Originally posted by Bretsky
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Pissed off doesn't even begin to describe what I am feeling right now. TT is an idiot. Our defense was one maybe two players away from being great. With a season under their belt they will be much improved in 2007 even if they do nothing with the personnel. Defenses DO NOT WIN CHAMPIONSHIPS IF THE OFFENSE CANNOT SCORE A DAMN POINT!
TT had better be trading this wasted pick to a team that actually wanted him.,.."Once the people find they can vote themselves money, that will herald the end of the Republic.”
– Benjamin Franklin
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You'll see plenty of points with Favre, Brandon Jackson, Driver, Moss and Jennings.Originally posted by packerbacker1234if we can't score we can't win.
The only thing that will be a saving grace to me for TT this draft is a trade for moss.
Truly, I give up defending him.
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Originally posted by BretskyOriginally posted by 4and12to12and4Who f'n cares. We don't need a receiver at that spot that won't even make the team over the guys we have.Originally posted by Brando19And returning.Originally posted by packinpatlandHow good is he at catching and running the ball?????????Originally posted by PackgatorHarrell can play! He is a force.
Wow
We have two starting calibur WR's. That's it. Then we have #5 guys and a player that may or may not get reinstated.
We need a WR a hell of a lot more than we needed another DL.
Bullshit. Robinson will start and be great. He would start on just about every team in the nfl. So, with him and driver and jennings and all the other young talent that showed up in the last game, Meachum would've suffered the same fate as the other "great return guy" we got in last years draft that is bagging groceries right now."...one thing about me during the course of a game, I get emotional and say things my grandmother lets me know about later. But nobody wants to win on that field anymore than I do, no one." Brett Favre
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There is no such a thing as a "reach" in this draft.
There's one blue chip player. Calvin Johnson.
About a half dozen red chippers.
Everyone else is pretty even in the first round.
And again, the media position rankings and mocks are by amateurs.
DEFENSE!!! DEFENSE!!more freedom, less government. Go Sarah!
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I'm not that upset. I've overreacted at draft time before, but the kid is talented. If he stays healthy, maybe he's the stud on the interior that really sets the defense up for success. I'd also let this play out and see if we get a good WR later on (maybe Moss, maybe Rice or somebody like that). Glaring hole at RB, but any guy on the board would have been a major reach. Maybe we can fill the WR hole later. No TE was worth the #16 pick. You don't overreach for need. Marriage between need and BPA appeared to be S, but who knows. Maybe Nelson came across poorly to the Packers. I know there are some questions about his character and his intelligence. Maybe they felt a pairing of Collins and Nelson wouldn't work out."There's a lot of interest in the draft. It's great. But quite frankly, most of the people that are commenting on it don't know anything about what they are talking about."--Ted Thompson
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I would say at this point that a Moss trade is out of the question. TT should have traded the #1 overall for Moss straight up. We would get a probowl WR for at least 3 years (or a rookie who may bolt after 3 years) who can produce NOW.
WHAT A DUMBASS....
I sure hope the Packers management is watching because TT, THIS ISN'T YOUR GOD DAMN TEAM!"Once the people find they can vote themselves money, that will herald the end of the Republic.”
– Benjamin Franklin
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Weakness
Hey, I'm not asking anyone to take my word for it. Here it is:
Strengths: Is tall with adequate bulk and even more room on his frame to get bigger. He caries his weight extremely well and is a fluid athlete for his size. Shows good initial quickness and the ability to disrupt the run consistently. Is able to change directions quickly and also shows some closing burst for such a big defender. He is big enough to hold his ground versus the run when he gets good positioning and stays low. He displays above average lower body strength to clog a gap versus the run. He can push the pocket and uses long arms to disrupt the vision of opposing quarterbacks. He showed impressive leadership and toughness with his willingness to play through a biceps tear during the Florida game as a senior in 2006.
Weaknesses: He has never been very productive as a pass rusher. He seems to lack awareness and instincts in that regard. He also needs to use his hands better in order to get off of blocks. He is stout versus the run but lacks explosive upper body strength to jar offensive linemen initially. Durability is a significant issue after partially torn biceps injury cost him the final 10 games of his senior season in 2006. He also missed time with leg and ankle injuries in 2003 and another ankle injury in 2004.
