What is bigger, Brett Favre or the Green Bay Packers

[PackerBlues]

Actually Walker stated to some that he never wanted to play with Brett again after throwing him under the bus. I agree with Motife but TT also didn't sign him so they were both a bit at fault. I could see why both did and said what they said but many players around the league slammed Brett for those comments.

Are you suggesting that Walker had every right to demand to have his contract torn up and redone with two years left on it? He was a rookie. Thompson was not going to redo his contract, and its just that simple. Walker knew this and lashed out with anything he could come up with to get out of GB so he could chase the money.
Think about all the players in the league that had rookie contracts of 4 or more years. What kind of a message would it send to all of the guys that honored their rookie contracts if GB had given in to Walkers demands. You can blame Favre all you want, but the fact of the matter is........Walker was going to use any excuse he could think of to get out of that contract. Personally, I think Ted should have benched the punk for the final two years of his contract. No, it wouldnt have done the team any good, but it would have sent a message to anyone else that tried the same bs that Walker got away with. (and no, I am not putting the blame on Thompson, it was a screwed up situation and the only person I blame for it is Walker and his greed.)

[pbmax]

Read five posts above for the quote.

What are the youngsters now to think when their leader is basicly saying he has nothing on offense

Again, I am raising the BS flag. You made this up, its not something that Favre said. There is no point debating with someone who ignores facts and makes up complete nonsense to prove their point.

You make a good point. When did Brett say the offense is terrible? After seeing the interview, my impression was that he thinks the offense could have used a weapon like Moss to really make it special. Does that mean he thinks the guys we have are complete s@#t? I don't think so.

[Bretsky]

PFT.com was the source and he stated it before he was traded. Thwe lockerrrom knew he didn't have much love for Brett!

I think there were a few sources indicating Walker felt wronged by Favre; I read every imaginable Packer article and I never heard anything at all about the locker room stuff. I think the bad vibes came from the comments.

But IMO last year's remarks by Javon Walker were more telling. He has issues with the Snapper

[pbmax]

Not sure here Harvey. Garnett has been saying he shouldn't have to leave, the team should do better to make the team better with him. Might have been Favre's message, but multiple sources gave Glazer a different impression.

And Malone was on a championship drive, took off for the Lakers after it was clear the Jazz were rebuilding.

And while Favre is honest, he also has an agenda. I think its clear that the retirement talk wasn't just honesty, it was also a way to put indirect (eventually direct) pressure on the team's front office.

Big deal. Favre wanted Moss. Favre lobbied for weeks to get Moss. Favre thought Thompson was serious about getting Moss. Thompson doesn't get Moss. Favre is upset. He may or may not tell the team privately that he wants to be traded. (Actually, I seriously doubt he did. I bet it was more like "if you don't want to win now, then you might as well trade me" type thing.) Favre is honest to the media about it. He shouldn't have done it, but he's always been honest. Too honest oftentimes.

Favre isn't saying all the much different than a Kevin Garnett has said in the last year. Or a Karl Malone said at the tailend of his career. Just old warriors that think they are running out of chances... being overly honest.

In two weeks, Favre will brag about his great receiving corps.

Mountain... molehill.

[packers11]

Only if that piece of shit didnt go down with an ACL injury... WE WOULD NOT BE TALKING ABOUT RANDY MOSS... WE WOULD NOT BE TALKING ABOUT TRADING BRETT... WE WOULD NOT BE TALKING ABOUT ANOTHER "PLAYING MAKING" WIDE RECIEVER!

How 1 injury can affect a lot of other things...

[b bulldog]

You may be correct but there were sources to the contrary also. Driver even stated Walker and Brett will need to get over it or that they don't need to be buds but they just need to do well on the field together.

[HarveyWallbangers]

Not sure here Harvey. Garnett has been saying he shouldn't have to leave, the team should do better to make the team better with him. Might have been Favre's message, but multiple sources gave Glazer a different impression.

Garnett basically said the GM should be canned. Isn't that throwing the organization under the bus? Who can blame him though! He's also made other statements about his dissatisfaction with the organization. He also made it known he was very pissed when Cassell and Sprewell weren't retained. He never requested a trade, but I doubt Favre seriously requested a trade either. I don't blame either guy. Look, from Favre's perspective, it has to look like Thompson wants him gone. I'm betting he's quite pissed. He loves Green Bay, and wanted to ride off into the sunset--like John Elway. Right or wrong, Thompson is rebuilding the team through the draft--which takes years. Years that Favre doesn't have. This will blow over. Just like last year when Brett was pissed that Thompson didn't sign any offensive FAs.

[ahaha]

Read five posts above for the quote.

What are the youngsters now to think when their leader is basicly saying he has nothing on offense

Again, I am raising the BS flag. You made this up, its not something that Favre said. There is no point debating with someone who ignores facts and makes up complete nonsense to prove their point.

You make a good point. When did Brett say the offense is terrible? After seeing the interview, my impression was that he thinks the offense could have used a weapon like Moss to really make it special. Does that mean he thinks the guys we have are complete s@#t? I don't think so.

from Brett Favre on Saturday:

http://www.sunherald.com/228/story/52533.html

"Our offense struggled last season. If it were not for our defense, we would not have won eight games. Right now, it's hard to be optimistic. I'm not getting any younger and I think everyone knows that. I don't have five years to rebuild. No one in Green Bay is saying rebuild but it's hard to look at where we are going and say, 'How can they not be rebuilding?

This looks like he has confidence in his offense to you?

Maybe not, but it doesn't mean he thinks they're all terrible. If his teamates think they're being "thrown under the bus" and it causes a big rift, then they're a bunch of whiney idiots. More than likely, most of them felt the same way about adding a guy like Moss and how he could have made them better, except maybe the back-up receivers. But, who cares if they're feelings got hurt.

[HarveyWallbangers]

A source close to Favre told the Press-Gazette on Sunday that Favre might have talked about wanting a trade shortly after the draft but has given no such indication recently. Favre finally spoke with coach Mike McCarthy in the last week or so, the first time the two had talked since the draft.

“He wouldn’t be doing these offseason workouts and all that (if he wanted a trade),” the source said. “He’s been busting his (butt). I don’t see him not playing for (the Packers). It wouldn’t surprise me if he told (Cook) or somebody that (he wanted a trade) - he was mad - but he wouldn’t be busting his (butt) like this.”

[BallHawk]

A source close to Favre told the Press-Gazette on Sunday that Favre might have talked about wanting a trade shortly after the draft but has given no such indication recently. Favre finally spoke with coach Mike McCarthy in the last week or so, the first time the two had talked since the draft.

“He wouldn’t be doing these offseason workouts and all that (if he wanted a trade),” the source said. “He’s been busting his (butt). I don’t see him not playing for (the Packers). It wouldn’t surprise me if he told (Cook) or somebody that (he wanted a trade) - he was mad - but he wouldn’t be busting his (butt) like this.”

Well Favre is playing in the NFL in 2007, he's not gonna sit on his ass and which NASCAR all day.