444 233 52.5 2592 5.84 81 9 15 76/411 31 5 62.8
2003 Houston Texans 12 11 295 167 56.6 2013 6.82 78 9 13 15/90 22 5 69.5
2004 Houston Texans 16 16 466 285 61.2 3531 7.58 69 16 14 49/301 47 6 83.5
2005 Houston Texans 16 16 423 256 60.5 2488 5.88 53 14 11 68/424 18 2 77.2
2006 Houston Texans 16 16 442 302 68.3 2767 6.26 53 11 12 41/240 25 3 82.1
TOTAL 76 75 2070 1243 60.0 13391 6.47 81 59 65 249/1466 143 21 75.5

These are not the worst stats considering he played behind the worst line in the history of football for 5 years(except the 2005 Packers) hes only 3 points behind favre in QB rating granted he only threw it 2/3s as much.

thats probably because he got sacked a 1/3 of the time he dropped back

No shit IF you think about he has been sacked a season's worth of completions. His TD/INT is not stellar but his overall QB rating in my opinion is pretty unbelievable considering the situation.

[Patler]

If somebody runs across it, post how much the Texicans have to eat on this release.
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I don't think it is all that much. There is a perception that he signed a new contract last year. I do not believe he did. The issue last year was if the Texans would pay him an $8 million option that was due. They did and it extended his contract through the 2008 season. That was all part of his rookie contract. I don't think they ever extended it after that.

Since he only had 2 years left anyway, the cap hit can't be all that bad even if they take it all in 2007. They have the option of designating him as an "early post June release" under the new CBA and dividing the cap hit over two seasons.

[KYPack]

If somebody runs across it, post how much the Texicans have to eat on this release.
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I don't think it is all that much. There is a perception that he signed a new contract last year. I do not believe he did. The issue last year was if the Texans would pay him an $8 million option that was due. They did and it extended his contract through the 2008 season. That was all part of his rookie contract. I don't think they ever extended it after that.

Since he only had 2 years left anyway, the cap hit can't be all that bad even if they take it all in 2007. They have the option of designating him as an "early post June release" under the new CBA and dividing the cap hit over two seasons.

I was guessing around 4 mil, 6 at the max.

They've got some bread invested at QB, Schaub better pull thru for 'em.

[Patler]

If somebody runs across it, post how much the Texicans have to eat on this release.
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I don't think it is all that much. There is a perception that he signed a new contract last year. I do not believe he did. The issue last year was if the Texans would pay him an $8 million option that was due. They did and it extended his contract through the 2008 season. That was all part of his rookie contract. I don't think they ever extended it after that.

Since he only had 2 years left anyway, the cap hit can't be all that bad even if they take it all in 2007. They have the option of designating him as an "early post June release" under the new CBA and dividing the cap hit over two seasons.

I was guessing around 4 mil, 6 at the max.

They've got some bread invested at QB, Schaub better pull thru for 'em.

The Texans' cap site is listing Carr for $2 million "dead money" in 2007 and another $2 million in 2008.

[pbmax]

The knock I have heard on Carr (not that I witnessed, I think I saw him play twice) has been that he has Bledsoe disease.

He holds the ball too long and moves into trouble. One site (footballoutsiders.com reader I think) had a report that the new coaching staff laid the blame for 1/3 of the sacks at his feet.

He was also criticized for throwing checkdowns too often. Sounds like something I have seen before.