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  • Originally posted by ahaha
    So, the Raiders got a third round pick from New England, but it wasn't for Moss?
    Yup.
    "I've got one word for you- Dallas, Texas, Super Bowl"- Jermichael Finley

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    • Originally posted by Lurker64
      Originally posted by Partial
      The experts are going to be wrong, wrong, wrong on Branch. He will thrive in the desert.
      The "experts" thought Branch was going to be a blue chip prospect. NFL GMs did not, since every single NFL team passed on him. So if the experts are wrong, then he'll do poorly. Which I would expect, since if you're a big fat guy, it seems like it would be harder play in hot conditions.
      Good point, Lurk, I hadn't thought of that. They're gonna have to get him a lot of water during training camp.
      "I've got one word for you- Dallas, Texas, Super Bowl"- Jermichael Finley

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      • Pittman I can see still on the board but Bush looked like he might have some potential. And before anyone talks about injuries affecting him being picked, remember who we picked in the first round.
        "Once the people find they can vote themselves money, that will herald the end of the Republic.”
        – Benjamin Franklin

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        • Originally posted by Lurker64
          Originally posted by Partial
          The experts are going to be wrong, wrong, wrong on Branch. He will thrive in the desert.
          The "experts" thought Branch was going to be a blue chip prospect. NFL GMs did not, since every single NFL team passed on him. So if the experts are wrong, then he'll do poorly. Which I would expect, since if you're a big fat guy, it seems like it would be harder play in hot conditions.
          In the words of former Packer and Badger Gary Ellerson, "Quit smoking crack".

          He isn't a big fat guy. He is built. He will be an absolutely crushing run stuffer. His entire job should be to neutralize two blockers. He will be one of the premiere run stuffers in the league.

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          • Hmm, intersting So Oakland has traded for Williams, and just picked Johnnie Lee Higgins.. Id say there preparing

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            • Originally posted by The Leaper
              My thoughts on the first day.

              I'm not sold on the Harrell pick. I think he looks to be a solid talent...but he plays the EXACT SAME POSITION as Pickett, who is a reasonably young guy who is coming off a very solid season. He is not a pocket collapsing DT...so are we going to switch our defense now to having two huge run cloggers in the middle? I suppose that could make sense to some extent with the huge money we've tied up in Hawk and Barnett...who need some size in front of them to take advantage of their speed from sideline to sideline. I would have preferred Willis or Nelson at this spot based on who was remaining on the board.

              I am sold on the Jackson pick. Between Pittman and Jackson, I think Jackson is the better fit for Green Bay. While I actually like Pittman a little better, IMO he is very similar to Morency...who I also like. Jackson will be a more powerful runner who can become a threat in short yardage situations. I think the duo of Morency and Jackson has a chance to be very effective in Green Bay.

              Jones at WR was a sleeper pick who represents good value...but this is NOT the kind of guy who is going to solve our offensive woes. To me, he is the eventual replacement for Driver in 2-3 years. The guy reminds me a lot of Driver...great heart, fearless over the middle, quickness in short spurts to create separation.

              I also like the Rouse pick. Athletically, the guy is a beast. He's big...he's pretty fast for his size. He has reasonable intelligence. In the third round, he's a reasonable pick at safety in terms of providing immediate depth in case some of our questions there do not pan out.

              Right now...I give Thompson a B- on the first day. He's filled some holes in a couple areas, but he hasn't filled the massive lack of playmakers on offense outside of Driver. Thompson HAS to feel that he has an inside track on grabbing Randy Moss for a reasonable value...otherwise, I would think he more aggressively goes for a receiver in the 2nd round.
              I wish I had you for a teacher . I would rate TT a C- because we did not go BPA #1.
              "Once the people find they can vote themselves money, that will herald the end of the Republic.”
              – Benjamin Franklin

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              • He's not an incredible athlete and not near the prospect that a guy like Peterson is, but take a look at Brandon Jackson's highlight video.



                His running style looks a lot like Edgerrin James to me. (I'm not saying he'll be that good, but his running style looks like Edge.)
                "There's a lot of interest in the draft. It's great. But quite frankly, most of the people that are commenting on it don't know anything about what they are talking about."--Ted Thompson

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                • Originally posted by Merlin
                  Originally posted by The Leaper
                  My thoughts on the first day.

