You gotta go deep in the NFL - Packers?

[Zool]

Why does everyone seem to think that if you like what TT is doing, then you must necessarily hate Sherman, or if you support anything Sherman ever did then you hate TT? Would it be terrible to see the differences between them and what each brought to the table?

Because there are no shades of gray?

[woodbuck27]

Welcome Fred's Slacks.

[cheesner]

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Being a GM of an NFL team isn't exactly Rocket Science.He has to be committed daily to improving his roster across the board. Always looking for the upgrade at any position.

That team must have an excellent Scouting Dept. in place, to enable success through recruitment.

Upgrading a position does not necessarily make your team better. Many of the players who would have been upgrades in FA this season, would not have made the Packers a better team.

For example, we could have signed DB Nate Clements at $7.5M to be our #3 CB. Clearly a big upgrade over last season. This would improve our nickel defense package. Reducing our cap by that much will prevent us from resigning a perhaps more important emerging player next year, or going after a more significant FA that will help out far more than a nickel back. I know cap will go up next year and Favre retiring will create even more cap space - but this is a zero sum game. There is a finite amount of money, and spending it to improve your team the most is a very complicated economic decision.

[CaliforniaCheez]

Re: You gotta go deep in the NFL - Packers?

http://www.nfl.com/news/story/10193430

You gotta go deep in this league

By Pat Kirwan
NFL.com Senior Analyst


(May 23, 2007) -- NFL teams have May thru July to fortify the back end of their rosters, and there's no time to lose. As any NFL fan knows, the 16-game season is a war of attrition. It doesn't take long for teams to call on their roster depth to move forward. Where would the Eagles have been in 2006 if Jeff Garcia wasn't on the roster? Garcia, a former starting QB who bounced around the league in recent years, was grabbed up by a smart Philadelphia franchise and he was good enough to keep the team on its winning path.


The Broncos can weather injuries at tight end, thanks to Stephen Alexander.

The Eagles had one of my very best preseason depth charts headed into 2006 and will be good again in 2007. On the other hand, for a number of teams the depth on the roster isn't good enough to keep the winning going when a few choice starters go down with injury.

Which clubs lead the way in the roster depth issue?

Well, a list of critical questions should lead you to understand if your favorite team is ready for the injuries and holdouts that will start to mount up during organized team activities. For example, the Broncos lost second-year tight end Tony Scheffler for a few months with a broken foot, but their roster depth with Daniel Graham and Stephen Alexander makes the loss less significant than it could have been.

You would hope your team has an answer for all of these questions, but not even the best teams can check off all of the critical components to the depth issue. Keep in mind these players need the experience, talent or both to perform without a lot of practice time until they are called upon. (There's a 2006 example behind each depth question).

OFFENSIVE QUESTIONS

1. An experienced backup quarterback who can win more than half the games he may have to start. (Jeff Garcia)
2. A running back who can come off the bench and deliver 1,000 yards. (Ladell Betts)
3. A third wide receiver who can step up to a starter's spot and deliver five to six receptions a game. (Reche Caldwell)
4. A swing tackle who can stop a pass rush on either the left or right side. (Roman Oben )
5. An inside lineman who can play center or guard ... or at least give the line coach the flexibility to change the combination inside. (Floyd Womack)
6. A second tight end who does not reduce the offensive package. (Stephen Alexander)

DEFENSIVE QUESTIONS

1. A third defensive end who can rush the passer. (Trent Cole)
2. A third defensive tackle who can create a rotation inside to keep the D-line fresh. (Alfonso Boone)
3. At least two backup linebackers with big contributions on special teams. (Larry Izzo )
4. A third corner to build a nickel defense and start when needed. (Philip Buchanon)
5. A third safety to build a dime defense and be versatile enough to play strong or free safety in a pinch. (Chris Harris )

When I look at roster depth, I start with the backup quarterback before any other position. With that in mind, only half the league really has a backup QB with a chance to keep the winning happening.

After one question, the league is cut in half. For example, the Colts and Patriots would really struggle if they lost their franchise signal-callers. Neither team has a "Jeff Garcia" backing up the starter.

After the quarterback issue is solved, it's on to backup running back.

