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  • Deputy Nutz
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    The Packers are once again going to have a dozen picks in the draft.

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  • Fosco33
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    Originally posted by CyclonePackFan
    With pick #185 we select:

    Tyrone Culver DB Fresno St.
    Culver has a tremendous football IQ. He is an intelligent player and is great in run support. However, he lacks speed and trailed on too many plays. He has good size, but will probably be nothing more than a special teams player at the next level.

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  • Homer Jay
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    Back to rivals.com. Frank Coyle says in this talented tackle class he will probably slide into the second day where he will be a definite steal, and is capable of being a quality starter. Johnny Jolly

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  • Deputy Nutz
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    Anyone have anything on this guy?

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  • Tarlam!
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    Tyrone Culver
    Height: 6-1 | Weight: 195 | 40-Time: 4.56

    Official Bio

    Strengths:
    Pretty good athlete...Physical and will help versus the run...A playmaker who has a knack for coming through in the clutch...Very smart both on and off the field...A hard worker with premier intangibles...A very consistent and reliable performer.

    Weaknesses:
    Does not have great timed speed...Instincts are below average...Is built more like a cornerback...Does not have fluid hips and is slow out of his breaks...Can be too conservative at times...Range is a bit limited...Might not have a very big upside.

    Notes:
    Wants to go to dental school...Probably doesn't have all the physical tools and measurables you look for in a prospect...The type who does everything well but nothing great...Might never be a star but could be a solid backup at the pro level.

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  • FritzDontBlitz
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    tyrone culver db fresno state at 185

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  • CyclonePackFan
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    With pick #185 we select:

    Tyrone Culver DB Fresno St.

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  • Tarlam!
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    From his crique, ya gotta think Jim Bates coulda turned this guy into a wrecking machine...

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  • Tarlam!
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    Originally posted by Fosco33
    tarlam beat me to it
    Oh BABY!

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  • CyclonePackFan
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    Johnny Jolly
    Height: 6-3
    Weight: 318
    40 Speed: 5.44*
    Position: Defensive Tackle
    College: Texas A&M

    SUMMARY

    Jolly was a tough player to fairly evaluate because despite his natural tools, he does not finish and make plays that he gets close enough to on a regular basis. He does a good job of bending his knees and playing with leverage, which allows him to hold his ground at the point of attack on runs at him, but he does not shed the blocker quickly enough to make the play and too often he is tied up right as the ball carrier runs right by him. He does a good job of getting off the ball and into the backfield to disrupt plays, but he does not finish and make the play often enough. Overall, Jolly has all the physical tools to be a good starting defensive tackle in the NFL, for a 3-4 or 4-3 defense, but will need to use his hands better to take on and shed blockers. Additionally, he will need to play with that aggressive, attacking style much more in order to produce at the level he is physically capable of. I believe that Jolly will be drafted later than he is evaluated here, but given a season or two as a backup (possibly even on the practice squad), he can become a good backup defensive tackle who can do a solid job of spot starting when needed.

    STRONG POINTS

    Jolly is a good athlete with the quick feet, size and strength that are ideal for a strong defensive tackle at the point of attack. He does a good job of staying focused to burst off the ball at the snap and can shoot gaps to get into the backfield consistently. His quickness off the ball also combine with his strength to let him get on top of the offensive line fast and he can jolt his man backwards to disrupt the quarterback. His quickness, hand use and instincts help him to get started towards the ball quickly on inside runs, where he can keep the blocker on his shoulder and can chase plays down between the offensive tackles.

    WEAKNESSES

    Despite good size and measureables, Jolly looks soft and fleshy on film, which is cause for concern about his work ethic off the field. He has the ability to be a productive player vs. the run and the pass, but more often than not, he is around and disrupting the play without actually making the play. He does not shed blocks well once they get a hold of him -- runners go right by him when he is tied up too often. He does not have a closing burst to finish plays he should -- if the play is outside the tackles, he lacks the ability to get there in time to make the tackle.

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  • Scott Campbell
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    SUNDAY, April 30, 2006, 2:06 p.m.

    By Cliff Christl
    Clements on Martin

    Tom Clements, quarterbacks coach of the Packers, said he liked Ingle Martin's size (6-2, 224), athletic ability, mechanics, arm strength and anticipation. "He has a lot of tools to work with," said Clements.

    Clements also said Martin's arm proved to be one of the stronger ones at the combine workouts, where it was checked by a radar gun.

    "I think he has a strong enough arm to make all the throws that are required of him," said Clements.

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  • outflow
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    Originally posted by Tarlam!
    Johnny Jolly

    Weaknesses:
    Does not have great speed or quickness...Is not very mobile and lacks range...Is not much of a pass rusher...Struggles to find the ball...Needs to stay low and play with better leverage...Might not have a whole lot of upside for the next level.
    Ok so why pick the guy? I'm thinking whoever wrote this up wouldn't have.

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  • Fosco33
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    tarlam beat me to it

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  • CyclonePackFan
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    Johnny Jolly, Texas A&M (6-3¼, 317, 5.42)
    Jolly did not have a complete workout at the Combine. He recorded no lifts or shuttles. He ran his two 40s in 5.41 and 5.43 and notched an 8-foot-7 long jump. He did not work out at the Texas A&M Pro Day because of a bad ankle. He was a three-year starter at A&M. He looks strong and has toughness.

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  • Tarlam!
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    Johnny Jolly
    Height: 6-3 1/4 | Weight: 317 | 40-Time: 5.43

    Official Bio

    Strengths:
    Gets a good push in the middle...Very strong and powerful...Versatile and could play multiple positions...Competitive and intense...Hard worker and leader...Will beat blockers & collapse the pocket...Three-year starter with lots of experience.

    Weaknesses:
    Does not have great speed or quickness...Is not very mobile and lacks range...Is not much of a pass rusher...Struggles to find the ball...Needs to stay low and play with better leverage...Might not have a whole lot of upside for the next level.

    Notes:
    Maybe a 3-4 defensive end?...Is not very flashy and doesn't stand out in any one area but does everything well...Brings great intangibles to the table...The type who might never be a star but could contribute as a pro in the right situation.

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