                  I'm not sold on the Harrell pick. I think he looks to be a solid talent...but he plays the EXACT SAME POSITION as Pickett, who is a reasonably young guy who is coming off a very solid season. He is not a pocket collapsing DT...so are we going to switch our defense now to having two huge run cloggers in the middle? I suppose that could make sense to some extent with the huge money we've tied up in Hawk and Barnett...who need some size in front of them to take advantage of their speed from sideline to sideline. I would have preferred Willis or Nelson at this spot based on who was remaining on the board.

                  I am sold on the Jackson pick. Between Pittman and Jackson, I think Jackson is the better fit for Green Bay. While I actually like Pittman a little better, IMO he is very similar to Morency...who I also like. Jackson will be a more powerful runner who can become a threat in short yardage situations. I think the duo of Morency and Jackson has a chance to be very effective in Green Bay.

                  Jones at WR was a sleeper pick who represents good value...but this is NOT the kind of guy who is going to solve our offensive woes. To me, he is the eventual replacement for Driver in 2-3 years. The guy reminds me a lot of Driver...great heart, fearless over the middle, quickness in short spurts to create separation.

                  I also like the Rouse pick. Athletically, the guy is a beast. He's big...he's pretty fast for his size. He has reasonable intelligence. In the third round, he's a reasonable pick at safety in terms of providing immediate depth in case some of our questions there do not pan out.

                  Right now...I give Thompson a B- on the first day. He's filled some holes in a couple areas, but he hasn't filled the massive lack of playmakers on offense outside of Driver. Thompson HAS to feel that he has an inside track on grabbing Randy Moss for a reasonable value...otherwise, I would think he more aggressively goes for a receiver in the 2nd round.
                  I wish I had you for a teacher . I would rate TT a C- because we did not go BPA #1.

                  ????

                  How did he not go BPA? Otherwise why would they go for a position we are established at? If he wanted to fill a need he'd have taken Meachem, Olson or Nelson. Taking BPA is exactly what he did.

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                  • I would think all of the Moss trade stuff can go away now. I don't know what we have to offer them since they got 2 QB's and we don't have anything higher then a 4th to offer and the Raiders already said no to that. Although it appears that they are looking to replace a WR, who's to say it isn't a long term thing.
                    "Once the people find they can vote themselves money, that will herald the end of the Republic.”
                    – Benjamin Franklin

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                    • Originally posted by Merlin
                      I wish I had you for a teacher . I would rate TT a C- because we did not go BPA #1.
                      I think Thompson DID consider Harrell BPA at #16. You might not have, but he did...so how can you be so critical of him? It wasn't like DT was the pressing need position that THompson reached to fill.
                      My signature has NUDITY in it...whatcha gonna do?

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                      • Bubble

                        I hate to burst anyone's bubble but Thompson did'nt make 1 pick that made us a better team. We had no need at DT and tacking a guy who has a history of injuries is just plain dumb. However, let's just hold our breath and HOPE he stays healthy.

                        The RB taken is not better than Morency and I'll bet anyone he won't be starting.

                        The WR is nothing different than Martin or Holliday. I find it funny that a few of the same people who derided Bowe for being slow, are boasting about this guy. This years version of C Rodgers.

                        Great saftey pick IF you have a cover saftey at the other spot. Sorry but coverage is'nt Nick's forte at the moment. Basic football 101 my friends. You don't run a scheme that puts your saftey in man coverage when he can't cover! We found that out the hard way with Manuel.

                        Those of you who think this draft is solid are just wishing and dreaming. After day 1 of the draft, Thompson did NOTHING to address any of our weakness. This is not a better football team. One more thing, a few of you have stated that fans can't know more than a GM. That's pure bullshit. The NFL is littered with GM's who were fired for making the wrong picks. Fan's who eat sleep and live football do have a good idea of player talent.

                        Be blind and trust in Teddy, but remember- lambs get slaughtered.......

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                        • Originally posted by Merlin
                          Originally posted by The Leaper
                          My thoughts on the first day.

                          I'm not sold on the Harrell pick. I think he looks to be a solid talent...but he plays the EXACT SAME POSITION as Pickett, who is a reasonably young guy who is coming off a very solid season. He is not a pocket collapsing DT...so are we going to switch our defense now to having two huge run cloggers in the middle? I suppose that could make sense to some extent with the huge money we've tied up in Hawk and Barnett...who need some size in front of them to take advantage of their speed from sideline to sideline. I would have preferred Willis or Nelson at this spot based on who was remaining on the board.