Is there a 1,000-yard rusher on the bench waiting to take over? Ladell Betts did it for Washington and it looks like Michael Turner would keep the Chargers rolling along -- which is the reason A.J. Smith kept him even though some team apparently offered a first-round pick for him.

After the running back question, the depth issue reduced the league to 11 teams.


The Redskins have some outstanding depth at running back with Ladell Betts.

A swing offensive tackle, a guard/center, a third wide receiver, and a second tight end are all required offensive players for any team thinking about playing meaningful games in December and January.

The Eagles, Bears, Redskins and Rams look pretty good when the offensive questions are asked and answered.

After the offensive depth is addressed, it's on to the defense where team need a third defensive end with specialty pass rush skills, a third defensive tackle to keep the rotation going, two backup linebackers who are core players on special teams, a nickel corner and a dime safety.

Naturally, some teams look better prepared to withstand the rigors of an NFL season if the defensive depth is challenged

Once again, the Eagles are high on the list and are joined by the Cowboys, Buccaneers, Steelers and Patriots.

Philadelphia still has depth questions on the back end of its defense, but look at this list of nonstarters on its roster: Quarterbacks Kelly Holcomb and A.J. Feeley; running backs Correll Buckhalter and Tony Hunt, tight end Matt Schobel; offensive tackle Winston Justice; guard Max Jean-Gilles; and wide receiver Greg Lewis. That is quality depth.

A team like the Redskins may be sitting in the middle of the pack in the NFC, but if injuries become a critical factor around the league, Washington has a very good chance of surviving.

Quarterback Mark Brunell, running back Ladell Betts, wide receiver Antwaan Randle El, offensive tackle Jason Fabini, guard/center Ross Tucker, defensive end Renaldo Wynn, defensive tackle Joe Salave'a, cornerback Fred Smoot, safety Pierson Prioleau and linebacker Lemar Marshall make up an impressive group of nonstarters on the team's roster.

Comment woodbuck27:

Now do y'all see just the real shape our team is in? What if we lose Brett Favre or Donald Driver?

How do we stand up at RB?

How do we stand up at TE?

Do we have the proven depth at LBer and in our secondary?

I believe we are like the hunter that enters the woods in need of food and armed with a rifle and only one bullet.

NOT in good shape with our starters and depth?

I think we all sweat the offseason too much because too little is going on.
I wonder if Pat Kirwan still believes in the teams mentioned? Writers like names they know. Ted Thompson likes talent.

[HarveyWallbangers]

Re: You gotta go deep in the NFL - Packers?

Ironically, we don't look so bad if you look at this.

1. An experienced backup quarterback who can win more than half the games he may have to start. (Jeff Garcia)

ARod.

2. A running back who can come off the bench and deliver 1,000 yards. (Ladell Betts)

We don't have a starter that can deliver 1000 yards.

3. A third wide receiver who can step up to a starter's spot and deliver five to six receptions a game. (Reche Caldwell)

James Jones, Koren Robinson, AND Ruvell Martin.

4. A swing tackle who can stop a pass rush on either the left or right side. (Roman Oben )

We have pass blocking depth at LT and RT with the versatility of Colledge and Moll.

5. An inside lineman who can play center or guard ... or at least give the line coach the flexibility to change the combination inside. (Floyd Womack)

Jason Spitz.

6. A second tight end who does not reduce the offensive package. (Stephen Alexander)

Bubba was having a good year--until he got hurt.

1. A third defensive end who can rush the passer. (Trent Cole)

KGB.

2. A third defensive tackle who can create a rotation inside to keep the D-line fresh. (Alfonso Boone)

Corey Williams.

3. At least two backup linebackers with big contributions on special teams. (Larry Izzo )

Tracy White and Desmond Bishop are good special teams players.

4. A third corner to build a nickel defense and start when needed. (Philip Buchanon)

Probably not, but Bush was solid the first few games, had a rough couple of games, and hasn't been torched the last few games.

5. A third safety to build a dime defense and be versatile enough to play strong or free safety in a pinch. (Chris Harris )

Aaron Rouse?

[Brohm]

We don't use a dime really. Sanders keeps Barnett and Hawk on passing downs. A stud nickle developing into a future starter would be nice.

Rouse would be a good rover in a dime though.