The Soap Opera That Is Brett Favre ------The Real Story

[Merlin]

Most players don't bring up retirement until they are ready to retire. Not when they are just pondering about it.

I think you need to find the "quote" where Favre started all the retirement talk back in 2000-2001. Favre responded to a question during an interview when asked whether or not he has thought about retirement yet. The media took it and ran with it and has been constantly bombarding him with the question since. If the media wouldn't have spun the shit into a soap opera, I doubt anything Favre has done since would have mattered. When he came back in 2005, it was after an embarrassing playoff loss to the Vikings. It wouldn't have mattered what he would have said to the media, it was all about retirement. In 2006, same thing. This year was about the only year that was ever in question because of how he ended his last game. Other then that, the media, not Favre has been keeping the whole thing going.

As far as any respect for 3T in regards to the issue, he doesn't want Favre but can't get rid of him without pissing everyone off. From day one he has done his best to make Favre retire. Favre knows this as does any life form with a pulse. He took Aaron Rodgers not because he wasn't sure on Favre but because he has a "plan" and it doesn't include Favre. Problem is, Favre has screwed up his "plan" so now it's a chess game to see who blinks first.

If 3T believes "we don't talk about those things", then why did 3T feed the media any Favre retirement crap?

If Favre would have just kept playing football, and not ping pong with the retirement chit chat, Rodgers isn't a Packer. And Ted would have drafted accordingly. Why is it so hard for some of you do admit Favre has dug his own grave with his grit eatin' pie hole.

Its hard to admit for those people because in their eyes, Favre can do no wrong. At the same time, rationalizing it by saying that TT doesn't want Favre(which is a moronic statement in and of itself) it also feeds their hatred of TT. Favre started this whole mess by answering the first retirement question. If he had simply answered, "I am still playing football and when I decide to retire, I will let you know. Thats the last question I will take on that subject.", he would have stopped the media dead in its tracks.

Time to newk two tools at once:

Fact: Favre did keep playing football.
Fact: Favre didn't bring up the retirement talk, the media won't let it go.
Fact: You aren't Favre so all of your "Favre should have said this" is nothing but 20/20 hindsight. At the time he probably thought the comment was innocent enough.
Fact: 3T is not well liked and one could call your support of 3T "moronic".
Fact: Calling what someone says "moronic" doesn't mean they are wrong. All it means is that you really have no ammunition to support your argument otherwise so you resort to name calling. Nice schoolyard bs.

[cpk1994]

Most players don't bring up retirement until they are ready to retire. Not when they are just pondering about it.

I think you need to find the "quote" where Favre started all the retirement talk back in 2000-2001. Favre responded to a question during an interview when asked whether or not he has thought about retirement yet. The media took it and ran with it and has been constantly bombarding him with the question since. If the media wouldn't have spun the shit into a soap opera, I doubt anything Favre has done since would have mattered. When he came back in 2005, it was after an embarrassing playoff loss to the Vikings. It wouldn't have mattered what he would have said to the media, it was all about retirement. In 2006, same thing. This year was about the only year that was ever in question because of how he ended his last game. Other then that, the media, not Favre has been keeping the whole thing going.

As far as any respect for 3T in regards to the issue, he doesn't want Favre but can't get rid of him without pissing everyone off. From day one he has done his best to make Favre retire. Favre knows this as does any life form with a pulse. He took Aaron Rodgers not because he wasn't sure on Favre but because he has a "plan" and it doesn't include Favre. Problem is, Favre has screwed up his "plan" so now it's a chess game to see who blinks first.

If 3T believes "we don't talk about those things", then why did 3T feed the media any Favre retirement crap?

If Favre would have just kept playing football, and not ping pong with the retirement chit chat, Rodgers isn't a Packer. And Ted would have drafted accordingly. Why is it so hard for some of you do admit Favre has dug his own grave with his grit eatin' pie hole.

Its hard to admit for those people because in their eyes, Favre can do no wrong. At the same time, rationalizing it by saying that TT doesn't want Favre(which is a moronic statement in and of itself) it also feeds their hatred of TT. Favre started this whole mess by answering the first retirement question. If he had simply answered, "I am still playing football and when I decide to retire, I will let you know. Thats the last question I will take on that subject.", he would have stopped the media dead in its tracks.

Time to newk two tools at once:

Fact: Favre did keep playing football.
Fact: Favre didn't bring up the retirement talk, the media won't let it go.
Fact: You aren't Favre so all of your "Favre should have said this" is nothing but 20/20 hindsight. At the time he probably thought the comment was innocent enough.
Fact: 3T is not well liked and one could call your support of 3T "moronic".
Fact: Calling what someone says "moronic" doesn't mean they are wrong. All it means is that you really have no ammunition to support your argument otherwise so you resort to name calling. Nice schoolyard bs.

You claim I have no ammunition when you barely bring any to the table yourself?
First, I want to see your proof that TT doesn't want Favre. Go ahead. SHow me. Find me a quote. 'Im waiting. Second, not counting the people on this board, show me proof that TT is not well liked. I think the best you'll come up with is an approval rating at about 50%. Doesn't mean not well liked. While I wait for something you'll never come up with, I'll give you some other facts:

Fact: Brett could have stopped the retirement talk at any time. He didn't until last year.

Fact: Chris Mortensen went down to Mississippi to interview Favre about Super Bowl XL, and Brett turned it into an interview about his retirement decision. Mort was shocked because he hadn't even asked about it and never intended to. But I guess its the media that can't let it go huh?

Fact: I don't personally care for TT. But unlike you, I am willing to give him a chance and will rant against him when I feel he did something wrong instead of giving him no credit and turing everything he does into another reason that he should be fired.

Fact: I like Favre, but unlike you I don't worship him or believe he can do no wrong and question anybody who tries to.

It is very ironic that you call out "schoolyyard BS" for name calling when you started off by calling me a "tool". I think the word to describe you would be "hypocritcal".

[packinpatland]

Starting to sound abit too much like that 'other' forum around here.

[cpk1994]

Starting to sound abit too much like that 'other' forum around here.

Sorry, forgot to take my Prozac today.

[woodbuck27]

"I'm fine with Ted. There's probably been games or plays that he hasn't really agreed with the things that I've done, but I don't see him on the bus after the game, he won't speak to me. You go on; you move forward. I'm not here to judge the way he runs this team, and I know he's probably caught a lot of heat. Ted and I go way back--from day one. And he has a plan. That's what he's paid to do and I'm paid to lead this team on the field. I mean, we're fine. Once again, I don't have to agree with everything he does, he doesn't have to agree with some of the things I do. But we're fine...it's a non-issue" --Brett Favre

Doesn't sound like animosity to me somehow...

You would have made a fine lawyer.

[son of a vic]

Starting to sound abit too much like that 'other' forum around here.

Sounds like a healthy debate to me. No one's mother's name has been defamed, and nobody has played the "Kool-aid Kard".


God bless America!

[Jimx29]

Time to newk two tools at once:.............................Fact: Calling what someone says "moronic" doesn't mean they are wrong. All it means is that you really have no ammunition to support your argument otherwise so you resort to name calling. Nice schoolyard bs.

And "Newking two tools"/fellow members is........

[son of a vic]

the dates have changed but the story remains the same.

[twoseven]

But when Terrel Owens says what's on his mind, that makes him a cancer.

That's because he's an idiot.

Stop picking on TO. He's just very sensitive and misunderstood. It's unfair, that's my teammate..

http://youtube.com/watch?v=PNO6On7cK1M