Official 2007 Live Draft Thread

[Merlin]

My thoughts on the first day.

I'm not sold on the Harrell pick. I think he looks to be a solid talent...but he plays the EXACT SAME POSITION as Pickett, who is a reasonably young guy who is coming off a very solid season. He is not a pocket collapsing DT...so are we going to switch our defense now to having two huge run cloggers in the middle? I suppose that could make sense to some extent with the huge money we've tied up in Hawk and Barnett...who need some size in front of them to take advantage of their speed from sideline to sideline. I would have preferred Willis or Nelson at this spot based on who was remaining on the board.

I am sold on the Jackson pick. Between Pittman and Jackson, I think Jackson is the better fit for Green Bay. While I actually like Pittman a little better, IMO he is very similar to Morency...who I also like. Jackson will be a more powerful runner who can become a threat in short yardage situations. I think the duo of Morency and Jackson has a chance to be very effective in Green Bay.

Jones at WR was a sleeper pick who represents good value...but this is NOT the kind of guy who is going to solve our offensive woes. To me, he is the eventual replacement for Driver in 2-3 years. The guy reminds me a lot of Driver...great heart, fearless over the middle, quickness in short spurts to create separation.

I also like the Rouse pick. Athletically, the guy is a beast. He's big...he's pretty fast for his size. He has reasonable intelligence. In the third round, he's a reasonable pick at safety in terms of providing immediate depth in case some of our questions there do not pan out.

Right now...I give Thompson a B- on the first day. He's filled some holes in a couple areas, but he hasn't filled the massive lack of playmakers on offense outside of Driver. Thompson HAS to feel that he has an inside track on grabbing Randy Moss for a reasonable value...otherwise, I would think he more aggressively goes for a receiver in the 2nd round.

I wish I had you for a teacher . I would rate TT a C- because we did not go BPA #1.

????

How did he not go BPA? Otherwise why would they go for a position we are established at? If he wanted to fill a need he'd have taken Meachem, Olson or Nelson. Taking BPA is exactly what he did.

Really? If the BPA was an injured DT then this draft class is the worst in NFL history. Quinn was the BPA. How many records does Harrell have? How many seasons did he play all of the games? I am not arguing this anymore. It's obvious that people don't use any sort of reason when thinking about a player. "So and so is better then so and so because he was drafted #2 and even though a guy is injured and has a history he is the BPA".

[pittstang5]

Day 2 I'd like to see Green Bay take a OT, one I really like is out of N. Illinois, Doug Free. He's a little Tall 6'7" 318, has room to add 10-15 lbs, and not lose any mobility. Can cut and pull, good quickness for a lineman. I think he'd be a good one to develop, if we got him in the fourth or 5th. I thought he'd be long gone by now. He'd be a good insurance policy, in case one of our tackles got injured.

http://www.nfl.com/draft/profiles/2007/free_doug

Yes, the Pack needs to start grooming an LT behind Clifton. I like Free too. Another to throw out there - Allen Barbre.

[The Leaper]

I would think all of the Moss trade stuff can go away now.

Why would it go away? Are the Raiders really going to pay $10M this year to a guy who has openly quit on the team? Is Randy really going to be happy in Oakland on a team without one single prime time game?

Thompson knows the Raiders want to get rid of Moss...and eventually they will accept less for him to give their new coaching staff a fair chance of moving forward without a lead anchor dragging the team down.

[The Leaper]

Really? If the BPA was an injured DT then this draft class is the worst in NFL history. Quinn was the BPA.

So you are in favor of carrying THREE QBs on the roster with first-round level salaries? Five other teams BEHIND Green Bay also passed on Quinn.

I can't recall any NFL teams since the advent of the salary cap who have invested that kind of money in three different QBs at the same time.

[Merlin]

For those of you who are defending TT's selections, did you defend Sherman when he made his? Or did you bash him? Because in my mind, TT is not having a good day 1 because of his #1 pick. Jamal Renolds anyone?

[Partial]

My thoughts on the first day.

I'm not sold on the Harrell pick. I think he looks to be a solid talent...but he plays the EXACT SAME POSITION as Pickett, who is a reasonably young guy who is coming off a very solid season. He is not a pocket collapsing DT...so are we going to switch our defense now to having two huge run cloggers in the middle? I suppose that could make sense to some extent with the huge money we've tied up in Hawk and Barnett...who need some size in front of them to take advantage of their speed from sideline to sideline. I would have preferred Willis or Nelson at this spot based on who was remaining on the board.

I am sold on the Jackson pick. Between Pittman and Jackson, I think Jackson is the better fit for Green Bay. While I actually like Pittman a little better, IMO he is very similar to Morency...who I also like. Jackson will be a more powerful runner who can become a threat in short yardage situations. I think the duo of Morency and Jackson has a chance to be very effective in Green Bay.