                          I am sold on the Jackson pick. Between Pittman and Jackson, I think Jackson is the better fit for Green Bay. While I actually like Pittman a little better, IMO he is very similar to Morency...who I also like. Jackson will be a more powerful runner who can become a threat in short yardage situations. I think the duo of Morency and Jackson has a chance to be very effective in Green Bay.

                          Jones at WR was a sleeper pick who represents good value...but this is NOT the kind of guy who is going to solve our offensive woes. To me, he is the eventual replacement for Driver in 2-3 years. The guy reminds me a lot of Driver...great heart, fearless over the middle, quickness in short spurts to create separation.

                          I also like the Rouse pick. Athletically, the guy is a beast. He's big...he's pretty fast for his size. He has reasonable intelligence. In the third round, he's a reasonable pick at safety in terms of providing immediate depth in case some of our questions there do not pan out.

                          Right now...I give Thompson a B- on the first day. He's filled some holes in a couple areas, but he hasn't filled the massive lack of playmakers on offense outside of Driver. Thompson HAS to feel that he has an inside track on grabbing Randy Moss for a reasonable value...otherwise, I would think he more aggressively goes for a receiver in the 2nd round.
                          I wish I had you for a teacher . I would rate TT a C- because we did not go BPA #1.
                          Considering the BPA at #16 was Brady Quinn...

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                          • Originally posted by The Leaper
                            My thoughts on the first day.

                            I'm not sold on the Harrell pick. I think he looks to be a solid talent...but he plays the EXACT SAME POSITION as Pickett, who is a reasonably young guy who is coming off a very solid season. He is not a pocket collapsing DT...so are we going to switch our defense now to having two huge run cloggers in the middle? I suppose that could make sense to some extent with the huge money we've tied up in Hawk and Barnett...who need some size in front of them to take advantage of their speed from sideline to sideline. I would have preferred Willis or Nelson at this spot based on who was remaining on the board.

                            I am sold on the Jackson pick. Between Pittman and Jackson, I think Jackson is the better fit for Green Bay. While I actually like Pittman a little better, IMO he is very similar to Morency...who I also like. Jackson will be a more powerful runner who can become a threat in short yardage situations. I think the duo of Morency and Jackson has a chance to be very effective in Green Bay.

                            Jones at WR was a sleeper pick who represents good value...but this is NOT the kind of guy who is going to solve our offensive woes. To me, he is the eventual replacement for Driver in 2-3 years. The guy reminds me a lot of Driver...great heart, fearless over the middle, quickness in short spurts to create separation.

                            I also like the Rouse pick. Athletically, the guy is a beast. He's big...he's pretty fast for his size. He has reasonable intelligence. In the third round, he's a reasonable pick at safety in terms of providing immediate depth in case some of our questions there do not pan out.

                            Right now...I give Thompson a B- on the first day. He's filled some holes in a couple areas, but he hasn't filled the massive lack of playmakers on offense outside of Driver. Thompson HAS to feel that he has an inside track on grabbing Randy Moss for a reasonable value...otherwise, I would think he more aggressively goes for a receiver in the 2nd round.

                            In hindsight, losing to the Bears in the final week would've helped this team a lot going forward. An additional 3-5 spots really could've helped us in this draft.
                            A lot of great points
                            TERD Buckley over Troy Vincent, Robert Ferguson over Chris Chambers, Kevn King instead of TJ Watt, and now, RICH GANNON, over JIMMY JIMMY JIMMY LEONARD. Thank you FLOWER

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                            • Well guys..I'm off. It's been a fun draft day. Harrell looks like he could be pretty impactfull. The RB looks solid and will likely play a big part in our offense. It's always nice to have WR's that catch everything and the safetly looks like a special teamer to me. I agree that putting a rookie with Collins is just scary..

                              See ya's tomorrow. I mgiht be around a little less because I have homework and a family to tend to..
                              Formerly known as JustinHarrell.

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                              • Originally posted by The Leaper
                                Originally posted by Merlin
                                I wish I had you for a teacher . I would rate TT a C- because we did not go BPA #1.
                                I think Thompson DID consider Harrell BPA at #16. You might not have, but he did...so how can you be so critical of him?
                                Beer
                                I can't run no more
                                With that lawless crowd
                                While the killers in high places
                                Say their prayers out loud
                                But they've summoned, they've summoned up
                                A thundercloud
                                They're going to hear from me - Leonard Cohen

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