Official 2007 Live Draft Thread

[packers11]

What time does round 4 start....

12 est?

Anyone??? I want to make sure I wake up in time

[Tony Oday]

[quote=Merlin]

Do you ever read anything in context or do you just make shit up as you go along?

Shut the hell up.

You tell ME to get manners when YOU lambast Thompson as being a mediocre...and therefore idiotic...GM because he did not select Brady Quinn as the BPA because that was YOUR opinion of who was BPA.

That is hilarious.

Make me shut up. The only people that can do that here are the moderators and that isn't you. If they ban me or whatever so be it. I don't have to take any crap from you. Unless you want to bring your big mouth up here and take me out I suggest you learn how to talk to people. It isn't only MY opinion, it is the opinion of many many many people. TT is a public figure and therefore it is common place for people to express their like or dislike. You don't walk up to someone you don't know and call them an idiot because they don't agree with you. There is a difference, it's called context. Look it up.

WHOA folks settle down here its just the draft. When Moss is in Green and Gold for a 4th rounder we will be happy

[Packnut]

Opinion

Gee, look's like others who make a living covering the Packers are less than thrilled also. But, then what does he know right?

http://www.packersnews.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20070428/PKR01/70428060/1989

[Merlin]

For those of you who are defending TT's selections, did you defend Sherman when he made his? Or did you bash him? Because in my mind, TT is not having a good day 1 because of his #1 pick. Jamal Renolds anyone?

Comparing an undersized defensive end not known for his toughness and form, to a supersized, tough player who has such good form florida had to double team him even he had only one functioning arm?

That wasn't the point. The point is TT didn't go BPA and everyone was all over Sherman for his drafting but TT get's a pass?

If its any consolation I thought he should have taken Quinn, too. However, I don't think this guy will be bad. I actually think he could turn out to be a steal. I think Quinn is a steal as well.

I don't argue that the guy is bad. My argument is that he isn't a first round talent. He will now be paid as a first rounder and to be honest I think they guy is a reach. If he comes back healthy, he has some potential. His impact though will be minimal because we already have a decent DL. He may make it better, he may not.

What if he performs like another Tennessee DT named John Henderson? He is a little shorter, but he has long arms and a big bubble. He'll be a good player. Definitely will walk in as a starter.

Sure, but what if he doesn't? The signs today are that he will not. I hope he works out, I really do. I just hate all the hype because he isn't all that, yet.

[Charles Woodson]

Aha well it could be worse

Dolphins fans are PISSED

The Dolphins passed on a franchise qaurterback for a kick/punt returner! The Dolphins should not be allowed to handle their own draft.
CMal3

I am a lifelong Dolphins fan, and now I think I'm going to pick a new team. I can't believe that they seriously did not pick Quinn. That dumb pick set the team back another 10 years. I tried to call the main office and their are "closed", and I think it is bring your kid to work day … and the kid got to make the pick. The Dolphins are dead to me, and Cameron is the Wannstadt (sp?)
—tgrant980

Now I know how Houston fans feel! If Randy doesn't have some trick up his sleeve and is trading Ginn for a player and pick then Im going to cancel my season tix. Just another example of the front office dropping the ball. We seriously need Pioli!
—m_ratti

Cam Cameron should go back to his High School Alma Mater and Coach there, because he just made the biggest mistake of his professional life. Looks like Jason Taylor and the Defense will still have to carry the entire team
—timshady5k

[The Leaper]

It isn't only MY opinion, it is the opinion of many many many people.

I'd like to see the MANY MANY MANY people who said Thompson was foolish to not take Brady Quinn at #16.

Please Merlin...indulge me.

[Tony Oday]

I was all about the Pack taking Quinn and trading rogers and a pick for Moss.

[pittstang5]

Merlin and Leaper - start another thread or something, I'm tired of reading your constant pickering back and forth. :P

[Packnut]

Clayton

And this from Clayton on the losers in this draft:




3. Brett Favre -- for now: Favre came back from potential retirement for a playoff run, but he's waiting for a big push from the Packers' personnel department. The wait netted him backup cornerback Frank Walker in free agency. That's it. Unless he was cutting the grass on his tractor, Favre might have been sitting around waiting for the Packers to acquire a big, fast receiver like Robert Meachem or find the running back to replace Ahman Green, who left for Houston to reunite with former Packers head coach Mike Sherman. The first round gave him defensive tackle Justin Harrell, a good lineman who fills a need. Brandon Jackson, a running back from Nebraska, went to the Packers in the second round but many thought he would go in the third, just like Green did years ago. Don't get me wrong: Jackson is a good sleeper back, better than people think. He's tough, he runs hard, and he should help. But sleepers may not wake up a quarterback waiting for greatness. Sounds to me like the Packers need to make that final push to get Randy Moss to satisfy Favre. That could happen Sunday. Favre might stop weeding the garden for that.

[Partial]

Re: Opinion

Gee, look's like others who make a living covering the Packers are less than thrilled also. But, then what does he know right?




http://www.packersnews.com/apps/pbcs.../70428060/1989

Were you thrilled with Greg Jennings, though? Will you admit he was a pleasant surprise. In TT I trust.

[packers11]

Favre is on his way to T.T.'s house with a machete... Don't worry, Randy Moss will be in GB tomorrow

[Merlin]

I'm still waiting to hear how we can draft Brady Quinn at #16 and not have three starting QB contracts on the roster.

21 teams didn't want Quinn...it isn't like we are going to get our value back on him in a trade.

Rodgers carries too high a cap number at this point to write off and trade.

Dumping Favre would be far more foolish than any of Thompson's draft choices.

Do you even know what Rodgers cap number is? Do you know his salary? Do you know that he doesn't get paid shit? He doesn't make shit until he becomes the starter. Cutting him is not a major cap hit and Quinn would get a similar contract. His signing bonus was small and he got a big bonus in 2006 (I believe) but even that wasn't a cap killer. So YES, we could have all three and the cap would be fine. However, we would trade one of them. AS far as round value, what kind of value do we get for the guy we drafted #1 if he is a bust? It's all a gamble.

[The Leaper]

Sorry Tony...I'm talking credible guys in the media who are talking to scouts and team officials.

I can't recall seeing one single person critical of Thompson for not taking Quinn.

I think any argument claiming that TT is foolish for not taking BPA because Quinn was the guy you thought was BPA at #16 is ridiculous. The guy fell 22 spots. Thompson did not reach for a player at a position of need.

All signs point to the fact that Thompson did in fact that the guy he felt was the BPA at #16. You may disagree with his assessment, but to openly question why people aren't jumping Thompson's ass for not taking the BPA over Brady Quinn is ridiculous.

[Charles Woodson]

Hmm interesting, Our last RB Ahman Green also was from Nebraska, just like Jackson

[Partial]

It isn't only MY opinion, it is the opinion of many many many people.

I'd like to see the MANY MANY MANY people who said Thompson was foolish to not take Brady Quinn at #16.

Please Merlin...indulge me.

Me. Simply because its a quarterback who would have gone #1 the past two years. He has the pedigree and work ethic. He's gonna be a good one. Since we have Favre at least this year and possibly next, I would have moved Rodgers for a 4th-5th-6th-whatever and moved on. I am sure he'll never admit it, but I would think that anyone who is competitive enough to get to be this level of athlete does not enjoy sitting on the bench for the first three to four years of his career.