What is bigger, Brett Favre or the Green Bay Packers

[Rastak]

So you bitch to your boss, but he doesn't listen and things continue to get worse. At what point, in an effort to save your own skin, do you go to your bosses boss? I think that is kind of what Bretts doing here. His boss is paddling for a waterfall and doesn't want to turn around.(Sorry about the lame analogies). Brett just wants someone to help paddle the boat back from the abyss.

Umm, that would be Harlen and Jones, not the press at a golf tourney.....

[RashanGary]

So you bitch to your boss, but he doesn't listen and things continue to get worse. At what point, in an effort to save your own skin, do you go to your bosses boss? I think that is kind of what Bretts doing here. His boss is paddling for a waterfall and doesn't want to turn around.(Sorry about the lame analogies). Brett just wants someone to help paddle the boat back from the abyss.

Brett doesn't know that it is an abyss and neither do you for that matter. This has to play out before real judgment can be had. Thompson clearly has less leeway than he did before Favre went public but he does have at least one year to show what he's done.

This is a VERY important year for Thompson. These young guys have to step up and play big or he's going to have a hard time keeping his job.


Collins, Rodgers, Poppinga, Underwood, Hawk, Jennings, Colledge, Spitz, Moll, Hodge, Blackmon, Harrell, Jackson, Jones, et al had better step up. Not all of them have to be starters but most of these guys should step up and replace Sharper, Wahle, Rivera, Walker, Green, Wayne, Diggs, Hunt, and company who were lost.

Nobody knows how good or bad these guys are. As much as we want to run him out of town because Diva Favre doesn't like the off season, the reality of the matter is that it will take some time for any real decisions to be made about Ted Thompson. His guys aren't proven losers yet. When we realize these guys suck then it's time to run TT out.

[motife]

evidently Brett Favre's bigger. One word from him and the whole world turns upside down.

maybe, Brett's the guy pointing out, "the emperor has no clothes".

the wide receiver corps needs to step or this will not be a pretty season.

the Tight ends leave us without a weapon.

the offensive line should be better. the question is are Morency and Jackson?

Is Aaron Rodgers "sponge worthy"? Is he better than David Carr, who could have been obtained for nothing?

[PackerBlues]

What are you talkign about? bulldog said Favre threw his team and GM under the bus. He said the guys he has arn't very good and they did nothing to help the offense. That kind of shit doesn't exactly build confidence in a group of young guys. That said, it's too bad diva athletes get away wtih this but it's part of the game.

The great leaders keep their mouths shut though.

You Trolls want to point out the article that you are quoting when you say this BS? You keep saying that Favre said these things about "the guys he has". Please enlighten us all with where you are getting this complete and utter crap. Seems to me that you dumbshits keep reading into things, then you post whatever the hell you want while claiming that Favre said these things.

I was actually pretty damned sure that nobody could come off as being more of an idiot than bulldog, but for you 'Justin Harrell' to call Brett Favre a "diva"............Congrats, it was close, but you win, you have managed to come off as a bigger idiot than bulldog. No small task, but you pulled it off.

BearsFan4Life? Is that you?

Trolls!!!!!!

[BallHawk]

At this point, it's obvious to me that Brett Favre thinks he is bigger then the team, above everybody else. If he didn't think that, why would he come out and make these comments. He thinks that, since he is so revered, he can say whatever he wants and start a media circus.

There are 52 other players on the Packers, come season, and Favre is no more justified in saying this then any other player. What Favre said was foolish and is already causing trouble.

This is not what you look for from a team leader.

[pbmax]

I don't think that last analogy fits, speaking to the abyss part. Favre is complaining about win now versus rebuild for later. Not a decline into an abyss.

Even some of his heaviest detractors give T2 credit for restocking the roster with younger more talented players overall. I think the skill level on the team is improving and is definitely younger than Sherman's last team.

The debate isn't that Thompson is driving off a cliff, its that he is driving too slow.

If that is my complaint, to take this back to the original analogy, then my only question: is this the direction the company wants to move in?

Given that Harlan aired the fans displeasure about acquiring Moss, I say Harlan is on board the go slow approach. So since my boss is doing what HIS boss wants in terms of direction, my only logical choice: do I want to stay on board during that process?

So you bitch to your boss, but he doesn't listen and things continue to get worse. At what point, in an effort to save your own skin, do you go to your bosses boss? I think that is kind of what Bretts doing here. His boss is paddling for a waterfall and doesn't want to turn around.(Sorry about the lame analogies). Brett just wants someone to help paddle the boat back from the abyss.

[Bretsky]

I don't think that last analogy fits, speaking to the abyss part. Favre is complaining about win now versus rebuild for later. Not a decline into an abyss.

Even some of his heaviest detractors give T2 credit for restocking the roster with younger more talented players overall. I think the skill level on the team is improving and is definitely younger than Sherman's last team.

The debate isn't that Thompson is driving off a cliff, its that he is driving too slow.

If that is my complaint, to take this back to the original analogy, then my only question: is this the direction the company wants to move in?

Given that Harlan aired the fans displeasure about acquiring Moss, I say Harlan is on board the go slow approach. So since my boss is doing what HIS boss wants in terms of direction, my only logical choice: do I want to stay on board during that process?

So you bitch to your boss, but he doesn't listen and things continue to get worse. At what point, in an effort to save your own skin, do you go to your bosses boss? I think that is kind of what Bretts doing here. His boss is paddling for a waterfall and doesn't want to turn around.(Sorry about the lame analogies). Brett just wants someone to help paddle the boat back from the abyss.

I think those comments are accurate

Ted Thompson is doing a decent job restacking this team with talent for the long term

Ted Thompson moves at his own pace and on his own terms. Ted Thompson is the Turtle.

If TT's terms are not met, then he moves on (that is why I never expected Green Bay to land Moss).

[BallHawk]

TT will stick to his plan. In an analogy sense, TT is driving his car to the playoffs and he isn't stopping at a fancy restaurant along the way. Sure, he'll stop at Denny's, Applebee's, maybe TGI Fridays every once in a while, but he isn't stopping at any 5-star steakhouses.

[b bulldog]

Packerblues, when you start growing up and can debate without name calling, we can have a discussion, until than, keep putting some down and never bringing up any points of interest.

[BallHawk]

At this point, it's obvious to me that Brett Favre thinks he is bigger then the team, above everybody else. If he didn't think that, why would he come out and make these comments? He thinks that, since he is so revered, he can say whatever he wants and start a media circus.

There are 52 other players on the Packers, come season, and Favre is no more justified in saying this then any other player. What Favre said was foolish and is already causing trouble.

This is not what you look for from a team leader.

[b bulldog]

It's also obvious that some in here do also. B, I'm not including you in this.

[motife]

Favre's big mouth showing up Javon Walker in the national media was the main reason Walker turned so completely against the team.

[HarveyWallbangers]

Favre's big mouth showing up Javon Walker in the national media was the main reason Walker turned so completely against the team.

Not really. It was the fact that Thompson wouldn't redo his deal. I agreed with Thompson at the time. It was all about money.

[BallHawk]

Favre's big mouth showing up Javon Walker in the national media was the main reason Walker turned so completely against the team.

Ironically, Favre is following in the footsteps of Walker right now.

[HarveyWallbangers]

Ironically, Favre is following in the footsteps of Walker right now.

How? Did I miss something?