Ted Ginn Jr pro day

[ND72]

As long as he's not OUR first round talent. Note to ND: can run only simple routes, was not a factor in the U-M/OSU game, does not go over the middle.Ugh.

He was the player of the game UM/OSU game......

If you guys don't like him, than just say it. But don't through out assumptions that aren't backed up by fact.

[b bulldog]

Hall surely couldn't cover him.

[mmmdk]

Ginn, Ginn might just be worth the "gamble"; he could be special - probowl special. There's a chance he'll be there at #16 and TT will think hard on that one. I see other good picks that could be made at #16 - I'm hoping for Carriker but he might be gone (at #16).

[ND72]

It's kind of funny to me....I remember a lot of arguing I had with people that a certain player from Ohio State last year was too small to play LB in the NFL, and he was over hyped cause he went to OSU....and he was "protected" cause of all the talent around him....And yet again, I feel like i'm making the same arguements for Ginn. WATCH HIS GAMES if you can somehow. The guy is a player. He's fast as hell. He runs good routes. He has soft hands. And he'd serve 3 roles on our team, which is huge. And to say he "isn't the type of talent GB needs"....WOW. While I at times question the path Ted Thompson goes, I do think he enjoys getting GOOD players.

[ND72]

Ginn, Ginn might just be worth the "gamble"; he could be special - probowl special. There's a chance he'll be there at #16 and TT will think hard on that one. I see other good picks that could be made at #16 - I'm hoping for Carriker but he might be gone (at #16).

I'm not argueing here...but where is Carriker playing? Jenkins & Kampman are the starting DE's, KGB comes in on 3rd down. so when/where does Carriker come in? We need a guy in the 1st round to play right away. A DE in the 1st round does NOT start for us this year.

[b bulldog]

Many scouts have said that he doesn't run the best of routes and that Gonzales runs better routes. You can spin it as much as you want but Ginn is slight and short but he still could have a big impact but I don't like his size. 180 lbs is too light imo.

[ND72]

I won't argue any of that....But Donald Driver was "too small" coming out of college, and was listed as a guy who "shouldn't be drafted based on size"....all that size stuff I hear every year...Maurice JOnes Drew was "too small" to be an impact player last year...Ask Indy how that went.

[b bulldog]

Ask Ron Wolf about small players. There are always exceptions to the rule but I don't like small players.

[ND72]

Fair enough

[packrulz]

I think Ginn Jr. would be a good fit for the Packers, they need an explosive punt returner and a deep threat to keep defenses honest. Ginn has world class speed when he's healthy, not many DB's will be able to keep up with him.

[Fritz]

As a Buckeye fan, I think it's just flat wrong to say he only runs simple routes or isn't a good route runner. It is true he didn't go over the middle much, but he ran many different routes at Ohio State, and he can cut on a dime. I imagine he'll be a terrific route runner in the pros--although he'll never be a guy that can take the pounding over the middle.

He had 8 catches for 101 yards and a TD vs. Michigan (and Leon Hall), so to say he wasn't a factor in the game is also flat wrong.

Harvey, my Mom had six catches and a T.D. in that game.

[Scott Campbell]

As a Buckeye fan, I think it's just flat wrong to say he only runs simple routes or isn't a good route runner. It is true he didn't go over the middle much, but he ran many different routes at Ohio State, and he can cut on a dime. I imagine he'll be a terrific route runner in the pros--although he'll never be a guy that can take the pounding over the middle.

He had 8 catches for 101 yards and a TD vs. Michigan (and Leon Hall), so to say he wasn't a factor in the game is also flat wrong.

Harvey, my Mom had six catches and a T.D. in that game.

But your Mom has better size and softer hands.

[Scott Campbell]

Had he been healthy, Ginn hoped to challenge Deion Sanders' unofficial combine record in the 40-yard sprint, 4.29 seconds, but his injury precluded that. The Buckeyes' star recently has been running consistently in the 4.3s during training sessions, and his Wednesday times should have been more than satisfactory for scouts.

I remember during Ted's first draft thinking about how he seemed so enamoured with speed. Picking Guinn at 16 wouldn't surprise me given his ability to play special teams and our return man situation.

[RashanGary]

I like Ginn but I'm also concerned with his size and durabilty. As far as how he plays the game; he might be one of the top few players in this draft.

[Merlin]

Ginn might be a great fit for KR/PR, but if he can't go over the middle and he's small, sorry, we already have DD and DDII on the roster. We need size at WR with over the middle and deep ball capabilities. DD & DDII aren't good at the jump ball but dangerous as hell if left alone.