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Since when has Brett been so committed to us??
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Re: Since when has Brett been so committed to us??
Oh my........are you going to gang up on me? A long standing member of what, The "lets all hang on TT's nuts" club? Get Bent.Originally posted by pbmaxbulldog is a long standing member of the board who has taken on his share of arguments and done well packerblues. I'd be careful about throwing around a trolling charge.
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The retirement talk / I don't want to rebuild talk / I want to win now talk has been going on since at least the 2002 training camp. Peter King had a story on how hard it was to leave the tractor for training camp and how it might be his last year.
And I believe in mid-season 2001, possibly the end of the season, he gave Michael Silver quotes for SI about retirement as well.
He's been dangling this warning for five or six years now. And people keep jumping at the bait.
He isn't the GM. He isn't qualified to be the GM. Sherman couldn't handle both, and the QB might not be as smart as Sherman.Bud Adams told me the franchise he admired the most was the Kansas City Chiefs. Then he asked for more hookers and blow.
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Based on what we've seen up until now, I'd say TT isn't anymore qualified than Brett to be a GM.Originally posted by pbmaxThe retirement talk / I don't want to rebuild talk / I want to win now talk has been going on since at least the 2002 training camp. Peter King had a story on how hard it was to leave the tractor for training camp and how it might be his last year.
And I believe in mid-season 2001, possibly the end of the season, he gave Michael Silver quotes for SI about retirement as well.
He's been dangling this warning for five or six years now. And people keep jumping at the bait.
He isn't the GM. He isn't qualified to be the GM. Sherman couldn't handle both, and the QB might not be as smart as Sherman.
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probably less qualifiedOriginally posted by bbbffl66Based on what we've seen up until now, I'd say TT isn't anymore qualified than Brett to be a GM.Originally posted by pbmaxThe retirement talk / I don't want to rebuild talk / I want to win now talk has been going on since at least the 2002 training camp. Peter King had a story on how hard it was to leave the tractor for training camp and how it might be his last year.
And I believe in mid-season 2001, possibly the end of the season, he gave Michael Silver quotes for SI about retirement as well.
He's been dangling this warning for five or six years now. And people keep jumping at the bait.
He isn't the GM. He isn't qualified to be the GM. Sherman couldn't handle both, and the QB might not be as smart as Sherman.
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I have to second what bulldog is saying.
And I will add this:
We have been unable to attract good offensive FA's BECAUSE of Favre.
Would you sign with a team when the QB has to decide year to year whether he is coming back or not? There are lots of players that would have loved to play with Favre, but why would they make a 3 or 4 year commitment when Favre wouldnt himself?
So now, people want the GM fired - and he is the guy that is working long term plans. Imagine they fire TT, sign some big FA's for a few years and then Favre decides this is his last year. Now Brett is gone and we have all these knee-jerk changes to please one player that has retired?
I dont think that would be very wise.....
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Sorry but we aRE TALKING ABOUT THE PRESENT AND FUTURE, NOT THE PAST. I get sick of him wanting the attention and getting it in regards to his future.Pass Jessica's Law and keep the predators behind bars for 25 years minimum. Vote out liberal, SP judges. Enforce all immigrant laws!
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Does starting that many games mean he gets promoted to GM?
Committment is more than just attendance. Even if that attendance has come at a fantastic physical price. Which it undoubtably has.
The job is QB not QB/GM. The reward for continued excellence can't be hiring the people you want.
Should we have hired Mariucci? Mohringweg?
Originally posted by GBRulzIf starting every game since fall of 1992 isn't committment enough for you, you have issues.Bud Adams told me the franchise he admired the most was the Kansas City Chiefs. Then he asked for more hookers and blow.
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lET'S all be honest, Brett deserves respect and he gets plenty of it. He threw the good will under the proverbial bus with his stupid comments. What are the youngsters now to think when their leader is basicly saying he has nothing on offense, that quickly squashes any good feelings the O might have developed after the 4 game winning streak at years end. The whole organization is partly to blame for this because many of them treat brett with kid gloves. Great leadership Brett!Pass Jessica's Law and keep the predators behind bars for 25 years minimum. Vote out liberal, SP judges. Enforce all immigrant laws!
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Though I may not agree with most of Bulldog's opinions on #4, I think this one is spot on.Originally posted by b bulldoglET'S all be honest, Brett deserves respect and he gets plenty of it. He threw the good will under the proverbial bus with his stupid comments. What are the youngsters now to think when their leader is basicly saying he has nothing on offense, that quickly squashes any good feelings the O might have developed after the 4 game winning streak at years end. The whole organization is partly to blame for this because many of them treat brett with kid gloves. Great leadership Brett!
Venting through the media at a golf tournament looks and is bush league behavior.
It would have been better for him and the team to state a FINITE time table on his stay in Green Bay.
I personally do not care for this draft class, but as I have stated in other threads, we will have to wait and see. I would have preferred a Dwayne Bowe over Harrell. There are just too many red flags with his injuries. We could have gotten Brian Leonard from Rutgers, but we traded down hoping he'd still be there.
It may end up costing them both their jobs, but I do admire McCarthy and TT in one respect. They are saying they are in charge of this team. One player, no matter if they are casting his bust for Canton or not, is not going to influence their decisions.-digital dean
No "TROLLS" allowed!
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Originally posted by pbmaxDoes starting that many games mean he gets promoted to GM?
Committment is more than just attendance. Even if that attendance has come at a fantastic physical price. Which it undoubtably has.
The job is QB not QB/GM. The reward for continued excellence can't be hiring the people you want.
Originally posted by GBRulzIf starting every game since fall of 1992 isn't committment enough for you, you have issues.
Maybe you should tell that to VegasPackFan, who wrote:
"We have been unable to attract good offensive FA's BECAUSE of Favre."
Good grief, now it's Favre's fault b/c he allegedly can't attract offensive FA's??
Freakin' hilarious.
Some of you people want it both ways. Favre should have no opinion on who plays with him (which I agree, that's the GM's job) but attracting FA's, or lack thereof, is his fault.
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