Favre: "I never wanted to be traded."

[gureski]

Ted's not the one saying "sometimes I let my emotions get the better of me". Though I'm not sure if Ted has any emotions.

Letting your emotions get the better of you doesn't necessarily mean you were wrong to be upset. It just says your reaction was inappropriate. I still want to know more about what Thompson did or didn't do with regards to that trade for Moss. I'm left with more questions than answers right now.

[Patler]

Letting your emotions get the better of you doesn't necessarily mean you were wrong to be upset. It just says your reaction was inappropriate. I still want to know more about what Thompson did or didn't do with regards to that trade for Moss. I'm left with more questions than answers right now.

Chances are we will never know for sure. Today I heard an interview with Bob Harlan. What I understood him to say was:

The Packers tried hard to get Moss.
They made an offer they thought would do it.
They were not responded to, nor did they know they had no deal until hearing about the NE deal after the fact on TV.
Consequently, they never had the chance to respond to the NE offer.

[lod01]

Go FAVRE!!!!!

You are the man. Dude just wants to win.

[woodbuck27]

Ted is a robot. He cannot smile, he cannot frown, he cannot cry, he cannot answer questions without saying "I'm not going to talk about that."
There is an old story going around that Ted once told his mother, "I love you." But it's not confirmed and I think it's bullshit.

I sense that Ted Thompson's personality will be 'our Achilles heal' as long as he's our GM.

After Favre it's going to be all uphill with this man as our GM. It's now time to secure some dividents fr. his time in Green Bay in the form of more wins than loss's.

It's all the Ted Thompson show now; therefore shouldn't it all be on TT?

The other thing I'm seeing is that Brett Favre can play in Green Bay as long as he wants through 2010 before he decides to retire. It's obvious to me that his committment as always is 100% there. He'll arrive in Green Bay and do all he can to help us secure wins.

Too bad that Ted Thompson didn't do more to more obviously secure that result since his arrival.

Ted gets praise for securing young players for our OL. What else could he do after we lost our middle of that line with him as our GM?

Ted gets praise for extending players when just that is warranted.

He gets praise for drafting players when many here would do as well in the draft that is nothing but a crap shoot.

He gets praise for doing alot to manage the CAP when otherwise would prove his incompetence.

When has he ever taken a chance - a gamble? When has he ever seen an opportunity to go after a player that should make a huge difference in our win-loss column, in a positive sense?

If TT only offered a 5th to Al Davis (Oakland) to acquire Randy Moss after all the rumors that Moss was imminantly a Packer; and after leaving our running game as it is? Then he should be held accountable.

If he did that then who could fry Brett Favre for venting or otherwise expressing his disappointment?

Many here want us to see TT's human side and to be honest he remains an enigma to me. He's one very strange man.

Well if you want that? Then I say why not cut Brett Favre ( a HOFer and face of the Packers) a break for his human side that's right in your face.

How can you denounce a man such as Brett Favre that only wants to win? Is that too strange for the TT supporters? Is wanting the weapons to win and expressing that such strange conduct?

[pbmax]

Woodbuck, if Favre can play until 2010 (I assume that's when the contract runs out) then why the yearly will I or won't I retire?

Had he committed to playing out the contract, wouldn't the organizational appoach looked a little different?

The other thing I'm seeing is that Brett Favre can play in Green Bay as long as he wants through 2010 before he decides to retire. It's obvious to me that his committment as always is 100% there.He'll arrive in Green Bay and do all he can to help us secure wins.

[retailguy]

Chances are we will never know for sure. Today I heard an interview with Bob Harlan. What I understood him to say was:

The Packers tried hard to get Moss.
They made an offer they thought would do it.
They were not responded to, nor did they know they had no deal until hearing about the NE deal after the fact on TV.
Consequently, they never had the chance to respond to the NE offer.

Could it not also be said, that Ted has made what he thinks about acquisition of veteran players and salary demands pretty clear - "They are worth what they are worth".

If that is the perspective league wide, WHY call back with another offer? The price is the price, the terms are the terms. What suggests that Ted will "negotiate"? Really. I'm not being combative here.

If Ted wanted two seasons from Moss, which is probably true, what suggests he'd change his mind? If Ted refused guaranteed money, even after Brett offered to "essentially" pay it, what suggests he'd change his mind?

Seems to me, if you want to play for the Green Bay Packers, you take the deal that is offered, or you go somewhere else. It seems the only thing not open to negotiation, IS NEGOTIATION. Ted's way - or NO way.

[woodbuck27]

Woodbuck, if Favre can play until 2010 (I assume that's when the contract runs out) then why the yearly will I or won't I retire?

Had he committed to playing out the contract, wouldn't the organizational appoach looked a little different?

The other thing I'm seeing is that Brett Favre can play in Green Bay as long as he wants through 2010 before he decides to retire. It's obvious to me that his committment as always is 100% there.He'll arrive in Green Bay and do all he can to help us secure wins.

pbmax:

Brett Favre wants to feel wanted and valued in Green Bay. He wants to feel that he is worth the money he is paid.