Jones at WR was a sleeper pick who represents good value...but this is NOT the kind of guy who is going to solve our offensive woes. To me, he is the eventual replacement for Driver in 2-3 years. The guy reminds me a lot of Driver...great heart, fearless over the middle, quickness in short spurts to create separation.

I also like the Rouse pick. Athletically, the guy is a beast. He's big...he's pretty fast for his size. He has reasonable intelligence. In the third round, he's a reasonable pick at safety in terms of providing immediate depth in case some of our questions there do not pan out.

Right now...I give Thompson a B- on the first day. He's filled some holes in a couple areas, but he hasn't filled the massive lack of playmakers on offense outside of Driver. Thompson HAS to feel that he has an inside track on grabbing Randy Moss for a reasonable value...otherwise, I would think he more aggressively goes for a receiver in the 2nd round.

I wish I had you for a teacher . I would rate TT a C- because we did not go BPA #1.

????

How did he not go BPA? Otherwise why would they go for a position we are established at? If he wanted to fill a need he'd have taken Meachem, Olson or Nelson. Taking BPA is exactly what he did.

Really? If the BPA was an injured DT then this draft class is the worst in NFL history. Quinn was the BPA. How many records does Harrell have? How many seasons did he play all of the games? I am not arguing this anymore. It's obvious that people don't use any sort of reason when thinking about a player. "So and so is better then so and so because he was drafted #2 and even though a guy is injured and has a history he is the BPA".

If Adrian Peterson, with his lack of records and injury history, who is currently injured, be the BPA if he was there? You can say Brady Quinn was the BPA, but that is YOUR opinion. Since 22 teams passed on a potential franchise quarterback, I reckon he wasn't the BPA, otherwise teams wouldn't have let him slip.

[Lurker64]

He isn't a big fat guy. He is built. He will be an absolutely crushing run stuffer. His entire job should be to neutralize two blockers. He will be one of the premiere run stuffers in the league.

He's enormous, and he's a force inside clogging the middle, but that doesn't mean he's not also a big fat guy. The premier run stuffers in the league are big fat guys like Pat Williams. Anyway one of the major knocks against Branch are his weight and stamina, neither of which aren't going to be hindrances in the heat.

[BallHawk]

I'm off to bed. I'll be back tomorrow, on the account I have nothing else to do.

It's been fun. 'Night all.

[Merlin]

Really? If the BPA was an injured DT then this draft class is the worst in NFL history. Quinn was the BPA.

So you are in favor of carrying THREE QBs on the roster with first-round level salaries?

You, then, are an idiot. I can't recall any NFL teams since the advent of the salary cap who have invested that kind of money in three different QBs at the same time.

I think the only idiot would be the person who didn't read why I thought we should take Quinn. I said why several times. I never said to carry 3 starter salary QB's on the roster. And only an idiot would call an injured DT who has yet to play a full season of college ball a better player then Brady Quinn.

[The Leaper]

For those of you who are defending TT's selections, did you defend Sherman when he made his? Or did you bash him? Because in my mind, TT is not having a good day 1 because of his #1 pick. Jamal Renolds anyone?

You are already writing off the guy without one snap on the field.

Pathetic.

[Partial]

For those of you who are defending TT's selections, did you defend Sherman when he made his? Or did you bash him? Because in my mind, TT is not having a good day 1 because of his #1 pick. Jamal Renolds anyone?

Comparing an undersized defensive end not known for his toughness and form, to a supersized, tough player who has such good form florida had to double team him even he had only one functioning arm?

[Partial]

He isn't a big fat guy. He is built. He will be an absolutely crushing run stuffer. His entire job should be to neutralize two blockers. He will be one of the premiere run stuffers in the league.

He's enormous, and he's a force inside clogging the middle, but that doesn't mean he's not also a big fat guy. The premier run stuffers in the league are big fat guys like Pat Williams. Anyway one of the major knocks against Branch are his weight and stamina, neither of which aren't going to be hindrances in the heat.

His weight is pretty standard for his height. He's 6'7", remember. He'll be alright. His stamina will improve in the NFL.

[Merlin]

For those of you who are defending TT's selections, did you defend Sherman when he made his? Or did you bash him? Because in my mind, TT is not having a good day 1 because of his #1 pick. Jamal Renolds anyone?

You are already writing off the guy without one snap on the field.

Pathetic.

You are already crowning him God without taking one snap, pathetic.

[SD GB fan]

wow i was watching the yahoo vid on justin harrell. he made some impressive INTs. maybe thats why TT picked him

[Tarlam!]

Well, at this time last year, we had Hawk and 2 guys I knew NUTHIN about.

I was ecstatic over Hawk, and that rode my emotions to accept Colldge and Jennings.

This year, I have 4 new Packer players to cheer for, that I know NUTHIN about.

Let's hope they turn out like the abovementioned.