I spoke with Bob Harlan today. INTERESTING.

[Fritz]

Earlier reports - prior to the draft reports - stated that Moss would renegotiate only with NE; other interested parties would have to pay the full salary


This is the part I don't buy at all

We also had a window to close the deal

I'm not sure if we should have (although you know my view), but I undoubtedly feel we could have at a reduced rate for Moss

Again, I never expected Moss, especially when I heard another team was interested.

My guess is Oakland had been dicking around what they perceived to be GB's lowballing for a couple months and had no issues sending him to NE. On that last part I have no evidence.

Bretsky, here's an interview question from the NE media to Moss; note in his reply he suggests that he was willing to renegotiate with NE and does not deny the suggestion in the question that, had he gone elsewhere, he would not have been willing to renegogiate. I believe this answers the question about where Moss wanted to be:

Q: We're hearing that you were willing to renegotiate your deal to come here and you may have been less willing to do that other places. If that's truth, why is that?

RM: Like I said, [the Patriots] have a massive reputation of what they stand for, and that's winning. Through the course of my career and the course of my life of playing sports, I've always tried to be a winner and go out there and compete. And by me having a chance to play with an organization [like the Patriots] with the coaching staff, with Mr. [Robert] Kraft as the owner, and the players they have in position, I didn't think that money was a big factor to me. I think over the course of my career, I've made a lot of money, and I still have money in the bank, so by me coming to an organization like the New England Patriots, why would money be a factor? I know I have to get paid something, but to have the numbers that I was going to receive, I knew something had to be done with my contract, and I didn't have a problem with it.

[Bretsky]

I don't think there is a doubt he wanted to go to NE; if you want to be close to winning a title this is a pretty easy choice.

[GrnBay007]

RM: Like I said, [the Patriots] have a massive reputation of what they stand for, and that's winning.

Wonder when the Packers lost that reputation.

[woodbuck27]

We lost out on Moss but I agree with bretsky that we could have had him. We would have had to out do their deal but we could have had him and the risk would have been worth it. TT low balled him, plain and simple. Moss has potential bad knees (according to Oakland who said he wouldn't get his knee checked), he is a bad guy in relation to the normal athlete and he's old. That said, there is potential to be a true SUPERSTUD and for a few mil when you have too much to spend it's worth a risk. I acctually think there is a good chance that he flops but even if he does, I still think it was worth a 3rd round pick and a couple million dollars and I feel that we could have had that if we were willing to outbid NE.

Hey.

I agree with YOU JustinHarrell .

[Bretsky]

Re: I spoke with Bob Harlan today. INTERESTING.

As I posted before, I did call John Jones and Bob Harlan.

Bob Harlan called me back this morning on my cell phone. Now before you call my a liar, call Harlan yourself. He WILL call you back. He is very interested in what the fans have to say. I am NO ONE SPECIAL (it hurts to admit :P ) and I am not an insider like Arrigo. Hee hee.

Anyway, I told Harlan how disappointed I was about what Brett said. Harlan told me he was shocked by the report and that Brett was going to release a statement later in the day (which he did) about he status in GB. I asked Harlan what he expected Favre to say. Harlan said "that he doesnt want to be traded."

I told Harlan that TT has not surrounded Brett with the talent on O that he deserves and feel that TT is wasting Brett's last few seasons. Harlan said the offseason is not over yet and they will still add players to the team. Harlan said fans had the same reaction last season and then the Packers got Charles Woodson and the team improved. He also stated that they had a very strong draft in 2006 and the 2007 draft class can't be judged by fans yet.

I then asked Harlan about Randy Moss. Now this part shocked me. Harlan was very open and honest about the situation. Harlan told me he went to bed on Sat. night BELIEVING that Randy Moss was going to be a Packer. Harlan said they (the Packers) found out that Moss was a Patriot when they turned on the TV on Sun. morning. Harlan said Moss' agent (who is NOT Bus Cook) NEVER gave the Packers a call after New England jumped in with the 4th round pick and the new deal for Moss. Harlan said it happens all the time and it is very annoying. Harlan told me he wished Moss' agent would have given the Packers a chance to match New Englands offer. Harlan went on to say that the Packers had a deal to get Moss for a 5th round pick and never offered higher because they didnt know they had to. Thus, they never offered one of their 3rd round picks.

I ended the conversation by saying "Mr. Harlan, I can't imagine the Green Bay Packers with out Brett Favre." Harlan told me "either can I." I then said "Would you ever trade Brett?" Harlan said "absolutely not!"

So there you go. It isnt anything breaking but it is interesting. I understand Harlan is on the way out but he still holds some power up in GB.

If you don't believe me, call him yourself. He'll tell you the same thing.

THIS THREAD IS A MUST READ FOR THOSE OF YOU WHO HAVE NOT

HEY, HARLAN SAID WE WILL SIGN MORE; WHERE ARE THEY ???

[the_idle_threat]

HEY, HARLAN SAID WE WILL SIGN MORE; WHERE ARE THEY ???

Call him and ask.

[gbpackfan]

Re: I spoke with Bob Harlan today. INTERESTING.

As I posted before, I did call John Jones and Bob Harlan.

Bob Harlan called me back this morning on my cell phone. Now before you call my a liar, call Harlan yourself. He WILL call you back. He is very interested in what the fans have to say. I am NO ONE SPECIAL (it hurts to admit :P ) and I am not an insider like Arrigo. Hee hee.

Anyway, I told Harlan how disappointed I was about what Brett said. Harlan told me he was shocked by the report and that Brett was going to release a statement later in the day (which he did) about he status in GB. I asked Harlan what he expected Favre to say. Harlan said "that he doesnt want to be traded."

I told Harlan that TT has not surrounded Brett with the talent on O that he deserves and feel that TT is wasting Brett's last few seasons. Harlan said the offseason is not over yet and they will still add players to the team. Harlan said fans had the same reaction last season and then the Packers got Charles Woodson and the team improved. He also stated that they had a very strong draft in 2006 and the 2007 draft class can't be judged by fans yet.

I then asked Harlan about Randy Moss. Now this part shocked me. Harlan was very open and honest about the situation. Harlan told me he went to bed on Sat. night BELIEVING that Randy Moss was going to be a Packer. Harlan said they (the Packers) found out that Moss was a Patriot when they turned on the TV on Sun. morning. Harlan said Moss' agent (who is NOT Bus Cook) NEVER gave the Packers a call after New England jumped in with the 4th round pick and the new deal for Moss. Harlan said it happens all the time and it is very annoying. Harlan told me he wished Moss' agent would have given the Packers a chance to match New Englands offer. Harlan went on to say that the Packers had a deal to get Moss for a 5th round pick and never offered higher because they didnt know they had to. Thus, they never offered one of their 3rd round picks.

I ended the conversation by saying "Mr. Harlan, I can't imagine the Green Bay Packers with out Brett Favre." Harlan told me "either can I." I then said "Would you ever trade Brett?" Harlan said "absolutely not!"

So there you go. It isnt anything breaking but it is interesting. I understand Harlan is on the way out but he still holds some power up in GB.

If you don't believe me, call him yourself. He'll tell you the same thing.

THIS THREAD IS A MUST READ FOR THOSE OF YOU WHO HAVE NOT

HEY, HARLAN SAID WE WILL SIGN MORE; WHERE ARE THEY ???

Good question Bretsky. But rest easy, TT will sign at least one cast off before the season starts.

[Jerry Tagge]

I called Bob Harlan today and he said he already has a subscription to the Green Bay Press-Gazette.