Overall: Harrell was redshirted in 2002. In 2003, he missed the first five games with a broken ankle and then appeared in the remaining eight games, registering 10 total tackles and one tackle for loss. Harrell underwent right leg surgery midway through spring practice in March, 2004. He returned in the fall, played in all 13 games, starting the first 11 before being removed from the Kentucky game (ankle injury) and then held out of the starting lineup for the final two games. Harrell finished that season with 26 total tackles, 4.5 tackles for loss, 1.5 sacks, 12 quarterback hurries, two forced fumbles, and two fumble recoveries. He started all 11 games in 2005 and recorded 39 total tackles, 7.5 tackles for loss, 2.5 sacks, two forced fumbles, and two interceptions, returning one for a touchdown. Harrell played in and started just three games in 2006, finishing with seven total tackles and 1.5 tackles for loss. He ruptured a biceps tendon against Air Force (9/9) but played the following week against Florida before shutting it down for the season.
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Exactly, Johnson was the only sure really good 1st rounder without a doubt. I like the pick, Meach and co. wouldnt even had made the team.Originally posted by motifeThere is no such a thing as a "reach" in this draft.
There's one blue chip player. Calvin Johnson.
About a half dozen red chippers.
Everyone else is pretty even in the first round.
And again, the media position rankings and mocks are by amateurs.
DEFENSE!!! DEFENSE!!"...one thing about me during the course of a game, I get emotional and say things my grandmother lets me know about later. But nobody wants to win on that field anymore than I do, no one." Brett Favre
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Originally posted by 4and12to12and4Originally posted by BretskyOriginally posted by 4and12to12and4Who f'n cares. We don't need a receiver at that spot that won't even make the team over the guys we have.Originally posted by Brando19And returning.Originally posted by packinpatlandHow good is he at catching and running the ball?????????Originally posted by PackgatorHarrell can play! He is a force.
Wow
We have two starting calibur WR's. That's it. Then we have #5 guys and a player that may or may not get reinstated.
We need a WR a hell of a lot more than we needed another DL.
Bullshit. Robinson will start and be great. He would start on just about every team in the nfl. So, with him and driver and jennings and all the other young talent that showed up in the last game, Meachum would've suffered the same fate as the other "great return guy" we got in last years draft that is bagging groceries right now.
Do you understand that there is no guarantee that Robinson will even play next year ? He has to APPLY to be reinstated to the NFL at a time when the new commissioner wants to make examples.
He does not get to even practice til four games into the season; counting on him is just downright silly.TERD Buckley over Troy Vincent, Robert Ferguson over Chris Chambers, Kevn King instead of TJ Watt, and now, RICH GANNON, over JIMMY JIMMY JIMMY LEONARD. Thank you FLOWER
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It's laughable how people wanted to go Offense with the first pick when all along it was going to be Defense, the writing was on the wall. TT is building a championship defense, you can't lose if the other team can't score, remember the 02'(i think) Ravens?
I'll bet anyone here via paypal 50$ the Packers D finishes in the top 9 next year, and one of the top 4 in the NFC."I firmly believe that any man's finest hour, the greatest fulfillment of all that he holds dear, is that moment when he has worked his heart out in a good cause and lies exhausted on the field of battle - victorious." - Vince Lombardi
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I guess your right, I was just mad at first because I wanted someone else. I hope he turns out great.Originally posted by motifeThere is no such a thing as a "reach" in this draft.
There's one blue chip player. Calvin Johnson.
About a half dozen red chippers.
Everyone else is pretty even in the first round.
And again, the media position rankings and mocks are by amateurs.
DEFENSE!!! DEFENSE!!Draft Brandin Cooks WR OSU!
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K-Rob is a reach right now since it's out of our hands. We have to DRAFT, TRADE AND SIGN like he isn't a player on our roster because HE ISN'T right now."Once the people find they can vote themselves money, that will herald the end of the Republic.”
– Benjamin Franklin
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