Mocks Are Way Off Base With Thompson's Pick

[Bretsky]

Bowe and Meacham are the the same height, Bowe is about 4 pounds heavier. They had almost identical 40 times. Meacham's vertical jump was about 4 inches higher than Bowe's. Bowe is a much better blocker.Think Javon Walker (Meacham) vs. Hines Ward or Anquan Boldin (Bowe).

Did Bowe run around 4.4 ? I thought he was in the 4.6-4.7 range ?

[RashanGary]

I'm warming up to Meachem Bretsky. I was against him when I saw he only had one good year but as I read, I'm finding out that he had that serious injury so he might be a hidden gem of sorts. He could be special but he is a serious risk because of the one year thing.

I completely agree with the Javon Walker comparison as far as body type but Walker was truely special after he got that lasic. I just don't know if Meachem has that kind of coordination and ability to track a ball.

[RashanGary]

I think Bowe ran 4.51.

[Joemailman]

B,

Sporting News has Bowe's 40 time at 4.40, NFL Draft Countdown has it at 4.50. Both have Meacham at 4.39.

[HarveyWallbangers]

According to Gil Brandt on NFL.com (somebody that is trustworthy in my book), Meachem ran 4.38 and Bowe ran 4.51 at the combine--which is quite a bit of difference for a wideout. Of course, some guys play faster in pads--while others play slower.

http://www.nfl.com/draft/story/10033502

[pbmax]

While I don't agree with the mindread of Thompson by Packnut, I agree with him on the misread of the Pack's first pick. Probably not a RB unless they have Lynch rated as a top five pick.

Given his history with Wolf, I don't see WR in the first unless someone gets a Koren Robinson grade and is at 16 (minus the blood alcohol percentage).

Don't see a safety here either, same Wolf tendency.

Its either cornerback, TE or O Tackle or D Line. Draft is short of OTackles. Not sure about D Line talent, but it isn't the area of biggest need on the team.

Its either CB or TE. I think TE unless Pack has significantly lower grade on Olsen than all the talking heads.

[Fritz]

Greg Olsen just doesn't do it for me. He's like the woman that all your friends drool over, but you just look at her and go, "eh, so-so."

ND72's and Harvey's perspectives on Ginn have me warming up to the idea a bit. Same with Garrett Wolfe - playmakers. Risks, for sure, but risks with upside. Having said that, I'd rather see them trade down in round one and get an extra second rounder, and skip on Ginn. This team still needs talent - not just one or two guys.

[PaCkFan_n_MD]

Hey Packnut were have you been hiding?

I enjoyed your thoughts and they make a lot of sense. For me, I think after Johnson, Bowe and Rice are the two best wide outs. If we went Bowe in one and Weedle in two (like Partial said), those would be two great picks. When it comes down to it am all for drafting anyone as long as they don't turn out to be busts. If you keep drafting good players ever year the team is bound to be good eventually.

[Packnut]

Hey Packnut were have you been hiding?

I enjoyed your thoughts and they make a lot of sense. For me, I think after Johnson, Bowe and Rice are the two best wide outs. If we went Bowe in one and Weedle in two (like Partial said), those would be two great picks. When it comes down to it am all for drafting anyone as long as they don't turn out to be busts. If you keep drafting good players ever year the team is bound to be good eventually.

I'd be all for the Bowe-Weedle combo. As for Rice, I think he made a mistake coming out early. With Spurrier's offense, he could have put up some serious numbers next season. He does have a ton of potential.

[SudsMcBucky]

Packnut...

I'd rather have Lynch / Nelson in the first round (two positions we need the most)...

Then get a WR is second / third round...

Hopefully the Moss trade goes through for a third rounder, but if T.T. picks a WR (like you said) at #1...
You can kiss the Moss rumor goodbye... (I'm pro Moss by the way)

Again... Great Points...

I, too, am pro Moss trade. Trade for Moss, draft Lynch in the first. O would be HUGELY upgraded with those 2 moves. Then, you have options in the second with a best player available among TE, Safety, DL.

[Packnut]

Draft

I'm not a big Bowe fan, but it's all a crapshoot, so who knows.

Your right, it's the biggest game of "flip a coin " that there is.

[ND72]

So, I had a dream last night. Waiting for the Packers pick. at 0:02 left, it was announced that we traded down with the Bears. Bears took Leon Hall...gave us their #31 pick, their 2nd round pick, and their 4th round pick. Unfortunately, I woke up right after the commish said, "With the 31st pick in the 2007 Draft, The Green Bay Packers Select......."


I was pissed.

[run pMc]

I like Bowe and Meacham...according to the draftniks, Bowe might be a slight reach at 16. Most draft boards I've seen have Meacham as the #2 WR in the draft, but I think he'll be right around 15-20, with Bowe in the 20-25 range.

Personally, I wouldn't mind if TT drafted a CB/S early. Dendy isn't going to cut it as a nickel CB (or a starting CB if, God Forbid, Harris/Woodson gets hurt) for 16+ games...he's a dime back/ST guy. Same thing for Manuel at the S spot. Underwood & Blackmon? They need to show something first.

It's hard to predict what TT will do, but RB, WR, and CB/S seem (IMO) like the most likely spots to get a lot of attention. OL & DL depth would help, too.

[Packnut]

Dream

So, I had a dream last night. Waiting for the Packers pick. at 0:02 left, it was announced that we traded down with the Bears. Bears took Leon Hall...gave us their #31 pick, their 2nd round pick, and their 4th round pick. Unfortunately, I woke up right after the commish said, "With the 31st pick in the 2007 Draft, The Green Bay Packers Select......."


I was pissed.

Next time get the damn pick will ya!!!!!!!!

[Packnut]

WR

I like Bowe and Meacham...according to the draftniks, Bowe might be a slight reach at 16. Most draft boards I've seen have Meacham as the #2 WR in the draft, but I think he'll be right around 15-20, with Bowe in the 20-25 range.

Personally, I wouldn't mind if TT drafted a CB/S early. Dendy isn't going to cut it as a nickel CB (or a starting CB if, God Forbid, Harris/Woodson gets hurt) for 16+ games...he's a dime back/ST guy. Same thing for Manuel at the S spot. Underwood & Blackmon? They need to show something first.

It's hard to predict what TT will do, but RB, WR, and CB/S seem (IMO) like the most likely spots to get a lot of attention. OL & DL depth would help, too.

I'm at the point that I'll take any WR at 16!