Favre: "I never wanted to be traded."

[packinpatland]

Letting your emotions get the better of you doesn't necessarily mean you were wrong to be upset. It just says your reaction was inappropriate. I still want to know more about what Thompson did or didn't do with regards to that trade for Moss. I'm left with more questions than answers right now.

Chances are we will never know for sure. Today I heard an interview with Bob Harlan. What I understood him to say was:

The Packers tried hard to get Moss.
They made an offer they thought would do it.
They were not responded to, nor did they know they had no deal until hearing about the NE deal after the fact on TV.
Consequently, they never had the chance to respond to the NE offer.

Soooooo, the frustration should be vented at the Moss, Al Davis......and always............Bellicheck.

I have absolutely no idea. I'm just relating what Harlan said. For all I know he could have been making up a huge story just for the media, or he could have been telling the absolute truth. I really don't know, or care!

My observation was exactly as stated. WHY, really, why is no one venting on those 'other' guys?

[mraynrand]

Re: Favre: "I never wanted to be traded."

For God's sake! Stop it! Let it go!

But.... what will we talk about until September?

There's always Shermy sleepin at the combine.

:P

Where's the pic?

[woodbuck27]

But is Favre putting his goals (immediately winning) ahead of the GMs goals (3 season of .500 just for the sake of argument) to win substantially more and over a longer period of time a good thing?

If this is what the difference is, and I think its likely that it is, should there be a parting of the ways?

I think Thompson is honest as much as possible. I think injuries killed a team that had shed talent and salary in the offseason before 2005. But I doubt 4-12 was part of the plan. I think three seasons near .500 would be a fair estimate.

But there are very few GMs who use the word rebuilding anymore at the behest of the marketing dept. Even the Brewers stayed away from it as they were doing it.

Woodbuck, if Favre can play until 2010 (I assume that's when the contract runs out) then why the yearly will I or won't I retire?

Had he committed to playing out the contract, wouldn't the organizational appoach looked a little different?

The other thing I'm seeing is that Brett Favre can play in Green Bay as long as he wants through 2010 before he decides to retire. It's obvious to me that his committment as always is 100% there.He'll arrive in Green Bay and do all he can to help us secure wins.

pbmax:

Brett Favre wants to feel wanted and valued in Green Bay. He wants to feel that he is worth the money he is paid.

He is one of the most competitive PRO athletes I have ever seen. He is all about winning.

When he see's the results we all have experienced with the Packers over the past two seasons and before that too. He can't help but be disappointed. Like any responsible person he questions his real value and place with the team given his goals.

The main goal is to win.

When he see's his teams agenda obviously in a re-build mode and the GM can't even be honest enought to admit that (which is obvious) then how can he trust TT, given his (Favre's) deemed values,goals and place on the Packers?

Woahh !

All Favre has said is that he was very annoid that TT didn't secure Randy Moss. I believe we will some day find out that Brett Favre was somehow very active in arriving just at this result.

Favre felt that acquiring Moss would go a long way towords really making us more competitive.The cost to acquire Moss wasn't going to hurt TT as Favre was subsidizing his one year deal.

Now,we learn that TT wanted (might have wanted) Moss to ink a two year deal to compensate giving up a fifth round draft pick. That was what made all the difference in allowing the Pat's ack in?

NO way should Favre be traded or have to retire over this matter.

That's pure nonsense.

[mraynrand]

The Right Man - excerpts from a September 7, 2001 Appleton Post Crescent Newspaper column by Mike Sherman, Coach of the Green Bay Packers.


bullet "I do believe that some jobs are too big for some men, but I believe that no job is too big for the right man!"

bullet "To me, the right man is someone who can make good, solid decisions based on facts."

bullet The right man is also someone who trusts his instincts regarding the character of people."

bullet "The right man must be able to admit mistakes and have the ability to fix them and move on."

bullet "He must be humble enough to heap praise on others during times of success while courageous enough to accept the blame during times of defeat."

bullet "Finally, the right man for this job must be able to withstand the scrutiny and criticism that will undoubtedly occur and not let it detract him from his vision of success."

bullet "In order to do all this, he must have both his feet firmly planted on a strong foundation that is supported by his faith, his family and the morals and principals he knows are right."

[packinpatland]

The Right Man - excerpts from a September 7, 2001 Appleton Post Crescent Newspaper column by Mike Sherman, Coach of the Green Bay Packers.


bullet "I do believe that some jobs are too big for some men, but I believe that no job is too big for the right man!"

bullet "To me, the right man is someone who can make good, solid decisions based on facts."

bullet The right man is also someone who trusts his instincts regarding the character of people."

bullet "The right man must be able to admit mistakes and have the ability to fix them and move on."

bullet "He must be humble enough to heap praise on others during times of success while courageous enough to accept the blame during times of defeat."

bullet "Finally, the right man for this job must be able to withstand the scrutiny and criticism that will undoubtedly occur and not let it detract him from his vision of success."

bullet "In order to do all this, he must have both his feet firmly planted on a strong foundation that is supported by his faith, his family and the morals and principals he knows are right."

These sound a tad Lombardi-like. ......................that's not a bad thing.

[Rastak]

Well, I not surprised it is much gnashing of teeth over nothing. The first 30 minutes after the trade story broke I was "Whoa, what's this" but after thinking about it and listening to the debate here I came to the same conclusion many here did, he just spouted off cause he was pissed. Man, I know the Vikings have endless drama and yours is a bit less, oh how do I say it, hmmmm, words fail me. Anyway, Favre seems to supply you guys with plenty to talk about.