He is one of the most competitive PRO athletes I have ever seen. He is all about winning.

When he see's the results we all have experienced with the Packers over the past two seasons and before that too. He can't help but be disappointed. Like any responsible person he questions his real value and place with the team given his goals.

The main goal is to win.

When he see's his teams agenda obviously in a re-build mode and the GM can't even be honest enought to admit that (which is obvious) then how can he trust TT, given his (Favre's) deemed values,goals and place on the Packers?

[Scott Campbell]

I sense that Ted Thompson's personality will be 'our Achilles heal' as long as he's our GM.

I don't conisder having a sunny disposition as being a critical success factor for a GM.

Is wanting the weapons to win and expressing that such strange conduct?

There's a huge difference between "only wanting to win", and publically whining about how the organization is going about it.

Is wanting the weapons to win and expressing that such strange conduct?

I think it is strange. How many other Packer players have weighed in this offseason with their insightful thoughts on Ted's offseason. Let's ask Nick Collins for his draft grade and analysis. Let's ask Colin Cole about what he thinks of Ted's moves in free agency. Why not ask Tausher when the rookie OT is going to beat out Clifton? Let's ask Donald Driver to discuss the pros and cons of trading Brett Favre.

All the other players have kept their damned mouths shut - thankfully.

[Scott Campbell]

It seems the only thing not open to negotiation, IS NEGOTIATION. Ted's way - or NO way.

The only way?

That's counter to what happened with Harris. That's counter to what happened with Driver? That's counter to what happened with Barnett?

I could go on, but my fingers are getting sore.

[woodbuck27]

I sense that Ted Thompson's personality will be 'our Achilles heal' as long as he's our GM.

I don't conisder having a sunny disposition as being a critical success factor for a GM.

Comment woodbuck27:

How about some DAM balls? How about some honesty? How about the will to work every day to make the Packers better.

EVERY DAY !!!!!

Is wanting the weapons to win and expressing that such strange conduct?

There's a huge difference between "only wanting to win", and publically whining about how the organization is going about it.

Comment woodbuck27:

I am not 100% up on all this bruhaha Scott.

ie What he actually said and the credited sources.My time available to get it all, isn't as it once was.

Is wanting the weapons to win and expressing that such strange conduct?

I think it is strange. How many other Packer players have weighed in this offseason with their insightful thoughts on Ted's offseason. Let's ask Nick Collins for his draft grade and analysis. Let's ask Colin Cole about what he thinks of Ted's moves in free agency. Why not ask Tausher when the rookie OT is going to beat out Clifton? Let's ask Donald Driver to discuss the pros and cons of trading Brett Favre.

All the other players have kept their damned mouths shut - thankfully.

Comment woodbuck27:

I agree that Favre might have remained silent on any disappointment he felt about TT's off season. He is competitive and he wants to win. So he vented.

Was that right or wrong will depend on how each of us view the Packers today in terms of our 2007 campaign and prospectus for a playoff berth. Was that right or wrong may also come in terms based on our individual support for Brett Favre which is all about Packer winning.

GO PACK GO !!

[retailguy]

It seems the only thing not open to negotiation, IS NEGOTIATION. Ted's way - or NO way.

The only way?

That's counter to what happened with Harris. That's counter to what happened with Driver? That's counter to what happened with Barnett?

I could go on, but my fingers are getting sore.

Well, Scott. Apples and oranges, my friend.

Ted has ALWAYS been consistent in public with his desire to retain veterans. He has also ALWAYS been consistent with his "suspicion" and "fear" about veteran talent OUTSIDE the organization.

They aren't the same, and have NEVER been the same or treated the same... Nice try though...

[Scott Campbell]

I get it. So those guys were the oranges?

Does that make Pickett, Woodson and Manual the apples?

[RashanGary]

It's good to have everything back to normal. The drama queen steps out, remembers he's important and then backtracks.



RG, after seeing this crap that Favre pulled, I can't help but have even more understanding for what Sherman tried to do. Favre has been subtly threatening the organization for a number of years and it began as soon as Sherm took over as GM. If I was Ted, I think I would have broke and just doen what Favre wanted. I don't think my convictions on running a team are nearly as strong as Thompsons though. If I was a part of building teams for 15 years and I knew what I wanted to do; I might say differently but damn, Thompson easily could have done just what Sherman did, failed and then been fired for trying.

[retailguy]

I get it. So those guys were the oranges?

Does that make Pickett, Woodson and Manual the apples?

Yes it does. Now, you tell me, how much NEGOTIATION went on in those deals? I remember some "speculation" going on about Tampa Bay, but NEVER culminated in a contract offer. I remember some "speculation" going on regarding the Rams wanting Pickett back, but NEVER culminated in a contract offer. I also remember Ted jumping on Manuel as the "second coming of Christ" and we see quite clearly how well that worked out...

This proves your point, exactly how? :P

[PackerBlues]

I get it. So those guys were the oranges?

Does that make Pickett, Woodson and Manual the apples?

Let me point out to the "blind man" .......those guys all play defense......not offense.