Why I WORRY about Jones.

[The Leaper]

I don' know but Central Michigan didn't play the toughest schedules either so it mgiht not be a tell all.

It was Western Michigan...and the MAC has a far better credibility in terms of delivering NFL caliber talent than the WAC.

[green_bowl_packer]

i did make a note of that when i watched the film, some of his highlights are because the DB's messed up or were out of position. But i still think hes pretty good.

i just think he may have been a reach

When I watched his youtube highlight clip I thought to myself that he should give a portion of his signing bonus to #2 on UNM. He didn't so much torch him as run around him after he fell down, multiple times on multiple plays.

[RashanGary]

I don' know but Central Michigan didn't play the toughest schedules either so it mgiht not be a tell all.

It was Western Michigan...and the MAC has a far better credibility in terms of delivering NFL caliber talent than the WAC.

[RashanGary]

Yeah, LOL..I haven't watched that clip in a few days and I remember it was the guy with dreads for the gold team He sucked.

[packinpatland]

What number pick was Antonia Freeman?

90th pick overall.

You obviously have this info at your ready so..........could you list our starters and # they were picked? thank you, thank you.

[Lurker64]

The things I do like about Jones don't really reflect the quality of opposition he was up against:

1) He has the hands to make the catches that are tough even if nobody is covering you.

2) When he gets the ball, he's going to try to run people over if he can't juke them.

3) He has excellent timing on his jumps in coverage.

I mean, as a rookie he's not going to be running circles around NFL CBs, but what rookie WR does that? But he can certainly catch stuff that's thrown his way and isn't afraid of contact of traffic, and really that's what we need in the red zone.

[MJZiggy]

I wanna see if he gets a chance to get his fingers broken.

[Charles Woodson]

The things I do like about Jones don't really reflect the quality of opposition he was up against:

1) He has the hands to make the catches that are tough even if nobody is covering you.

2) When he gets the ball, he's going to try to run people over if he can't juke them.

3) He has excellent timing on his jumps in coverage.

I mean, as a rookie he's not going to be running circles around NFL CBs, but what rookie WR does that? But he can certainly catch stuff that's thrown his way and isn't afraid of contact of traffic, and really that's what we need in the red zone.

Im sure though that tighter coverage would have cut down on at least some of those highlights. I mean really the corners were flat out awful, and yes thats to his advantage but he is in for a real wake-up call when he realizes it wont be as easy.

[HarveyWallbangers]

Wouldn't all Pac-10 receivers be discredited then? What were the numbers for the defenses that Dwayne Jarrett played? Also, Jarrett had Leinart and Booty throwing him the ball. Who was the San Jose State QB? Is he any good?

[Patler]

Wouldn't all Pac-10 receivers be discredited then? What were the numbers for the defenses that Dwayne Jarrett played? Also, Jarrett had Leinart and Booty throwing him the ball. Who was the San Jose State QB? Is he any good?

Details Harvey, just details!
Isn't it easier just to write the guy off before he plays in a single scrimmage?

Maybe he will wilt in the face of NFL calibre competition.
But maybe he will step up his game to a level he never had to before and will be even better than he was in college.

[Rastak]

Wouldn't all Pac-10 receivers be discredited then? What were the numbers for the defenses that Dwayne Jarrett played? Also, Jarrett had Leinart and Booty throwing him the ball. Who was the San Jose State QB? Is he any good?

Details Harvey, just details!
Isn't it easier just to write the guy off before he plays in a single scrimmage?

Maybe he will wilt in the face of NFL calibre competition.
But maybe he will step up his game to a level he never had to before and will be even better than he was in college.

I don't think the original poster was writing him off, he just said it made him nervous. Look, I'm really fired up about Sidney Rice but the fact is, he's 20 yo (at least that's what I read). They say he's pretty raw. I watch youtube highlights and the dude is lights out. BUT, I can't help but wonder about the scouts negative evaluations on his route running and maturity.


The guy is merely pointing out his competition. We'll all know alot more come the end of August...and we'll know even more in November.

[Patler]

Perhaps I was a bit too harsh, but stating:

I am SO F-ING PISSED we didn't make a move for Jarrett...and have to settle for a one year wonder who put up numbers against some PATHETIC defenses. Hopefully my fears are misguided...but I think the evidence isn't very convincing in favor of Jones being battle tested and ready for the NFL.

sounds a bit more than just nervous!

[Mazzin]

Don't know if this helps anyone, but in my ESPN Mel Kiper Jr. has him going in the 6th round, BUT he does have a SLEEPER symbol next to him, so he was saying he may just be a diamond in the rough.

[HarveyWallbangers]

Abdul Hodge was projected to go in the 2nd round. Thompson "stole" him in the 3rd round. Hodge didn't do shit this year.

Dayrn Colledge and Greg Jennings were considered "reaches". They did well as rookies.

Jason Spitz was projected to go in the 4th-5th round last year. Thompson "reached" for him in the 3rd round. Spitz started at RG.

Tony Moll was projected to go undrafted. Thompson "reached" for him in the 5th round. Moll started 10+ games.

Aaron Rodgers was projected to be a top 10 pick. Thompson "stole" him in the 20s. Rodgers hasn't shown much.

Nick Collins was projected to be a 4th round pick. Thompson "reached" for him in the 2nd round. Collins has started for 2 years.

Mike Montgomery was projected to be a 4th-5th round pick. Thompson "stole" him in the 6th round. He hasn't shown much.

Seems to me, it's more likely than Jones will kick ass than not. The guys that Thompson "reaches" for seem to have a better track record than the guys that Thompson "stole" according to the scouts.

Yes, I understand the reverse has been true. Just trying to point out that the "experts" haven't even been remotely close while judging the Packers drafts recently. Seems to me the Packers scouting staff (which gets paid to do it) is doing a better job than the so-called experts.

[MJZiggy]

Uhhh Harvey? The team scouts ARE the experts...